Trump to win?

[Chris Coles]

Re: Trump to win?

I wonder if Angela Merkel reads iTulip?

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-1...ess-algorithms

Certainly, I have wondered if President Obama reads iTulip?

[touchring]

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I wonder if Angela Merkel reads iTulip?

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-1...ess-algorithms

Nothing surprising, everyone censors their websites, it's their own right, even this forum deletes posts it doesn't like without any notice.

The search technology is no longer a secret. If Merkel doesn't like it, she should create her own search engine for Germany just like China and Russia. There's enough german speakers to make such a search engine commercially viable.

[DSpencer]

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Certainly, I have wondered if President Obama reads iTulip?

I hope you then realized how absurdly unlikely that is.

[FrankL]

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Nothing surprising, everyone censors their websites, it's their own right, even this forum deletes posts it doesn't like without any notice.

The search technology is no longer a secret. If Merkel doesn't like it, she should create her own search engine for Germany just like China and Russia. There's enough german speakers to make such a search engine commercially viable.

this is one of the things that baffle me about Europe...

Nokia, back when it was a behemoth, was in the process of developing/building its own smartphone OS (Meego). Then there was a MS takeover (first by installation of Stephen Elop as CEO, later the buyout of the cellphone division by MS), and subsequent destruction of the Nokia cellphone business.

Now internet search, social media and cellphone software is now almost exclusively controlled by US companies, some with very close ties to US government.
Are European politicians really that naive?

[Chris Coles]

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I hope you then realized how absurdly unlikely that is.

iTulip is a very diverse community with some great thinkers and the man is, after all, just another; if he has an open mind, he will find such debates of use and sometimes inspirational, as we do; so why not? Yes agreed, he is certainly not going to do so openly, but that is an obvious aspect. Unlikely, yes; absurd, certainly not.

[Milton Kuo]

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this is one of the things that baffle me about Europe...

Nokia, back when it was a behemoth, was in the process of developing/building its own smartphone OS (Meego). Then there was a MS takeover (first by installation of Stephen Elop as CEO, later the buyout of the cellphone division by MS), and subsequent destruction of the Nokia cellphone business.

Now internet search, social media and cellphone software is now almost exclusively controlled by US companies, some with very close ties to US government.
Are European politicians really that naive?

The destruction of Nokia was not enabled by European politicans and, if the Elop was a Microsoft plant, he only hastened the inevitable. The iPhone caught practically everyone by surprise and destroyed most of them. I remember very clearly a conference I attended in 2007 before the iPhone was announced. The speaker was from Nokia (I commented that he looked like Legolas ) and one of the slides showed the market share of mobile phone providers in the U.S. and Europe. The U.S. was a fragmented market then with no vendor having a significant market share (I think maybe 10% or 20% was the market share of the biggest player) while in Europe, Nokia was clearly the dominant maker of mobile phones with well over 50% of the market. A few short years later and Nokia was no longer a player.

Motorola, Nokia, Blackberry. These once major players in the mobile phone industry are now all roadkill thanks to the iPhone and Android.

[touchring]

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The destruction of Nokia was not enabled by European politicans and, if the Elop was a Microsoft plant, he only hastened the inevitable. The iPhone caught practically everyone by surprise and destroyed most of them. I remember very clearly a conference I attended in 2007 before the iPhone was announced. The speaker was from Nokia (I commented that he looked like Legolas ) and one of the slides showed the market share of mobile phone providers in the U.S. and Europe. The U.S. was a fragmented market then with no vendor having a significant market share (I think maybe 10% or 20% was the market share of the biggest player) while in Europe, Nokia was clearly the dominant maker of mobile phones with well over 50% of the market. A few short years later and Nokia was no longer a player.

Motorola, Nokia, Blackberry. These once major players in the mobile phone industry are now all roadkill thanks to the iPhone and Android.

I think Europe is just moving on to focusing on higher value add and less competitive industries over the past 20 years. You could see this from the way Siemens AG sold off their mobile phone, PC and appliance business way before their US counterparts such as GE and IBM.

Consumer products are just too competitive and the hype rarely last for more than 10 years before cheap "compatibles" flood the market. Even for iPhone, I can foresee that within 4-5 years, cheap Chinese "android compatible" devices like Yun OS will be flooding the market.

