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    First former CNBC broadcaster Dylan Ratigan, now CNBC editor and gadfly Charlie Gasparino.

    What next? Bartiromo blasting Blankfein [now that's something I'd tune in to watch...].

    But it's a bit late for them to be blowing the whistle now, methinks.

    From the WSJ:


    NOVEMBER 5, 2009, 7:07 P.M. ET
    Three Decades of Subsidized Risk

    There's a reason Dick Fuld didn't believe Lehman would be allowed to fail.

    By CHARLES GASPARINO

    I recently sat down with legendary investor Ted Forstmann to discuss why, on the one-year anniversary of the financial meltdown, the press has largely ignored the role of government in creating the meltdown—and possibly setting the stage for another one—by allowing Wall Street to borrow cheaply and easily during the past three decades.

    "I guess reporters think writing about greedy investment bankers is more interesting," Mr. Forstmann laughed.

    Mr. Forstmann knows a thing or two about greedy investment bankers: He's been calling them on the carpet for years, most famously during the 1980s when he fulminated against the excesses of the junk-bond era. He also knows that blaming banking greed alone can't by itself explain the financial tsunami that tore the markets apart last year and left the banking system and the economy in tatters.

    The greed merchants needed a co-conspirator, Mr. Forstmann argues, and that co-conspirator is and was the United States government.

    "They're always there waiting to hand out free money," he said. "They just throw money at the problem every time Wall Street gets in trouble. It starts out when they have a cold and it builds until the risk-taking leads to cancer."

    Mr. Forstmann's point shouldn't be taken lightly. Not by the press, nor by policy makers in Washington. But so far it has been, and the easy money is flowing like never before.

    Interest rates are close to zero; in effect the Federal Reserve is subsidizing the risk-taking and bond trading that has allowed Goldman Sachs to produce billions in profits and that infamous $16 billion bonus pool (analysts say it could grow to as high as $20 billion). The Treasury has lent banks money, guaranteed Wall Street's debt and declared every firm to be a commercial bank, from Citigroup with close to $1 trillion in U.S. deposits, to Morgan Stanley with close to zero. They are all "too big to fail" and so free to trade as they please—on the taxpayer dime.

    The conventional wisdom as perpetuated in the media is that these bailout mechanisms are unique, designed to ameliorate a once-in-a-lifetime financial "perfect storm." They are unique, but only in size. A quick look back at the past three decades will demonstrate what Mr. Forstmann meant when he said the government has been ready to hand out free money nearly every time risk-taking led to losses...
    Last edited by GRG55; November 06, 2009, 12:21 AM.

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    Re: Bubblevision Begins to Break Ranks...

    will the cancer be terminal, or will the CON-gress get it's collective act together and do something to save the republic?

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    • #3
      Re: Bubblevision Begins to Break Ranks...

      Originally posted by doom&gloom View Post
      will the cancer be terminal, or will the CON-gress get it's collective act together and do something to save the republic?
      Congress isn't going to save your Republic...the people will...

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        Re: Bubblevision Begins to Break Ranks...

        Originally posted by GRG55
        Congress isn't going to save your Republic...the people will...
        Given the general lack of understanding of what is going on plus a complete lack of (good) leadership, I think the possibility of a turnaround at this juncture is nil.

        Certainly this might change but the forces which will break the 2 party FIRE and defense puppet system are the same ones which will just as likely (or more) lead to a new proto-fascist rising (i.e. Hitler or Mussolini).

        Although to be objective the proto-fascist might instead be a proto-communist platformed on the new secular religion... :rolleyes:

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          Re: Bubblevision Begins to Break Ranks...

          Originally posted by c1ue View Post
          Given the general lack of understanding of what is going on plus a complete lack of (good) leadership, I think the possibility of a turnaround at this juncture is nil.

          Certainly this might change but the forces which will break the 2 party FIRE and defense puppet system are the same ones which will just as likely (or more) lead to a new proto-fascist rising (i.e. Hitler or Mussolini).

          Although to be objective the proto-fascist might instead be a proto-communist platformed on the new secular religion... :rolleyes:
          Time passes and things are a'changing...;)

          In February 2003, US Secretary of State Colin Powell presented to the UN Security Council the Bush Administration's case for war in Iraq. Anyone who watched the broadcast could see from Powell's body language that he didn't have much conviction in what he was saying. At the time he struck me as a loyal soldier just trying to do his duty.

          In March 2003, at the eve of the Second Gulf War, I got my wife out of the Persian Gulf and sent her to stay with my brother and sister-in-law in Seattle. When I came to visit about a month after the war started their neighbourhood was filled with lawn signs and bumper stickers in support of US troops.

