Bill Moyer's Journal - Interview with William Black

[ThePythonicCow]

Re: Bill Moyer's Journal - Interview with William Black

and simon johnson still works for the imf.

William Black (former S&L regulator, in his Interview with Bill Moyers) and Simon Johnson (former chief IMF economist and author of The Quiet Coup, in The Atlantic) strike me as having quite different perspectives and agendas.

Black did not criticize the fundamental structure of Anglo dominated banking that has ruled the governments that have ruled the world for the last two or three centuries. Rather he called for Congressional hearings and the appropriate CEO heads to roll.

Johnson wants to bust up the banking elite such as Goldman and JPMorgan and associates. He recognizes that no one, in particular not the IMF, has the power to make this happen. Only the force of dire circumstances could accomplish this.

I would recommend Johnson's article to others. I don't recommend Black.

[Supercilious]

Re: Bill Moyer's Journal - Interview with William Black

Michael Josephson

1. Where trust is truly important there are no little lies. Any and every falsehood demonstrates a willingness to deceive and inspires the doubt: "What else have you lied to me about?" Just like tiny germs can cause deadly infections, little lies can kill credibility.
2. Excuses and justifications for lying are much more persuasive to the liar than the person lied to.
3. Every undiscovered lie is like a hidden land mine ready to explode a reputation or destroy credibility.
4. Honesty and forthrightness don't always pay, but dishonesty and concealment always cost. Nothing good may come of admitting wrongdoing, but it gets a lot worse when you don't.
5. Lies breed like rabbits. Once you start lying, it takes an ever-growing bodyguard of new lies to protect the old ones.
6. You can't lie to a liar or cheat a cheater without becoming a liar or cheater. If you "fight fire with fire," all you'll get in the end are the ashes of your own reputation.

That has nothing to do with dismissing Black just because he gave an interview to Alex Jones. Such a guilt by association dismissal IMHO is just superficial Paris Hiltonish thinking.

The argument made by Pythonic seems to me more reasonable than the superficial preconception of judging by the avenue. I wonder what you will say if one day Dr Hudson will be interviewed by Alex Jones?

[Supercilious]

Re: Bill Moyer's Journal - Interview with William Black

Renegade Economist is not Alex Jones.

Who is more credible, Prison Planet or Democracy Now?

Don't recall Democracy Now running any segments on aliens.

Who is more credible? Sfreeper or RGE Monitor?

I don't recall RGE Monitor or Krugman's blog running any segments on aliens.:p

EJ gave recently an interview on Sfreeper which runs segments on aliens and conspiracies:
http://www.sfreeper.com/2009/01/14/o...ity-bump-it-up

So FRED, should I understand that you are now questioning EJ's credibility because he gave a interview to SFreeper instead of giving an interview in Krugman's blog or in RGE monitor ???:eek:

(Just cheking if your system of evaluating the credibility of people is not only superficial but also consistent :p )

[D-Mack]

Re: Bill Moyer's Journal - Interview with William Black

Renegade Economist is not Alex Jones.

Who is more credible, Prison Planet or Democracy Now?

Don't recall Democracy Now running any segments on aliens.

Lighten up FRED. People watching Black's interview on Alex Jones will not start to believe immediately Alex Jones is right with everything and start living in fear of getting alien anal probes.

If we live by labels and preconceptions we are missing the beautiful music of life ... Watch this and have a better day

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lp0I...eature=related

I think somebody is confusing Alex Jones with this guy from CoastToCoast, I'm not so sure if Mr. Jones talks about Aliens, I think he even declines to.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...55970460535436



Where does DemocracyNow! get their money from and what is their history?

ALTERNATIVE MEDIA CENSORSHIP:
SPONSORED BY CIA's FORD FOUNDATION?

by bob feldman

The multi-billion dollar Ford Foundation's historic relationship to the Central Intelligence Agency [CIA] is rarely mentioned on Pacifica's DEMOCRACY NOW / Deep Dish TV show, on FAIR's COUNTERSPIN show, on the WORKING ASSETS RADIO show, on The Nation Institute's RADIO NATION show, on David Barsamian's ALTERNATIVE RADIO show or in the pages of PROGRESSIVE, MOTHER JONES and Z magazine. One reason may be because the Ford Foundation and other Establishment foundations subsidize the Establishment Left's alternative media gatekeepers / censors.

PACIFICA / DEMOCRACY NOW / DEEP DISH TV

Take Pacifica / DEMOCRACY NOW, an alternative radio network with annual revenues of $10 million in 2000, whose National Program Director was paid $63,000 in that year. In the early 1950s--when the CIA was using the Ford Foundation to help fund a non-communist "parallel left" as a liberal Establishment alternative to an independent, anti-Establishment revolutionary left--the Pacifica Foundation was given a $150,000 grant in 1951 by the Ford Foundation's Fund for Education. According to James Ledbetter's book Made Possible By..., "the Fund's first chief was Alexander Fraser, the president of the Shell Oil Company."

