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  • Re: Trump to win?

    Originally posted by lektrode View Post
    jeeeeeze, vt - what?

    its same as it ever was.

    STILL NOBODY GOES TO JAIL ???

    and the crimewave/syndicate known as 'the clinton foundation' rolls on....
    Of course it's the same. Large campaign contributions (bribes) are get out of jail currency!

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      Only one sentence,

      "Americans overestimate themselves".

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        Harvard Republican Club won't back Trump.

        https://www.facebook.com/HarvardGOP/...90758900944693

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          Clinton Cash documentary based on the book of the same name. It's excellent IMO. Fair warning on propaganda techniques in use: There's some heavy-handed visual imagery and music in the beginning, a transparent attempt to create emotional thinking. It almost made me stop watching. Mostly I just listened while playing mahjongg:



          I'd like to encourage everyone who is so disgusted with Trump and Clinton that they're thinking of staying home on election day to instead vote the Libertarian ticket. You don't have to agree with the Libertarian platform 100%. A large third-party showing this election will help put a dent in the corrupt two-party system.

          Be kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle.

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            Americans need to get the Libertarians to poll above 15% before the debates start in order to get them into the debates. It's a long shot but possible.

            The only way to do this is to have it go viral by peer to peer discussion, then have the media pick it up and show the potential. The media also has to stress that a third party can win the election with as little as 35% of the vote and not 50%. Clinton only got 42% in 1992.

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              Originally posted by vt View Post
              Americans need to get the Libertarians to poll above 15% before the debates start in order to get them into the debates. It's a long shot but possible.

              The only way to do this is to have it go viral by peer to peer discussion, then have the media pick it up and show the potential. The media also has to stress that a third party can win the election with as little as 35% of the vote and not 50%. Clinton only got 42% in 1992.

              I don't really know about the third party but I think getting the third party to win is 10 times harder than to make North Korea a democracy. Why would any kleptocracy back a third party that doesn't work for them?

              Without money, influence, how will a third party win? Trump with all his billions and Hollywood fame /infamy can't dislodge the system, there's no way a third party can win.
              Last edited by touchring; August 07, 2016, 12:36 AM.

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                Very much agreed it's the longest of longshots. But who would have predicted a year ago Trump would win the Republican nomination or that Sanders would almost upset Clinton for the Democrat nomination.

                We have three months to go before the election and we may still see some unusual things happen.

                http://www.reuters.com/article/us-us...-idUSKCN10G2BQ

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                  Originally posted by vt View Post
                  Very much agreed it's the longest of longshots. But who would have predicted a year ago Trump would win the Republican nomination or that Sanders would almost upset Clinton for the Democrat nomination.

                  We have three months to go before the election and we may still see some unusual things happen.

                  http://www.reuters.com/article/us-us...-idUSKCN10G2BQ

                  There's a lot of illegal things done for this American presidential election, I won't be surprised that unusual things will happen. The US is not the UK.

                  The American Kleptocracy seems hell bent on pushing up Clinton for some reason, like their very lives depend on it.

                  Trump is not the ideal choice for the Republicans, given his attitude towards minorities, but Clinton is worst, don't the Democrats have got a better candidate than Clinton? Is it because she is easier to control?
                  Last edited by touchring; August 07, 2016, 02:51 AM.

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                    even if a 3rd party got 40% of the vote i would be skeptical of its electoral college success. to win, a candidate must win STATES.

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                      Originally posted by jk View Post
                      even if a 3rd party got 40% of the vote i would be skeptical of its electoral college success. to win, a candidate must win STATES.
                      Agreed, but there's more to this election than the presidential race. There are senators and congressional representatives on the ballot, too. 3rd party wins in congress now can can be the camel's nose under the tent for 2020. It's still a longshot but it's better than doing nothing.

                      Be kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle.

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                        dup deleted...
                        (apparently the 'bugs' are back in the posting process...
                        which likely doesnt have anything to do with this....)
                        Last edited by lektrode; August 07, 2016, 07:18 PM.

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                          and i'll just leave this here....

