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  • Power shift in Moscow? Or why Stratfor is worthless at least for Russia

    http://johnhelmer.net/?p=2087#more-2087

    Deputy Prime Prime Minister Igor Sechin, a critic of Gazprom’s management practices, has cast the deciding vote as chairman of the board of the state electricity utility, Inter RAO, to prefer Novatek, the domestic rival to Gazprom, for supplies of gas for Russia’s domestic power stations between 2010 and 2015. Novatek’s shareholding is controlled by Gennady Timchenko and Leonid Mikhelson. Novatek sources explain that because Gazprom is also a stakeholder in Novatek, and thus a related party, Novatek’s charter and bylaws require that the shareholders vote on whether to approve or reject the new contract. If the Novatek shareholders accept the board proposal in balloting due to conclude at a board meeting on November 24, Novatek will supply 65 bcm over the contract period, 13 bcm per annum; Gazprom, none. The proposed volume of gas represents more than 40% of Novatek’s annual production at the current rate. For Gazprom, it represents about 5% of last year’s production. Because the present Gazprom contract period runs to 2012, and the new one starts next year, Inter RAO has reportedly sent a notice of early contract termination to Gazprom. Gazprom headquarters declined to comment, and referred to the affiliated company, Mezhregiongaz, which asked for a written request, and then said it refuses to comment. Inter RAO’s spokesman Boris Zverev refused to say whether the selection of Novatek, and the cancellation of the Gazprom contract, have been cleared by President Dmitry Medvedev’s staff. Before he became president, Medvedev was chairman of the Gazprom board.
    And here is Stratfor saying that the 'civiliki' as headed by Surkov and fronted by Medvedev (government) and Gazprom (business) will dominate the 'siloviki' as headed by Sechin.

    https://www.stratfor.com/campaign/jo...ntent=Freelist

    Uh, no.

    This is Friedman level analysis - Thomas Friedman

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    Re: Power shift in Moscow? Or why Stratfor is worthless at least for Russia

    Originally posted by c1ue View Post
    http://johnhelmer.net/?p=2087#more-2087



    And here is Stratfor saying that the 'civiliki' as headed by Surkov and fronted by Medvedev (government) and Gazprom (business) will dominate the 'siloviki' as headed by Sechin.

    https://www.stratfor.com/campaign/jo...ntent=Freelist

    Uh, no.

    This is Friedman level analysis - Thomas Friedman
    maybe. i don't know enough to have an opinion, but it ain't over 'til it's over.

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    • #3
      Re: Power shift in Moscow? Or why Stratfor is worthless at least for Russia

      I predict Moscow will continue to be corrupt and Russia will continue to be ruled by the oil czars.

      Russia will never be a democracy because of Russian genetic defects due to inbreeding.

      "According to the most recent forecasts, Russia's population of 143 million people is expected to decrease by 22 percent between now and the year 2050. If the figures are borne out, Russia could lose up to 42 percent of its active working population."

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      • #4
        Re: Power shift in Moscow? Or why Stratfor is worthless at least for Russia

        Originally posted by MulaMan View Post
        I predict Moscow will continue to be corrupt and Russia will continue to be ruled by the oil czars.

        Russia will never be a democracy because of Russian genetic defects due to inbreeding.

        "According to the most recent forecasts, Russia's population of 143 million people is expected to decrease by 22 percent between now and the year 2050. If the figures are borne out, Russia could lose up to 42 percent of its active working population."

        What is a democracy ? Who wants it and who has it?

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        • #5
          Re: Power shift in Moscow? Or why Stratfor is worthless at least for Russia

          Originally posted by MulaMan
          I predict Moscow will continue to be corrupt and Russia will continue to be ruled by the oil czars.

          Russia will never be a democracy because of Russian genetic defects due to inbreeding.

          "According to the most recent forecasts, Russia's population of 143 million people is expected to decrease by 22 percent between now and the year 2050. If the figures are borne out, Russia could lose up to 42 percent of its active working population."
          215 posts as of November 8, 2009 @ 2:30pm PST

          20 on AGW

          40 on health care

          1 on Russia

          none with any information whatsoever.

          I think MM may be the recipient of the first ever c1ue Ignore list.

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          • #6
            Re: Power shift in Moscow? Or why Stratfor is worthless at least for Russia

            Originally posted by D-Mack View Post
            What is a democracy?
            The best of all bad (real) political systems.

            Who wants it?
            People that never had it.

            and who has it?
            People that don't appreciate it.

            Be careful what you wish for, you might get it.
            медведь

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            • #7
              Re: Power shift in Moscow? Or why Stratfor is worthless at least for Russia

              Originally posted by MulaMan View Post
              I predict Moscow will continue to be corrupt and Russia will continue to be ruled by the oil czars.

              Russia will never be a democracy because of Russian genetic defects due to inbreeding.

              "According to the most recent forecasts, Russia's population of 143 million people is expected to decrease by 22 percent between now and the year 2050. If the figures are borne out, Russia could lose up to 42 percent of its active working population."
              I'll give you an A+ for insults, an A- for ignorant drivel, and an F for informed and helpful contributions.