I currently use an iPhone for business use, not because I like it - the new generation of iPhone sucks compared to old ones like iPhone 4, but because of trend (a better term for hype). Given a choice, I will use a Mi.

Standalone and Internet software can easily be replaced if consumers are given the incentive to change, just like how people switched from Windows OS to MacOS because of hype. Infrastructure, where there is hardware and software combined is much harder to replace - and to outsource. You can outsource a Fortune 500's entire IT department to India, but you can't outsource the maintenance and management of a power plant system to India.

[lakedaemonian]

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Nothing surprising, everyone censors their websites, it's their own right, even this forum deletes posts it doesn't like without any notice.

The search technology is no longer a secret. If Merkel doesn't like it, she should create her own search engine for Germany just like China and Russia. There's enough german speakers to make such a search engine commercially viable.

I would agree, right up until it hits that point it achieve monopolistic dominance.

A world where search and social categories have diversity of thought/ownership possesses less risk of politically motivated malignancy.

An artificial world of 3 rough parity search/social businesses where one is caught with their hands in the political bias/influence cookie jar would likely suffer and would be disincentivized from doing so to begin with.

In the real world, with no large scale alternative to Google and Facebook there's much less of a disincentive to fiddle, shape, and influence things to achieve their own political outcomes.

This upcoming January, the same month as the Inaugeration, will coincidentally be the 35th Anniversary of the breakup of Ma Bell:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CHgUN_95UAw

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SvesMBkduQo

The last time the word monopoly was used in Europe regarding US tech companies was Microsoft.

That ended fairly quietly, for 3 reasons I believe(my opinion):

1)Microsoft did a horrible job at "non market activity" such as political lobbying

2)Microsoft dominance was quickly waning.

3)I suspect a large/unspoken reason for the push from EU countries(and the reason why China's government didn't use Windows) was to gain equal or near equal access to Windows source code and backdoors for offensive/defensive intelligence operations.

Today Google and Facebook are unfortunately doing a fantastic job at "non market activity"(political lobbying) learning from Microsoft's failure make them more resistant to external political pressure.

And the ethereal and nebulous attribution of their revenue/profit makes them a more difficult target for sovereign states to counter.

[Chris Coles]

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The destruction of Nokia was not enabled by European politicans and, if the Elop was a Microsoft plant, he only hastened the inevitable. The iPhone caught practically everyone by surprise and destroyed most of them. I remember very clearly a conference I attended in 2007 before the iPhone was announced. The speaker was from Nokia (I commented that he looked like Legolas ) and one of the slides showed the market share of mobile phone providers in the U.S. and Europe. The U.S. was a fragmented market then with no vendor having a significant market share (I think maybe 10% or 20% was the market share of the biggest player) while in Europe, Nokia was clearly the dominant maker of mobile phones with well over 50% of the market. A few short years later and Nokia was no longer a player.

Motorola, Nokia, Blackberry. These once major players in the mobile phone industry are now all roadkill thanks to the iPhone and Android.

2001 - 2003 I was based in Washington DC trying to establish a Video-911 system for the entire USA via access my rights provided by three US telecom patents and as such was a regular invited attendee at the Andrew Seybold Wireless Dinners http://andrewseybold.com/events/wireless-dinner where, just before the first launch of the iPhone, Andrew openly stated that he would be surprised if the iPhone sold a million in the first year.......

[Milton Kuo]

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2001 - 2003 I was based in Washington DC trying to establish a Video-911 system for the entire USA via access my rights provided by three US telecom patents and as such was a regular invited attendee at the Andrew Seybold Wireless Dinners http://andrewseybold.com/events/wireless-dinner where, just before the first launch of the iPhone, Andrew openly stated that he would be surprised if the iPhone sold a million in the first year.......

Steve Ballmer probably had a similar thought:

I didn't mention Microsoft but in the early 2000s, the Windows Mobile phones were perhaps the smart phone with the biggest market share of the total mobile phone market. I think Microsoft may have had 8% or so of the market. After many restarts, Windows Phone today has less than 1% market share. I haven't met anyone who cares about writing apps for Windows Phone.