                          MF Global 5 Years Later: PWC Set To Take The Fall As Corzine Still Untouched

                          Jon Corzine, former Governor of New Jersey and CEO of Goldman Sachs, took over the helm of MF Global in March 2010. When revenue at the bank failed to live up to expectations, Corzine developed a scheme to place a massive $6BN bet on the sovereign debt of the aptly named PIIGS (Portugal, Italy, Ireland, Greece, Spain) through a financial structure known as a "Repo to Maturity". To summarize the strategy for all you aspiring CEO's, when you find it difficult to generate organic revenue growth sometimes the better option is to just bet your entire firm on a single, massively-levered trade on the sovereign debt of countries on the verge of insolvency.
                          Well, not so much. Deterioration of the Eurozone economies in mid-2011 resulted in massive margin calls on Corzine's trade and a liquidity crisis at MF Global. By the time the dust settled there was $1.6BN of cash "missing" from customer accounts which should have been segregated. And with that, less than 2 years after Mr. Corzine took the CEO seat, MF Global filed for bankruptcy protection on October 31, 2011 in the Southern District of New York.
                          We know what you're thinking...sounds reckless to risk an entire firm on the highly volatile sovereign debt of a group of countries labeled the "PIIGS", right? Well apparently it's not that big of a deal unless you're the scapegoat accountants.
                          Yesterday, U.S. District Court Judge Victor Marrero of New York denied PwC’s motion for dismissal of a $1 billion professional malpractice suit filed by MF Global against the accounting firm saying that the administrator had "presented sufficient evidence to create a material factual dispute" as to whether advice from PwC ultimately played a role in the bankruptcy filing. According to the WSJ:


                          MF Global sued PwC in March 2014 for at least $1 billion, alleging that the firm’s accounting advice helped cause MF Global’s 2011 collapse. Officials in charge of MF Global’s liquidation claimed PwC gave “flatly erroneous” advice on how to account for the European sovereign debt that tipped MF Global into bankruptcy.

                          MF Global’s lawsuit against PwC claims the accounting firm’s advice is what allowed Mr. Corzine to make such a big bet in the first place, a charge PwC has denied.

                          In a 69-page decision, the judge said the administrator “has presented sufficient evidence to create a material factual dispute” as to whether PwC’s accounting advice played a role in MF Global’s bankruptcy in the fall of 2011.

                          “This is a major victory for the MF Global estate,” said Nader Tavakoli, MF Global’s lead director. “It sends a strong message concerning the need for responsibility and accountability, and we hope to secure a substantial recovery for MF Global’s stakeholders.”

                          Daniel Fetterman, a lawyer from Kasowitz Benson Torres & Friedman LLP who is representing MF Global, called the ruling a “significant victory” in the legal fight.

                          “We look forward to presenting at trial the evidence concerning PwC’s extraordinary and egregious malpractice alleged in the complaint and its role in causing MF Global’s demise,” he said.
                          For its part, PwC has maintained that reckless trading decisions and "adverse market conditions" were the real cause of the bankruptcy filing, not faulty accounting of the trades.


                          In response, James P. Cusick, PwC’s lawyer, said the accounting firm stands by its work for MF Global, and that the commodity broker correctly accounted for the so-called repo-to-maturity transactions at issue in the lawsuit.

                          MF Global’s collapse was caused by its own business decisions and adverse market events, not any accounting determination” said Mr. Cusick, a litigator at King & Spalding.
                          Lesson learned. If you commit a murder it's the gun's fault, if you gain 20 lbs it's the fork's fault and if you place a massively levered trade that blows up your firm then it's the accountant's fault. After all, it's not the losses of a failed trade that caused the liquidity crisis at MF Global but rather the timing of the realization of those losses that are truly to blame.
                          As for Jon Corzine, last we heard he was trying to raise capital for a new hedge fund (one which may have trouble getting a primary dealer designation) and we are confident he will succeed for two reasons.
                          Reason #1:


                          And Reason #2:

                          * * *

                          For those interested, the full decision can be read here...
                          and here's a tasty little nugget:

                          If The Fact Neocons Are Now Supporting Hillary Clinton Confuses You, Read This


                          It kinda feels like reality has slipped off its axis and we’ve landed on a Bizarro World version of America. Democrats are acting like Republicans. Pat Buchanan is championing the GOP’s “Peace Candidate.” And the Neocons are fleeing from a party they’ve used like a geopolitical cudgel for the better part of three decades. Neo-confused? Don't be...In a word — it’s Russia.
                          uh huh... Riiiiight...