              She will likely never be a democracy due to many factors, mostly historical.

              Russia is a great nation that for all of its dysfuntional tendencies has produced great scientists (think Mendeleev, Sakarov, etc.), writers (think Dostoevsky, Tolstory, etc.) , performers (Barishnikov) and engineers (Artem Mikoyan, Mikhail Gurevich, Sergei Korolyov).

              Inbreeding, indeed.


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              • #8
                Re: Power shift in Moscow? Or why Stratfor is worthless at least for Russia

                Originally posted by Raz View Post
                I'll give you an A+ for insults, an A- for ignorant drivel, and an F for informed and helpful contributions.

                She will likely never be a democracy due to many factors, mostly historical.

                Russia is a great nation that for all of its dysfuntional tendencies has produced great scientists (think Mendeleev, Sakarov, etc.), writers (think Dostoevsky, Tolstory, etc.) , performers (Barishnikov) and engineers (Artem Mikoyan, Mikhail Gurevich, Sergei Korolyov).

                Inbreeding, indeed.

                You forgot Zvorykin http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_K._Zworykin
                and Sikorsky http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Igor_Sikorsky.

                However, you got the democracy part right. Russia will not be a democracy any time soon (if ever).
                медведь

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                • #9
                  Re: Power shift in Moscow? Or why Stratfor is worthless at least for Russia

                  However, you got the democracy part right. Russia will not be a democracy any time soon (if ever).


                  Old joke about the Russian soul:

                  A Russian, a Frenchman, and a British man all find out they have 24 hours to live. They are all asked how they will spend their last day on this earth. The Frenchman says he is going to find the most beautiful woman he can and make 24 hours worth of passionate love. The Brit says he is going to take his trusty sheepdog on one final walk along the English Moors and watch the sun set.

                  The Russian says, "Excuse me, but I am going to burn down my neighbor's house".

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                  • #10
                    Re: Power shift in Moscow? Or why Stratfor is worthless at least for Russia

                    Originally posted by D-Mack View Post
                    What is a democracy ? Who wants it and who has it?

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                    • #11
                      Re: Power shift in Moscow? Or why Stratfor is worthless at least for Russia

                      Originally posted by Raz View Post
                      ...and engineers (Artem Mikoyan, Mikhail Gurevich, Sergei Korolyov).
                      Don't forget Kalashnikov. That gun's a beauty of a design and that's why it's still used and made today.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Power shift in Moscow? Or why Stratfor is worthless at least for Russia

                        And some great philosophers and mystics.



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                        • #13
                          Re: Power shift in Moscow? Or why Stratfor is worthless at least for Russia

                          Originally posted by freuchie View Post
                          However, you got the democracy part right. Russia will not be a democracy any time soon (if ever).


                          Old joke about the Russian soul:

                          A Russian, a Frenchman, and a British man all find out they have 24 hours to live. They are all asked how they will spend their last day on this earth. The Frenchman says he is going to find the most beautiful woman he can and make 24 hours worth of passionate love. The Brit says he is going to take his trusty sheepdog on one final walk along the English Moors and watch the sun set.

                          The Russian says, "Excuse me, but I am going to burn down my neighbor's house".
                          Ha! That's a good one.

                          Here's another one.

                          Three men are walking along the seashore, a Frenchman, an American and a Russian.
                          They find a beautifully sculptured and painted bottle and when they uncork it a genie erupts and appears before them!
                          The genie says "I've spent over 100 years trapped in that bottle and now, thanks to you, I'm free! I'll give one wish to each of you - anything you want"!

                          The Frenchman said "I want to be irresistable to women". The genie said, "Sim sala Bim! Your wish is my command! You will know that I granted you such attractiveness and power as soon as you see a woman that you want".

                          The American said, "I want five Billion Dollars. With that amount of money I can have any woman I want, and anything else I want, too". The genie said, "Sim sala Bim! Your wish is my command and that amount has just appeared in your bank account!"

                          The Russian said, "My neighbor, he has a cow". The genie said, "Ah, so you would like a million cows?"
                          "No", said the Russian, "I just want his cow to die." :eek:

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                          • #14
                            Re: Power shift in Moscow? Or why Stratfor is worthless at least for Russia

                            Please point out an example of a "democracy," if you would be so kind.

                            Russian genetic defects? I must admit I won't be hanging waiting for your reply.:rolleyes:


                            Originally posted by MulaMan View Post
                            I predict Moscow will continue to be corrupt and Russia will continue to be ruled by the oil czars.

                            Russia will never be a democracy because of Russian genetic defects due to inbreeding.

                            "According to the most recent forecasts, Russia's population of 143 million people is expected to decrease by 22 percent between now and the year 2050. If the figures are borne out, Russia could lose up to 42 percent of its active working population."

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                            • #15
                              Re: Power shift in Moscow? Or why Stratfor is worthless at least for Russia

                              My son has been after me to read Leo Tolstoy's "The Kingdom of Heaven is Within You," which, contrary to the title, would not make christians in action smile at all.

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