Besides subsidizing the Pacifica Foundation in the early 1950s, the Ford Foundation also spent a lot of money subsidizing many other noncommercial radio or television stations in the United States. According to Ledbetter's Made Possible By..., between 1951 and 1976, the Ford Foundation "spent nearly $300 million on noncommercial radio and television."

...

And in 1996, the Carnegie Corporation of New York gave Pacifica a $25,000 grant to launch its DEMOCRACY NOW show. In 1997 came a $13,000 grant from the J.M. Kaplan Fund to Pacifica to provide support for DEMOCRACY NOW. And in 1998 came a $25,000 grant to Pacifica from the Public Welfare Foundation "to report on hate crimes and related issues as part of its `DEMOCRACY NOW!" public-affairs radio program and an additional $10,000 grant to support DEMOCRACY NOW from the J.M. Kaplan Fund. That same year the Ford Foundation gave a $75,000 grant to Pacifica "toward marketing consultancy, promotional campaign and program development activities for radio program, DEMOCRACY NOW." In 1998 and 1999, two grants, totalling $22,500, were also given to Pacifica by the Boehm Foundation, to support its DEMOCRACY NOW show.

In early 2002, an additional Ford Foundation grant of $75,000 was given to Deep Dish TV "for the television news series, DEMOCRACY NOW, to continue incorporating the aftermath of the September 11th attack into future broadcasts." Besides being presently subsidized by the Ford Foundation to air Pacifica's DEMOCRACY NOW

...
http://www.questionsquestions.net/fe...feldman01.html

But shows like KPFA's Guns & Butter have critical voices like Hudson and they cover the geopolitical reality / 911.
As far as I know it wasn't easy for the show to get on but they are still on, so it's a good sign.

1951 Pacifica receives the first major foundation grant (Ford Foundation) for the support of a non-commercial broadcast operation.
http://www.kpfa.org/history

[ThePythonicCow]

Re: Bill Moyer's Journal - Interview with William Black

I think somebody is confusing Alex Jones with this guy from CoastToCoast, I'm not so sure if Mr. Jones talks about Aliens

Well ... Alex Jones was on CoastToCoast, discussing Aliens. You can listen to that episode at Alex Jones on UFOs,Aliens,and Project Blue Beam

What Alex Jones seems to be saying there is that he doubts there are enough aliens close enough to planet earth who would actually be able and interested in visiting us for there to be much chance of that. But what he suspects instead is that all this alien talk is yet another human caused conspiracy, perhaps to justify orbiting space weapons. The weapons could be aimed at humans, by humans, not aimed at aliens from outer space. Or one could create some serious mass panic (remember what Orson Wells was able to do with his radio show hoax?). As Jones says -- "the Ultimate false flag" event.

[D-Mack]

Re: Bill Moyer's Journal - Interview with William Black

But what is it with Bill Moyers and Vietnam? People accuse him of prettifying and selling the Vietnam war as LBJ's press secretary. True or not ?

Our now long-time beloved progressive Bill Moyers deserves all the praise in the positive and appreciative comments posted at the bottom of his fine acceptance speech on receiving the Ridenhour Courage Prize. (Posted on Alternet, in reprinting from The Nation Institute, April 10, 2008)

But with corporate media hailing McCain and every politician who willingly participated in the meaningless slaughter during what the Vietnamese call "The American War," what a powerful voice Bill Moyers could raise now if he shared his feelings of mortification for having been Johnson's press secretary, spreading the kind of lies and half truths which presently are used to put over the ad infinitum occupation wars in Iraq, Afghanistan and Somalia - again with heartbreaking taking of indigenous lives en mass.

Conglomerate owned entertainment/news would have to cover Bill if he spoke out, and maybe Moyers could single handedly stop the preposterous glory stories of the killing in Vietnam, Cambodia and Laos.

...
http://www.opednews.com/articles/gen...wars_2c_co.htm

Bill Moyers, seen by many today as a defiant liberal, was the president’s press secretary in charge of prettifying the war.
http://www.workers.org/2006/us/viet-nam-war-0309/

[LargoWinch]

Re: Bill Moyer's Journal - Interview with William Black

Black is Back (on Bloomberg on top of that, talk about MSM):

"Geithner's record of being a failure at every point in his career..."

[roxtar]

Re: Bill Moyer's Journal - Interview with William Black

Don't recall Democracy Now running any segments on aliens.

I'm not a daily listener of Alex Jones, but I've listened to him quite a bit over the past few years and I can't recall him ever doing any segments on aliens or UFOs. Perhaps you have him confused with Art Bell or George Noory.

[metalman]

Re: Bill Moyer's Journal - Interview with William Black

william black on moyers... 10k views

vs fred on yoyutube... 25 million views



are we f8cked?

[LargoWinch]

Re: Bill Moyer's Journal - Interview with William Black

are we f8cked?

So far...so good.