          By the summer of 2005 we had the spectacle of Cindy Sheehan camping out at Crawford:
          "If Zarqawi and bin Laden gain control of Iraq, they would create a new training ground for future terrorist attacks," Bush said. "They'd seize oil fields to fund their ambitions. They could recruit more terrorists by claiming a historic victory over the United States and our coalition." (George Bush, August 30, 2005 in San Diego.)

          So it is official, Casey had his blood shed in Iraq for OIL. He died so we could pay over 3.00/gallon for gas. Like I suspected all along, my dear, sweet son: almost 1900 others; and tens of thousands of innocent Iraqis died so the oil fields wouldn't "fall into the hands of terrorists" and so George and his immoral band of greedy robber barons could become wealthier. Like I have said all along: how can these people sleep at night and how can they choke down their food knowing it is purchased off of the flesh and blood of others? We have found our "Noble Cause." And it is OIL. This man and his handlers need to be stopped.

          This week we had a medical professional, an officer in the US military no less, on the eve of his deployment to Iraq, use a handgun to kill 13 fellow soldiers. Now I can't imagine what demons this fellow was dealing with, and I am no psychologist...but I can't help but think that this was not an act of "terrorism by a Muslim" [as the media and military want to describe it] so much as a revolt by an individual who felt completely overwhelmed and utterly helpless to control his destiny in any way.

          Most soldiers still do their duty as they have been trained. Some who reach the same desperate state as Hasan take their own lives instead. But I think the incident at Fort Hood may be indicative of growing and widespread disenchantment within the military about the mission. Just as with Colin Powell, who bailed out of the Administration, there's a limit to how much can be expected of loyal soldiers.

          My sense is that more and more of the American people are approaching the same state as the desperate Major Hasan. Most are still dutifully following the advice of their leaders and business elite, but there's a revolt brewing below deck.

          My brother tells me the "Bring Home Our Troops" signs far outnumber anything else in his neighbourhood now...
          Last edited by GRG55; November 06, 2009, 10:57 AM.

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            Re: Bubblevision Begins to Break Ranks...

            "This week we had a medical professional, an officer in the US military no less, on the eve of his deployment to Iraq, use a handgun to kill 13 fellow soldiers. Now I can't imagine what demons this fellow was dealing with, and I am no psychologist...but I can't help but think that this was not an act of "terrorism by a Muslim" [as the media and military want to describe it] so much as a revolt by an individual who felt completely overwhelmed and utterly helpless to control his destiny in any way. "

            I guess that he was reported to have been yelling "Allahu Akbar" while killing his comrades is irrelevent, huh? :rolleyes:
            Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. -Groucho

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              Re: Bubblevision Begins to Break Ranks...

              Originally posted by Master Shake View Post
              "This week we had a medical professional, an officer in the US military no less, on the eve of his deployment to Iraq, use a handgun to kill 13 fellow soldiers. Now I can't imagine what demons this fellow was dealing with, and I am no psychologist...but I can't help but think that this was not an act of "terrorism by a Muslim" [as the media and military want to describe it] so much as a revolt by an individual who felt completely overwhelmed and utterly helpless to control his destiny in any way. "

              I guess that he was reported to have been yelling "Allahu Akbar" while killing his comrades is irrelevent, huh? :rolleyes:
              Your statement is indicative of how easily too many Americans, like yourself, swallow a truly superficial assessment of these sorts of incidents.

              I am trying to encourage you people to apply some critical thinking and put some real context to what is happening in your nation.

              But if you feel more comfortable looking for terrorists under the bed, so be it.

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                Re: Bubblevision Begins to Break Ranks...

                Originally posted by Master Shake View Post
                I guess that he was reported to have been yelling "Allahu Akbar" while killing his comrades is irrelevent, huh? :rolleyes:
                He was blessing them so they get their 75 virgins. He was doing them a favor. Come on, get with it!

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                  Re: Bubblevision Begins to Break Ranks...

                  Originally posted by GRG55 View Post
                  Your statement is indicative of how easily too many Americans, like yourself, swallow a truly superficial assessment of these sorts of incidents.

                  I am trying to encourage you people to apply some critical thinking and put some real context to what is happening in your nation.

                  But if you feel more comfortable looking for terrorists under the bed, so be it.
                  If he was shouting "Akbar" or whatever, it is likely that he is a religious nut. If so, it is absolutely reasonable for him to kill/injure as many soldiers as he could. Kill the infidels = go to heaven.

                  Or, he was trying to save his muslim brothers and sisters and children that the soldiers would have killed on their deployment. I am all for killing bad guys, but as we have seen there is collateral damage.

                  I do not consider this guy a terrorist. He is either a crazy, or a calculating soldier for his cause.

