Trump to win?

[Woodsman]

Re: Trump to win?

Occam's razor might suggest a different explanation.

Mr. Trump's daughter, Ivanka, is married to a young man named Jared Kushner.
Jared Kushner is a close adviser to Mr. Trump, and is especially involved in the transition.
Jared Kushner's father is Charles Kushner.

Charles spent two years in a federal prison after he was was convicted of making illegal campaign contributions, tax evasion and witness tampering.
The federal prosecutor that convicted the elder Kushner is Chris Christie.

The younger Kushner may have pushed out Mr. Christie for sending his dad to prison.
Simple personal revenge might explain it all.

Revenge is never simple. I think Christie glommed on to Trump because having been shellacked in the primaries and with Bridgegate nipping at his heels, it was go for broke time. He had no place else to go. Who can forget this priceless moment:

Trump took Christie on for the establishment cred and who knows, maybe just for the sheer pleasure of hanging another GOP skull on his wall. He pretty much owned the guy from that moment on. I'm sure Kushner the Younger's desire to set things right for his old man had a tangential influence, but would not the Occam's razor lead us to conclude that having no further use of Christie and given his baggage, it was simply the right time to fire the guy. He may keep him on in some humiliating bottle washer capacity in the event he might one day prove useful, or it could be that Christie might find his manhood again and walk. And nobody really cares outside of the geek prom set. The guy is a piece of work anyway and I'm glad to see his influence diminish.

The only thing Trump has going for him in that town is his inner circle and the support of the voters who elected him. The more he plays to those voters and appears to be fighting against the Washington establishment, Democrat or Republican, he's winning.

Every other faction in the D.C. Metro wants him gone, one way or another. It's hard to say who despises him more, the press or the Democrats. The Federal nomeklatura is 98% Democrat, excepting the guys and gals with the guns who skew towards the right. And the GOP leadership doesn't care for him either, but right now they're terrified of what comes next and none of them want to cross President Trump before the honeymoon never starts.

Has there been a president since Lincoln who has elicited such unbridled hate from his opposition?

[Woodsman]

Re: Trump to win?

Not sure what to think of this because I don't disagree with you, but the thought that Russian government-funded media might be a more reliable source on US affairs than any domestic media is troubling, to say the least.

RT might wind up being the 1st Amendment's canary in a coal mine. Irony abounds. Just like today with The Times insisting they treated both candidates "fairly" in the same open letter where they "rededicate" themselves to good journalism, only to retract the fairly line a few hours later.

[santafe2]

Re: Trump to win?

I feel like I might be going insane. Wasn't it you who was telling us yesterday that Trump's chief strategist was an anti-semite. Are you now saying that Trump's Jewish son-in-law is calling the shots? These conspiracies are getting very confusing.

You're most likely not insane DS but this game is a bit more complex than hide and seek. Bear with me. Trump's chief strategist is an anti-Semite. It's a matter of public record. The man hates Jews. He also hates anyone else who doesn't fit his narrow definition of worthwhile humans but that's another discussion.

But The Donald trusts his family more than anyone outside that circle. He trusts his daughter Ivanka and her husband as much as anyone in the family. He has to choose between the anti-Semitic BS of Steve Bannon and his family. I suspect that's too complex an idea for you and the rest of the iTulip crayon clan to process.

Jared is the son of a long standing New Jersey crime family. His father is indefensible...and a multi-billionaire. The Trump crime family are still pretenders but they have an exalted position. I know it's tough to try and wrap your brain around these ideas but money and power often Trumps religion.

[santafe2]

Re: Trump to win?

My first choice for President never ran. Elizabeth Warren has issued a warning to DJT...we will hold you to your promises. We will crush you if you move away from your promises. I'm with her. I suspect the iTulip crayon clan will now demonize her. Clan...prove me wrong.

http://www.warren.senate.gov/files/d...ump_Letter.pdf

[vt]

Re: Trump to win?

You have no proof Bannon is anti-Semitic. If you have any please cite the source.

However Congressman Keith Ellison of Minnesota, who appears to be the front runner for the DNC head, seems to have a troubling history of anti-semitism:

http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/2648...robert-spencer

[Woodsman]

Re: Trump to win?

