Trump to win?

[shiny!]

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Best. Smackdown. Ever.

Clinton replied: 'Its just awfully good that someone with the temperament of Donald Trump is not in charge of the law of our country.'

'Because you'd be in jail,' he snapped.

[shiny!]

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This made me feel all warm and fuzzy:

clinton.jpg

[wayiwalk]

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Shiny, I agree, it is funny but at the same time so sad that we are enjoying something real and not a skit on Saturday Night Live.

The first debate, it didn't quite sink in.

Sunday night's debate, and it hit me really hard what a place this country is in right now.

[DSpencer]

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Shiny, I agree, it is funny but at the same time so sad that we are enjoying something real and not a skit on Saturday Night Live.

The first debate, it didn't quite sink in.

Sunday night's debate, and it hit me really hard what a place this country is in right now.

I agree that it's a bad situation. However, one of the features that makes our country great is that we don't elect dictators. Even though our last few presidents have abused their executive power, those overreaches are still small compared to what some countries are dealing with. Hopefully, I have not jinxed us.

[lektrode]

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I agree that it's a bad situation. However, one of the features that makes our country great is that we don't elect dictators. ...

'not yet' you mean...

when the hillamonster 'takes over'
The United States of America - as We, The People have known it, paid for it,
with BLOOD, SWEAT AND TEARS - for the past Two Hundred Forty Years - NAY, going on 400 years?

will be 'officially' D.E.A.D.
with the complete AND UTTERLY H.O.S.T.I.L.E takeover of the entire us.gov

which WILL BE, if not already- a WHOLLY-OWNED subsidiary of the Fascist State of amerika
headquartered in lower manhattan, with the 'imperial palace' located in chappaqua

[lakedaemonian]

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Best. Smackdown. Ever.

I wonder if the on screen awkward "punishment" of both Hillary Clinton's "You'd be in jail" and Bill Clinton's "Four horse women of the apocalypse" will turn out to be an Orwellian "Two Minute Hate".

I thought Trump's performance improved significantly from the first formal debate to the second town hall format debate.

But I don't see him getting first past the post, unless the very heavy one sided anti-Trump effort that is being broadcast 24/7/365 in traditional media completely fails to penetrate the anonymity of the voting booth.

A BREXIT squared maybe?

Otherwise the only cost to the Clinton Dynasty is a politically correct toothlessTwo Minute Hate or artificial Struggle Session.

[Woodsman]

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The Woodsman strategery rolls on!

At this point, we suspect that no matter who "wins" this internal struggle between Trump and the establishment candidates, the Republican party, as it is currently known, is already dead. To some extent, that, in and of itself, means that Trump has already won as the whole point of his candidacy and basis of his support was a complete disruption of establishment control of Washington...on both sides of the aisle...which is something that establishment Republicans have failed to understand from the very start of this election cycle.
Civil War Breaks Out Between Donald Trump And Paul Ryan

[Woodsman]

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And on!

“When humans lose their ability to make sense of rapid global change and the old story collapses and leaves a void, we need new ways of thinking, and we need them fast. At present, though, we are still in the nihilist moment of disillusionment and anger, in which people lose faith in the old story but before they have embraced a new one. This is the Trump moment” [The New Yorker].

Gramsci said it better (from memory): “The old is dying and the new is struggling to be born. In the interim, a great variety of morbid symptoms appear.”

http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2016/...-10112016.html

[jk]

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The Woodsman strategery rolls on!

the republican party is certainly disrupted at the moment, but it remains to be seen whether and in what form it might come back together given either outcome of the presidential vote. if trump loses as per the current polling they might even revert to the same old same old.

the democrats are not disrupted yet, and it's unclear whether even defeat in november would change that party much. of course if hrc loses the dems need to move on to a new generation of candidates, and those are mighty thin on the ground.

[Woodsman]

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...the democrats are not disrupted yet, and it's unclear whether even defeat in november would change that party much. of course if hrc loses the dems need to move on to a new generation of candidates, and those are mighty thin on the ground.

Au contraire mon frčre. It may not be as apparent as the GOP's, but you can be absolutely certain that the knives are being sharpened, the recriminations are being formulated and trenches are being dug. The powder keg will explode when the contradictions reach critical mass.

