News from Detroit: All houses are empty. If I scream who will hear me.

[sandwind]

Dislocation of resources vs people life.

[Kadriana]

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Wow, that was rather depressing.

[metalman]

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she should have moved out a long time ago when she saw this coming now it's too late.

it's an object lesson for the rest of us. as peak cheap oil empties out northeastern suburbs because few can afford the cost of gasoline & heating oil to live there, don't be the last one left to turn out the lights... or candles as the case may be.

[jimmygu3]

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Dislocation of resources vs people life.

That is pretty shocking. This video was posted in August '08- hopefully she's out by now.

With a little sleuthing I found her address. The house next door to her sold for $800 a year before the news story. Since that wasn't enough reason to abandon ship, maybe when the house across the street sold for $200 this June she saw the writing on the wall. Here's a Zillow map of the neighborhood showing the 42 houses for sale and recently sold under $1K.

Pack your suitcase and move to subsidized housing somewhere warmer, Mirabelle!

[Slimprofits]

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That is pretty shocking. This video was posted in August '08- hopefully she's out by now.

With a little sleuthing I found her address. The house next door to her sold for $800 a year before the news story. Since that wasn't enough reason to abandon ship, maybe when the house across the street sold for $200 this June she saw the writing on the wall. Here's a Zillow map of the neighborhood showing the 42 houses for sale and recently sold under $1K.

Pack your suitcase and move to subsidized housing somewhere warmer, Mirabelle!

According to the YouTube comments, she passed on a few months later.

[karim0028]

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I can only imagine what it must be like for a senior citizen in a situation like that....

If i had any kids, i would have been begging them to take me in at that point....

[cjppjc]

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[goadam1]

Re: News from Detroit: All houses are empty. If I scream who will hear me.

she should have moved out a long time ago when she saw this coming now it's too late.

it's an object lesson for the rest of us. as peak cheap oil empties out northeastern suburbs because few can afford the cost of gasoline & heating oil to live there, don't be the last one left to turn out the lights... or candles as the case may be.

Yeah, get a condo in Arizona cheap. Oh, wait no water or jobs.

See, plenty of stuff to burn.

[goadam1]

Re: News from Detroit: All houses are empty. If I scream who will hear me.

she should have moved out a long time ago when she saw this coming now it's too late.

it's an object lesson for the rest of us. as peak cheap oil empties out northeastern suburbs because few can afford the cost of gasoline & heating oil to live there, don't be the last one left to turn out the lights... or candles as the case may be.

It seems Kunstler is going to be right:

http://www.kunstler.com/

[goadam1]

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Dislocation of resources vs people life.

Mike Davis is good on this topic.

From Publishers Weekly
Urban theorist Davis takes a global approach to documenting the astonishing depth of squalid poverty that dominates the lives of the planet's increasingly urban population, detailing poor urban communities from Cape Town and Caracas to Casablanca and Khartoum. Davis argues health, justice and social issues associated with gargantuan slums (the largest, in Mexico City, has an estimated population of 4 million) get overlooked in world politics: "The demonizing rhetorics of the various international 'wars' on terrorism, drugs, and crime are so much semantic apartheid: they construct epistemological walls around gecekondus, favelas, and chawls that disable any honest debate about the daily violence of economic exclusion." Though Davis focuses on individual communities, he presents statistics showing the skyrocketing population and number of "megaslums" (informally, "stinking mountains of shit" or, formally, "when shanty-towns and squatter communities merge in continuous belts of informal housing and poverty, usually on the urban periphery") since the 1960s. Layered over the hard numbers are a fascinating grid of specific area studies and sub-topics ranging from how the Olympics has spurred the forceful relocation of thousands (and, sometimes, hundreds of thousands) of the urban poor, to the conversion of formerly second world countries to third world status. Davis paints a bleak picture of the upward trend in urbanization and maintains a stark outlook for slum-dwellers' futures.

http://www.amazon.com/Planet-Slums-M...tt_at_ep_dpi_1

[metalman]

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It seems Kunstler is going to be right:

http://www.kunstler.com/

my, my... he's honed his rep as a hater of all things suburban and mallish... and now he's 'come out' as a gun man, to boot? 'looking for ammo'?

speaking of wingnuts, remember this guy?

[goadam1]

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my, my... he's honed his rep as a hater of all things suburban and mallish... and now he's 'come out' as a gun man, to boot? 'looking for ammo'?

speaking of wingnuts, remember this guy?

I agree with Kunstler on urban planning. I also like to read him to fortify a bad mood. But he also is still defending his prediction of y2k. Calente is a laugh. But there is some truth in what he says. People are mellow still. They have faith still. I don't know what happens if unemployment stays in double digits for a couple of years. Or if gas goes to $4.

[goadam1]

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my, my... he's honed his rep as a hater of all things suburban and mallish... and now he's 'come out' as a gun man, to boot? 'looking for ammo'?

speaking of wingnuts, remember this guy?

Fred likes to go off on 20% unemployment, empty commercial real estate and political strife too. And the need for new energy. Depends on how you frame the discussion for legitimacy.

[reallife]

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I agree with Kunstler on urban planning. I also like to read him to fortify a bad mood. But he also is still defending his prediction of y2k. Calente is a laugh. But there is some truth in what he says. People are mellow still. They have faith still. I don't know what happens if unemployment stays in double digits for a couple of years. Or if gas goes to $4.

Don't worry....Gas will go to $4 and much higher soon...

[Wild Style]

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Fred likes to go off on 20% unemployment, empty commercial real estate and political strife too. And the need for new energy. Depends on how you frame the discussion for legitimacy.

great post. I agree 100%. All three seem to be saying fairly the same thing. One (Fred) says it in a very calm and calculated way with pretty charts and graphs, one (Celente) says it as if he is raving mad while foaming at the mouth and the other (Kustler) seems to say it in a pissed off, angry SOB sorta way. Either way, the agreed upon prognosis seems to be prolonged suckage.