You're most likely not insane DS but this game is a bit more complex than hide and seek. Bear with me. Trump's chief strategist is an anti-Semite. It's a matter of public record. The man hates Jews. He also hates anyone else who doesn't fit his narrow definition of worthwhile humans but that's another discussion...

That's disgusting, this slander.

So every Jew that's come to his defense, from the Prime Minister of Israel, the many Jews who worked with him (many his hires) at Breitbart.com, Bannon's hiring by Andrew Breitbart - a observant Jew himself - Alan Dershowitz and even America's TV Rabbi, Shmuley Boteach, what, they're all liars too? They're all self-hating Jews? All are apostates who care more about winning than offending G-d by violating His 9th Commandment?

Maybe that's something we should read up ourselves? I'll save us the trouble of looking it up:

"Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor."

What a ufcked-world liberals inhabit. It's one where admitted antisemites (caught on camera, multiple times) are feted and forgiven because they make entertaining movies, whereas others who have spent a life and a career working with Jews and supporting the Jewish state are made anathema because of an allegation (long denied) made by a disgruntled divorced wife.

The issue isn't antisemitism at all. It's that the social justice types need something to restore their tattered narrative to primacy as Bannon has ripped it to shreds and it lies in pieces before their feet.

It's not going to work.

[Chris Coles]

Re: Trump to win?

That's disgusting, this slander.

So every Jew that's come to his defense, from the Prime Minister of Israel, the many Jews who worked with him (many his hires) at Breitbart.com, Bannon's hiring by Andrew Breitbart - a observant Jew himself - Alan Dershowitz and even America's TV Rabbi, Shmuley Boteach, what, they're all liars too? They're all self-hating Jews? All are apostates who care more about winning than offending G-d by violating His 9th Commandment?

Maybe that's something we should read up ourselves? I'll save us the trouble of looking it up:



What a ufucked-world liberals inhabit. It's one where admitted antisemites (caught on camera, multiple times) are feted and forgiven because they make entertaining movies, whereas others who have spent a life and a career working with Jews and supporting the Jewish state are made anathema because of an allegation (long denied) made by a disgruntled divorced wife.

The issue isn't antisemitism at all. It's that the social justice types need something to restore their tattered narrative to primacy as Bannon has ripped it to shreds and it lies in pieces before their feet.

It's not going to work.

Not disagreeing with you, but a brief clip of a longer interview with Yair Lapid, Israeli Finance Minister 2013-14, turned up on BBC Newsnight last night
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode...night-16112016

In it he says something that always jarrs with my understanding of the right to free speech; When asked, is it possible to be anti Zionist without being anti Semite? his answer being: "I think not".

It would seem that ANY attempt, by anyone, regardless of their background, to argue that Israel is acting improperly towards the Palestinian people surrounding them; allows them to be painted anti Semite and thus instantly discredited. That does not accord with my understanding of the right to express honestly held views as free speech; that one may disagree with anything that another might say; but that I defend to the grave their right to say it.

Today, we are, all of us outside Israel, automatically painted as anti-semite if we so much as utter a single word of disgust at their treatment of the Palestinian people.

And I write that when the memory of one of my greatest friends, long gone now but then a very prominent Jew, floods back into my memory of him.

[dcarrigg]

Re: Trump to win?

You have no proof Bannon is anti-Semitic. If you have any please cite the source.

However Congressman Keith Ellison of Minnesota, who appears to be the front runner for the DNC head, seems to have a troubling history of anti-semitism:

http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/2648...robert-spencer

Just stop it.

[vt]

Re: Trump to win?

DC,

I think you see from other board members too, who the person that needs to stop it is. I said we need to move on, but it continues.

[DSpencer]

Re: Trump to win?

My first choice for President never ran. Elizabeth Warren has issued a warning to DJT...we will hold you to your promises. We will crush you if you move away from your promises. I'm with her. I suspect the iTulip crayon clan will now demonize her. Clan...prove me wrong.

http://www.warren.senate.gov/files/d...ump_Letter.pdf

In your effort to be dramatic, you do Warren a disservice by mischaracterizing her actual words. Nowhere does she say she "crush you". She says she will track, monitor and oppose him. This grandiose rhetoric comes from you. It was the same nonsense we heard from you before the election. Unlike you, Warren seems to realize that promising to do things she doesn't have the power to do makes her seem foolish.

