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    From physics I know everything is enegry so you can't loose it it is just transfered from one state to another. The matter is the density of the energy source.

    Last edited by sandwind; April 07, 2010, 05:27 AM.

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    OMFG Electrolysis! Science has never heard of this before.
    Putting more energy into something than you get out is veeeeeeery efficient BTW.

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      The only problem is he neglected to include the electricity it took to run his RF source. About 1% of that went to run the Stirling engine, the other 99% was lost as heat in the system.

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        Originally posted by ggirod View Post
        The only problem is he neglected to include the electricity it took to run his RF source. About 1% of that went to run the Stirling engine, the other 99% was lost as heat in the system.
        Of course but this was the fault of the construction not the fuel. Anyway the easy access to salt water and it's amount on the earth is astonishing.
        Even with much lower efficiency than other fuels it could be usable only if proper equipment would be available. (at least people living near sea could use it)

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          Re: Salt water as fuel

          Originally posted by sandwind View Post
          Of course but this was the fault of the construction not the fuel. Anyway the easy access to salt water and it's amount on the earth is astonishing.
          Even with much lower efficiency than other fuels it could be usable only if proper equipment would be available. (at least people living near sea could use it)
          The one-liner "we lose money on every sale but we make it up in volume" comes to mind.

          If they could create a version in which the hydrogen and oxygen powered a fuel cell or generator which in turn powered the radio transmitter without the need for external input, then they would be on to something. My hunch is that the energy input required is greater than the output.

          Kanzius was featured on 60 Minutes two years ago but they didn't mention the salt water energy part. He became a bit delusional about the experimental cancer therapy, believing the radio waves healed even without the gold injection, as he coincidentally went into remission. Sadly, his cancer returned and he died in Feb '09.

          -Jimmy

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            Re: Salt water as fuel

            Originally posted by Rekutyn View Post
            OMFG Electrolysis! Science has never heard of this before.
            Putting more energy into something than you get out is veeeeeeery efficient BTW.
            Media tends to play up lots of stories. They get more views that way, hence this thread. According to his wikipedia page, it says that the man himself never declared it to be anything more than it was, and said it was "thought provoking."
            Last edited by Ghent12; April 10, 2010, 01:32 PM.

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              Re: Salt water as fuel

              Perpetual motion? Free electricity? Power from salt water? Sure, WTF, why not? The laws of thermodynamics don't apply to us because we're special....

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