Were it not for the 100% lock step coordination between the DNC, the Clinton campaign and the major media, never mind the increasingly obvious footprints of the cloak and dagger boys turning their skills on the folks here in the homeland, you would have more stories to this effect.

Every day that goes by we see more and more Wikileaks reveals of the skulduggery and dirty dealing on Bernie - who just happens to be the most popular Democrat and (depending on the poll) politician in America at the moment. Each passing day gives his partisans and supporters time to digest how they were robbed. Check this little nugget:

@rweingarten calling the National Nurses Union "sanctimonious" for endorsing Bernie. Plans to "go after them." #PodestaEmails #podesta2

If the collusion among establishment elites and institutions drags HRC across the finish, she begins paying back all the favors and granting all the expected patronage and sweetheart deals the afternoon of Inauguration Day. And then the fissures begin erupting once the public promises to the hoi polloi are jettisoned and her "private positions" become policy.

Should by miracle Trump overcome the media, the DNC, the RNC, and in effect the rest of the world, and wins decisively, well then it's on like Donkey Kong!

And the media. Credibility 100% gone regardless of the outcome. No Truth in Pravda and No News in Izvestia now until the unforeseeable future, I think.

[touchring]

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Should by miracle Trump overcome the media, the DNC, the RNC, and in effect the rest of the world, and wins decisively, well then it's on like Donkey Kong!

And the media. Credibility 100% gone regardless of the outcome. No Truth in Pravda and No News in Izvestia now until the unforeseeable future, I think.

The likelihood of him winning is not good. Nothing is going to change, America will continue her path towards third world status by 2036, a journey that started almost 20 years ago. But judging from how he is faring, even if he wins, he might not be able to fight the system.

The world economy will be affected temporarily as the US is a major part of the world economy, but as Asia catches up, particularly so with East Asia, the world will return to the time of Christopher Columbus.

[vt]

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Asia? Well parts of it will do well.

But remember Japan and Russia are demographically deceased and China has worse demographics than the U.S. by far. India is the future of Asia and southeast will do well.

The U.S. will continue to do fine for the next 30 years as fortress America and technology keep the economy afloat and positive demographics speed up growth.

[lakedaemonian]

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The VERY short "flash to bang" on a recent document/email dump with Wikileaks that included an allegedly falsified email(Russian disinformation operations perhaps to disrupt US election) was VERY quickly flaunted by Trump.

I know we live in an instantaneous information age, but the needle(potentially artificial)/haystack really comes to mind with this.

I would be quite interested to see the OODA(Observe, Orient, Decide, Act) chain within the Trump campaign on this particular occasion.

It certainly raises the distinct possibility of the Trump campaign sitting on a continuum with collusion with Russian disinformation/disruption operations on one end and being a naive patsy on the other end.

Very strange.

The Gary Johnson campaign video is a ray of sunshine in entertainment, honesty, and innovation:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLAh3pui-CI

[Jam]

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In case anyone missed it, here is a summary of the debate for dummies.

[Woodsman]

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The VERY short "flash to bang" on a recent document/email dump with Wikileaks that included an allegedly falsified email(Russian disinformation operations perhaps to disrupt US election) was VERY quickly flaunted by Trump.

McCarthyite red-baiting baloney and I think you know it is Lake. I'd say shame on you but since you might be acting here in a "professional" capacity I understand that orders are orders.

Nonetheless, you have zero evidence. Total bovine scatalogy spook crap.

“Come January, Democrats will continue to be the dominant political faction in the U.S. — more so than ever — and the tactics they are now embracing will endure past the election, making them worthy of scrutiny. Those tactics now most prominently include dismissing away any facts or documents that reflect negatively on their leaders as fake, and strongly insinuating that anyone who questions or opposes those leaders is a stooge or agent of the Kremlin, tasked with a subversive and dangerously un-American mission on behalf of hostile actors in Moscow”

https://theintercept.com/2016/10/11/...s-putin-plots/

Boris Badenov and Natasha are more convincing, but hardly more laugh out loud funny than this Russian plot bull. Folks need to read this one again to inoculate themselves from this spy vs. spy nonsense. This isn't Italy 1948 and there's no Red Menace to scare Americans into submission. Y'all are going to have to come up with a new script.