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Re: Zeitgeist: Addendum
It is hard to change period. True spirtual change is the hardest change of all. (Except maybe quitting smoking.) You'll notice in the Shi Lanka talks, while Krishnamurti talks badly of human history, in it's many incarnations of systems, He always says "You."
Real change cannot begin in the social struture. (History shows us that) It must begin in myself.
Aprpos to my earlier comment about change being hard. Even Mother Teresa said she doubted her own faith, and the existance of God. Here is a good quote about the difficulty:
Man considers the world to be real and is trapped in it because he directly perceives it with his senses. But his knowledge of God, through study, is indirect and mediate. Only through practice of spiritual discipline does he obtain, by the grace of God, direct and immediate knowledge of Him, and so is no more deceived by appearances. Hence for the average man there is no way to a higher life except through earnest, sincere, and wholehearted practice of spiritual discipline.
But meditation and prayer contain a certain element of ego. The ubiquitous ego is present even in the practice of spiritual austerities. When an aspirant has passed through the entire gamut of austerities, he realizes that God is still far away. Then he totally surrenders himself to God, seeking His mercy. Genuine self-surrender is not possible without prior self-effort. Only through self-effort does one come to know that God cannot be realized through self-effort. Then God reveals Himself to a man in His own good time. Neither meditation nor spiritual effort can compel this revelation. God's grace is showered when a seeker is completely free from desire or ego. Yet when the revelation comes, The seeker will not recognize God unless he has made himself ready through prior self-effort.
Originally posted by marvenger
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It is hard to change period. True spirtual change is the hardest change of all. (Except maybe quitting smoking.) You'll notice in the Shi Lanka talks, while Krishnamurti talks badly of human history, in it's many incarnations of systems, He always says "You."
Real change cannot begin in the social struture. (History shows us that) It must begin in myself.
Aprpos to my earlier comment about change being hard. Even Mother Teresa said she doubted her own faith, and the existance of God. Here is a good quote about the difficulty:
Man considers the world to be real and is trapped in it because he directly perceives it with his senses. But his knowledge of God, through study, is indirect and mediate. Only through practice of spiritual discipline does he obtain, by the grace of God, direct and immediate knowledge of Him, and so is no more deceived by appearances. Hence for the average man there is no way to a higher life except through earnest, sincere, and wholehearted practice of spiritual discipline.
But meditation and prayer contain a certain element of ego. The ubiquitous ego is present even in the practice of spiritual austerities. When an aspirant has passed through the entire gamut of austerities, he realizes that God is still far away. Then he totally surrenders himself to God, seeking His mercy. Genuine self-surrender is not possible without prior self-effort. Only through self-effort does one come to know that God cannot be realized through self-effort. Then God reveals Himself to a man in His own good time. Neither meditation nor spiritual effort can compel this revelation. God's grace is showered when a seeker is completely free from desire or ego. Yet when the revelation comes, The seeker will not recognize God unless he has made himself ready through prior self-effort.
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