[vt]

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FBI informs Congress that is is probing new Clinton emails for classified material:

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/10/28/fbi-p...on-emails.html

Why announce now 11 days before the election? Why did Tim Kaine cancel his Florida rally? Yes, he did attract only 30 people at a rally recently.

If new very damaging information is found, will Hillary be forced to step down? Of course a deal would be likely to have her step down for "health" reasons.

Are the Wikileaks revelations of possible massive fraud with the Clinton Foundation also involved? There is lots of damaging information there.

If she did step down who would replace her? Tim Kaine? Would they draft Biden to save the day?

I still remember the spring and early summer of 1974 when I was early declaring Nixon was involved in Watergate. I remember Ben Bradlee saying to my table at lunch: We love to find low dealings in high places"

This election may get even stranger and wilder than before.

Here is the Wikileaks scorecard:

http://www.mostdamagingwikileaks.com/

Hillary campaign chief just deleted his ENTIRE Twitter timeline:

http://truthfeed.com/breaking-hillar...imeline/32477/

[Woodsman]

Re: Trump to win?

FBI informs Congress that is is probing new Clinton emails for classified material:

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/10/28/fbi-p...on-emails.html

Why announce now 11 days before the election? Why did Tim Kaine cancel his Florida rally? Yes, he did attract only 30 people at a rally recently.

If new very damaging information is found, will Hillary be forced to step down? Of course a deal would be likely to have her step down for "health" reasons.

Are the Wikileaks revelations of possible massive fraud with the Clinton Foundation also involved? There is lots of damaging information there.

If she did step down who would replace her? Tim Kaine? Would they draft Biden to save the day?

I still remember the spring and early summer of 1974 when I was early declaring Nixon was involved in Watergate. I remember Ben Bradlee saying to my table at lunch: We love to find low dealings in high places"

This election may get even stranger and wilder than before.

Here is the Wikileaks scorecard:

http://www.mostdamagingwikileaks.com/

Hillary campaign chief just deleted his ENTIRE Twitter timeline:

http://truthfeed.com/breaking-hillar...imeline/32477/

The cover up is always worse than the crime. At this rate, a special prosecutor will find Clinton, Podesta, Mills and Brazile violated the same laws that collared the Watergate 7. Maybe they can use the same cells they locked Mitchell, Haldeman, Erlichman, and Colson?

[vt]

Re: Trump to win?

Carl Bernstein weighs in:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vid...bombshell.html


The emails on Huma's computer definitely involve national security. They were shared with the intelligence committee as well as the judiciary committee. They would not have been brought up 11 days before the election unless there is very good reason to do so.

The public needs to know as much as possible before the election.

[santafe2]

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The emails on Huma's computer definitely involve national security. They were shared with the intelligence committee as well as the judiciary committee. They would not have been brought up 11 days before the election unless there is very good reason to do so.

The public needs to know as much as possible before the election.

We all agree on this one and HRC is the one demanding more information. I'm surprised but glad you agree with her. His letter to Congress was vaguely incriminating. He sent it because if on the odd chance there actually is something there and he didn't do this, he might be the one on the hot seat. The way he did this was sloppy and self serving. Now the Dems are demanding the FBI release more information. It's going to be an interesting 11 days.

[lakedaemonian]

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We all agree on this one and HRC is the one demanding more information. I'm surprised but glad you agree with her. His letter to Congress was vaguely incriminating. He sent it because if on the odd chance there actually is something there and he didn't do this, he might be the one on the hot seat. The way he did this was sloppy and self serving. Now the Dems are demanding the FBI release more information. It's going to be an interesting 11 days.

What's also interesting is the timing.

I'm across the time/date line so I'm not exactly sure when this rolled out.

Did it roll out Friday afternoon once the markets closed?

The last time I recall something similar happening it was a few months ago on a Friday afternoon in San Francisco after the markets had closed when the phone of a fellow classmate and friend(CTO of a major Turkish mobile carrier) started blowing up with over the attempted coup.

That was a very interesting and action packed weekend.

That turned out to be a major mess that hasn't yet ended, and this looks like it could be going the same route.

I'm starting to get a bit anxious around North American Friday Afternoons.