Warren is fantastic at times. Her grilling of the Wells Fargo CEO was top notch entertainment. However, she is fatally flawed. You can't endorse Hillary for President while claiming to care about lobbying and corruption. It simply does not compute.

[lektrode]

Re: Trump to win?

In your effort to be dramatic, you do Warren a disservice by mischaracterizing her actual words. Nowhere does she say she "crush you". She says she will track, monitor and oppose him. This grandiose rhetoric comes from you. It was the same nonsense we heard from you before the election. Unlike you, Warren seems to realize that promising to do things she doesn't have the power to do makes her seem foolish.

Warren is fantastic at times. Her grilling of the Wells Fargo CEO was top notch entertainment. However, she is fatally flawed. You can't endorse Hillary for President while claiming to care about lobbying and corruption. It simply does not compute.

us deplorable crayon scribblers would agree...

santa is a CRONY CAPITALIST fraud, PLAIN AND SIMPLE.
he milked the solar subsidy giveaway til it dried up,
and he just recently outed himself as now on the 'healthcare' crony gravytrain.

methinks he's a professional troll, hired/paid by the obozo+hillbilly show

[lektrode]

Re: Trump to win?

You're most likely not insane DS but this game is a bit more complex than hide and seek. Bear with me. Trump's chief strategist is an anti-Semite. It's a matter of public record. The man hates Jews. He also hates anyone else who doesn't fit his narrow definition of worthwhile humans but that's another discussion.

But The Donald trusts his family more than anyone outside that circle. He trusts his daughter Ivanka and her husband as much as anyone in the family. He has to choose between the anti-Semitic BS of Steve Bannon and his family. I suspect that's too complex an idea for you and the rest of the iTulip crayon clan to process.

Jared is the son of a long standing New Jersey crime family. His father is indefensible...and a multi-billionaire. The Trump crime family are still pretenders but they have an exalted position. I know it's tough to try and wrap your brain around these ideas but money and power often Trumps religion.

HAHAHAHAHA!!!

when ya cant beat em, distract em - eh santa?
(or just like the obozo-hillbilly shows liar/lawyer pals, deny delay obfuscate em)

how about hitlery's son in law - you know - the ex-goldmine slacker who started his own 'hedgefund'
that promptly LOST 90% OF HIS CLIENTS MONEY ?

you really are going off the reservation now, duu`de

it's HILARIOUS how thems 'with her' have basically had nervous-mental breakdowns since
she was exposed for the FRAUD SHE IS

and how MOST OF THE REST OF US _dont_ agree with the BS that the LAMERSTREAM MEDIA
has been puking out the past 8 years.


must be quite a comedown - maybe try their antidote and go crawl into your safe space, curl up into
the fetal position with a nice blankie and cry yerself to sleep, eh santa?

what a bunch of douchebags...

[Woodsman]

Re: Trump to win?

The latest from Greer:

"The usual response has been to insist that, well, yes, maybe Trump did address the issues that matter to people in flyover country, but even so, it was utterly wrong of them to vote for [him]. We’ll set aside for the moment the question of how far these labels actually apply to Trump, and how much they’re the product of demonizing rhetoric on the part of his political enemies on both sides of the partisan divide. Even accepting the truth of these accusations, what the line of argument just cited claims is that people in the flyover states should have ignored the issues that affect their own lives, and should have voted instead for the issues that liberals think are important. In some idyllic Utopian world, maybe. In the real world, that’s not going to happen. People are not going to embrace the current agenda of the American Left if doing so means that they can expect their medical insurance to double in price every couple of years, their wages to continue lurching downward, their communities to sink further in a death spiral of economic collapse, and their kids to come home in body bags from yet another pointless war in the Middle East."

When The Shouting Stops

[jk]

Re: Trump to win?

king canute and climate change

Gov. Rick Scott’s ban on climate change term extended to other state agencies
Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/news/stat...#storylink=cpy


but, otoh,

Intensified by Climate
Change, ‘King
Tides’ Change Ways
of Life in Florida

[jk]

Re: Trump to win?

king canute and climate change

Gov. Rick Scott’s ban on climate change term extended to other state agencies


but, otoh,

Intensified by Climate
Change, ‘King
Tides’ Change Ways
of Life in Florida