How Science Will Lead the Coming Reboot

[Sapiens]

[ThePythonicCow]

Re: How Science Will Lead the Coming Reboot

That was a good TED talk. Thanks for posting the link.

[cjppjc]

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Yes that was great. Thanks.

[chr5648]

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Saw this a while ago, lots of good points, but a little naive in thinking this will create jobs and run an economy, since that is what he is inferring from the beginning.

Also if anything, when man evolves I am pretty sure the "oligarchs" will decide what is acceptable evolution and such.

[Sapiens]

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[goadam1]

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Awesome. I'm pretty sure not all of us will be allowed to "evolve." In the short run, will new healthcare pay for an infinite number of replacement parts? How will those resources be doled out? And the fun we will have mucking with the chain of life. No potential accidents there. And robots and algorithms to replace all labor and mind capital.

Reboot indeed.

[ThePythonicCow]

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Saw this a while ago, lots of good points, but a little naive in thinking this will create jobs and run an economy, since that is what he is inferring from the beginning.

He is, knowingly, mixing timeframes.

The economy may go to heck in a hand basket this decade, but many of us in our lifetimes will see remarkable changes as a result of this technology.

If someone had told you in the Great Depression, as war loomed, the impact of computers would be as large as it has been, you'd have been skeptical, I'm sure.

His closing was the key tie-in. He asked that we don't starve investing in the beginnings of this work due to our more immediate problems. That's a reasonable request in my view, which he motivated well.

[Diarmuid]

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Saw this a while ago, lots of good points, but a little naive in thinking this will create jobs and run an economy, since that is what he is inferring from the beginning.

Also if anything, when man evolves I am pretty sure the "oligarchs" will decide what is acceptable evolution and such.

Thanks Sapiens for the post

A little naive indeed, I often find it strange how the ethical questions to such matter play virtually no part in such sound bite talks. If such things were to come to pass I too don't think the deaf, dumb and blind would be the ones with the super implants, extended life etc.., he even has a name for these technologically adavanced men and women "homo evolutis", - wonder what implictations it would have on accepted doctrine such as -

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness. To secure this rights governments are instituted among men, deriving their just power from the consent of the governed;"

not good I would say.

[metalman]

How Military Spending Will Lead the Coming Reboot

you guys are killing me with these gee whiz ted talks.

- ideas are cheap... a dime a dozen. making something... that's rare.

- making something takes $$$

- the robot in his video... make by boston dynamics... a mil contractor. curious choice as a example of how science will pull us out of this tailspin. maybe if we have a war we can generate enough demand for these to help our economy?

here's the vid of the robot you bought with your tax dollars...



here's the parody of the vid of the robot you bought with your tax dollars...



and another thing... he never does answer the question about how to keep the dollar from crashing to zero. or is the answer to spend more gov't money on weapons tech?

and who'll get the regrown organs? not the 46 million americans who don't have health insurance and not 20% of those who do, unless they pay through the nose for extra coverage.

only on the west coast, birthplace for every half baked, crackpot idea for more than 30 yrs, not by coincidence ground zero for the tech and housing bubbles, and working on a green bubble.

another silly ted talk. spare me.

[Diarmuid]

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here's the parody of the vid of the robot you bought with your tax dollars...

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ROFL - fantastic parody - thanks for the giggles

[goadam1]

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I appreciate the optimism you find on TED. But they seem to see only one side of the equation. Just imagine a world where machines are so much better than humans. Machines that can make decisions and replace people. What in history has shown us that this world will be some kind of lotus eating paradise. All boats rise in a general rise in standards of living. But who controls the machines controls the world.

[metalman]

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ROFL - fantastic parody - thanks for the giggles

kills me every time i see it!

here's my ted talk antidote... the other california.

[Rajiv]

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you guys are killing me with these gee whiz ted talks.

- ideas are cheap... a dime a dozen. making something... that's rare.

- making something takes $$$

- the robot in his video... make by boston dynamics... a mil contractor. curious choice as a example of how science will pull us out of this tailspin. maybe if we have a war we can generate enough demand for these to help our economy?
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and another thing... he never does answer the question about how to keep the dollar from crashing to zero. or is the answer to spend more gov't money on weapons tech?

and who'll get the regrown organs? not the 46 million americans who don't have health insurance and not 20% of those who do, unless they pay through the nose for extra coverage.

only on the west coast, birthplace for every half baked, crackpot idea for more than 30 yrs, not by coincidence ground zero for the tech and housing bubbles, and working on a green bubble.

another silly ted talk. spare me.

Thank you for saying that.

I would like to counter Sapiens' videos with the following video (25 minutes)

What if the world embodied our highest potential? What would it look like? As the structures of modern society crumble, is it enough to respond with the same tired solutions? Or are we being called to question a set of unexamined assumptions that form the very basis of our civilization?

This 25-minute retrospective asks us to reflect on the state of the world and ourselves, and to listen more closely to what is being asked of us at this time of unprecedented global transformation.

[goadam1]

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Thank you for saying that.

I would like to counter Sapiens' videos with the following video (25 minutes)

I like the video with the $50 million dollar robot dog (sponsored by rolex) that is going to save us better. It made me feel better about my center left middle class lifestyle. And if my ear gets blown of in Iraq, I want someone to grow me another one.

[goadam1]

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The quasi religion of the Singularity freaks me out. I've read enough Science Fiction to see how that all end games. I hope our purpose on this planet isn't to extinguish carbon life and replace it with silicon life.

Anyone read Dan Simmons, "Hyperon"?