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                    Re: Bubblevision Begins to Break Ranks...

                    Originally posted by GRG55 View Post
                    Your statement is indicative of how easily too many Americans, like yourself, swallow a truly superficial assessment of these sorts of incidents.

                    I am trying to encourage you people to apply some critical thinking and put some real context to what is happening in your nation.

                    But if you feel more comfortable looking for terrorists under the bed, so be it.

                    +10, thanks GRG

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                      Re: Bubblevision Begins to Break Ranks...

                      Originally posted by GRG55 View Post
                      Congress isn't going to save your Republic...the people will...

                      Correct. Democracy is not something you HAVE. Democracy is something you DO.

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                        Re: Bubblevision Begins to Break Ranks...

                        Originally posted by aaron View Post
                        He is either a crazy, or a calculating soldier for his cause.
                        NO, he is worse than that. He is someone who betrayed a sacred oath, and a bastard fuck to boot.

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                          Re: Bubblevision Begins to Break Ranks...

                          Originally posted by GRG55 View Post
                          Your statement is indicative of how easily too many Americans, like yourself, swallow a truly superficial assessment of these sorts of incidents.

                          I am trying to encourage you people to apply some critical thinking and put some real context to what is happening in your nation.

                          But if you feel more comfortable looking for terrorists under the bed, so be it.

                          A fundamental assessment is that this is yet another rotted fruit of multiculturalism. The West-or what was-and Islam are wholly incompatible
                          and should maintain seperation from each other. We stay out of their lands, they from ours-this includes stooges such as Cassius Clay and Lew Alcindor.

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                            Re: Bubblevision Begins to Break Ranks...

                            Originally posted by GRG55 View Post
                            Your statement is indicative of how easily too many Americans, like yourself, swallow a truly superficial assessment of these sorts of incidents.
                            Evidence that the country is actually changing, and that this assessment does not apply to the majority of Americans, is that Obama was elected president. We have changed leadership from that having a simplistic view of our position in the world, to a complex one that takes antagonistic views into account, and the historical reasons (real or imagined) for that antagonism.
                            Last edited by jneal3; November 06, 2009, 12:24 PM. Reason: hit submit too soon

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                              Re: Bubblevision Begins to Break Ranks...

                              Originally posted by aaron View Post
                              If he was shouting "Akbar" or whatever, it is likely that he is a religious nut...
                              This isn't a forum to conduct religious studies, but if you [and some of your fellow Americans] had even the most modest understanding of Islam, and the enormous differences in the role that religion plays in the daily lives of Muslims compared to our Christian societies, you may not have come so quickly to this conclusion.

                              In ancient Rome Caesar was God. The founding of Christianity, which refused to recognize this, placed its followers in the unenviable position of chosing between Caesar and God.
                              Matthew 22:21
                              ...Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's.
                              Above is a passage from the Christian bible [King James version]. And therein lies one of the most important differences between Christianity and Islam. As this passage attests, the dichotomy between the State and sacerdotium [the Church] dates back to the earliest days of Christianity. Our present day secular Western societies, which still operate on a significant remnant of Christian values [by which we judge the behaviour of Muslims and others, by the way] derive from this crucial historical separation of the State [Caesar] and the Church.

                              No such separation exists in Islam. In the polity that is Islam, God is the sole source of law...there is no Caesar. The Prophet Mohammed [PBUH] was both head of the "Church" and the head of State, and to this day Islam makes no distinction between the political community and the religious community...it contains no separate hierarchical institution for religious matters...and this is a circumstance that is the complete antithesis of Christianity and Christian teaching through the ages. The purpose of establishing the great Muslim caliphate, to spread God's revelation after the Prophet's death, was the embodiment of this critical difference between Islam and Christianity...a difference that both Islamic and Christian societies are still grappling with today. This is at the very heart of the conflict between modernity and Islam, in those Muslim nations that are attempting "progress" as measured by our secular Western standards.

                              So, if a belief that the only law is God's Holy Law, and one is obligated to govern one's life in accordance with that Law, makes one a "religious nut" then the whole of the Muslim world are religious nuts by that definition.

                              I am by no means trying to condone, excuse or rationalize what Major Hasan did. As I tried to describe in an earlier post on this thread, I don't really think his religion was the primary reason why this happened. I am merely trying to put in context his apparent declaration that "God is Great" ["Allahu Akbar"], and why such a declaration coming from a Muslim should not surprise, or be interpreted as making one either a "terrorist" or a "religious nut", as opposed to a very troubled soul.

                              Just for the record, I am neither Muslim nor Christian.
                              Last edited by GRG55; November 06, 2009, 01:17 PM.

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