                          Trump Was Right? Obama Admits US Must Partner With Russia To Beat ISIS


                          Well this is a little awkward. Following John Kerry's "seeking cooperation" apology tour to Moscow, President Obama appears to be following the path that Donald Trump has suggested as Military.com reports, Obama said Thursday at the Pentagon that The United States must try to broker a deal with Russia to coordinate military operations in Syria and drive the Islamic State group out of that country. Perhaps he had not checked with Hillary on Putin's apparent level of 'Hitler-iness' or perhaps, just perhaps, Trump was right in suggesting diplomatic efforts before bombast, and warmongery?
                          • Aug 7, 2016 2:35 PM
                          but....

                          if ya really must know?

                          The Warren Buffett Economy: How Central-Bank-Enabled Financialization Divided America


                          Needless to say, the above outlandish graph does not capture capitalism at work. Nor did the speculators who surfed upon this $45 trillion bubble harvest their monumental windfalls owing to investment genius. Instead, it is the perverted fruit of Bubble Finance, and there is no better illustration of this bubble surfer syndrome than the sainted Warren Buffett.

                          Submitted by David Stockman via Contra Corner blog,
                          • Aug 7, 2016 3:00 PM
                          which is why ole uncle warren is just the latest to pile-on top of the donald...

                          since 'he's a loose cannon', ya know
                          Last edited by lektrode; August 07, 2016, 07:16 PM.

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                          • Re: Trump to win?

                            Drug Testing Presidential Candidates

                            http://blog.dilbert.com/post/1485992...ial-candidates

                            And this:

                            http://theamericanmirror.com/shock-p...helped-stairs/

                            2012:

                            http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/03/us...lood-clot.html

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                              "The Washington Post awarded Mrs. Clinton four Pinocchios for her falsehood in the Wallace interview. But the New York Times didn’t even cover the story until its public editor, Liz Spayd, wrote a blog post Tuesday titled “The Clinton Story You Didn’t Read Here.” Ms. Spayd observed: “If you’re getting all your political news from the New York Times, this may be the first time you’re hearing this."

                              On Friday Mrs. Clinton had a chance to revise her comments when a reporter asked her: “Are you mischaracterizing Director Comey’s testimony and is this not undercutting your efforts to rebuild trust with the American people?”

                              Her reply: “Director Comey had said that my answers in my FBI interview were truthful. That’s really the bottom line here and I have said during the interview and in many other occasions over the past few months, that what I told the FBI, which he said was truthful, is consistent with what I have said publicly. So I may have short-circuited and for that, I, you know, will try to clarify.”

                              A writer for the left-of-center website Slate called Mrs. Clinton’s comments a “master class in obfuscation” and “an awkward journey of dissembling and lawyerly quibbling.” A spokesman for Mr. Trump called it a “painful, pretzel-like response.”

                              Mrs. Clinton’s short-circuiting of the truth on Friday also included a repetition of her false claim that “I never sent or received anything that was marked classified.” Mr. Comey testified that she did, and added that in any case “participants who know or should know that the subject matter is classified are still obligated to protect it.”

                              Clintonian obfuscation won’t hide the reason she set up her private email server in her basement. She publicly claimed it was for “convenience,” so that she could use a single device for her work and personal emails, but Mr. Comey confirmed she used multiple devices. Mrs. Clinton disclosed the real reason in a 2010 email that came to light later. “I don’t want any risk of the personal being accessible,” she wrote her State Department advisers. She chose to evade the requirement that her work emails be on State’s servers because that would have made them accessible to the public under disclosure laws.

                              The result is that her emails are available—just not to Americans. Contrary to Mrs. Clinton’s claim that “there were no security breaches,” security experts agree China, Russia and unknown others hacked into all 63,000 emails on the home-brew server—including the 33,000 she failed to provide under court order.

                              The timeline suggests after Russia hacked Mrs. Clinton’s emails, its spies decided to complete their knowledge of Mrs. Clinton’s relationships by hacking the Clinton Foundation, State Department and Democratic National Committee. Unless a friendly spy agency that hacked Mrs. Clinton’s emails does Americans a favor by publishing them before the election, if she is elected Vladimir Putin will have the capacity to blackmail her at will."

                              L. Gordon Crovitz 8/7/2016

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                                Is Hillary Clinton Corrupt? An Archive of Financial Improprieties

                                (naaaah... nothing to see there.... move along...)


                                Sanders Supporters Stunned by Sudden Death of 38-Year Shawn Lucas Who Served the Lawsuit on the DNC and Wasserman Shultz

                                By Pam Martens and Russ Martens: August 8, 2016

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