Trump to win?

[Woodsman]

Re: Trump to win?

Supporting Bernie is truly a religious experience. It should come complete with a martyr's cross and a crown of thorns - which, given his religion, is just dumbfounding. He goes on to rail against Nixon to what point? Nixon, not his opponent, was elected twice.

White folk are just going crazy on both sides of the aisle.

"Forget it, Jake. It's Chinatown"

Or something like that, right?

[jk]

Re: Trump to win?

Or something like that, right?

so woodsman, what are your thoughts this morning, with hillary's convincing win in california yesterday? i must admit to some disappointment and sense of deflation when i saw that result.

and since you reference the soviet union, do you think the u.s. could crumble as quickly and surprisingly as the ussr? it doesn't seem likely, and i think the us is much more robust than the ussr ever was, but otoh i thought the ussr would still be around throughout my life.

[Woodsman]

Re: Trump to win?

so woodsman, what are your thoughts this morning, with hillary's convincing win in california yesterday? i must admit to some disappointment and sense of deflation when i saw that result.

and since you reference the soviet union, do you think the u.s. could crumble as quickly and surprisingly as the ussr? it doesn't seem likely, and i think the us is much more robust than the ussr ever was, but otoh i thought the ussr would still be around throughout my life.

Welcome President Trump.

I think Bernie scared the pantsuit off Clinton. If the last Marist poll showing him beating her by big margins among independents and new voters looked grim, the internals had them crapping their shorts so much they pigpiled on the old man! Might SF2 say something like "bitch-slapped?" He got smoked.

Pretty impressive, huh? The lockstep discipline of the corporate democratic machine leaves me in awe. I must admit, having the AP call the race over the day before the election based on an anonymous poll of super delegates was a particularly poetic "ufck you" if I do say so myself.

And Obama breaking precedent with his last minute Hail-Mary endorsement must have cost a few chits! I think Greg Palast had the real deal on what I think was the voter suppression weapon of choice - the NPP ballots and arcane rules about who gets to vote and who gets counted. And those are Clinton dominated too, so all the more impressive is Bernie's showing. Never thought I'd live to see the day, honestly.

There's a gold mine here to learn from Bernie's remarkable race and as rich as the wave of donations that are streaming into his HQ right now, richer still is the donor list he and Tad Devine will mine into the down vote and the next cycle. He's a decent guy and always keeps his word, so I expect to see the thin lipped smile and hunched shoulders with arms raised up before the end of the silly in Philly as he promised back when HRC was all smiles and confidence. I look forward to hearing your perspective.

Of course we know the perspective of El Jefe Trump (Viva!). Then there's folks like Chris Hedges calling for "insurrection" in his morning constitution over at TruthDig. Please Lord, no. I think that's gratuitous. Especially since he won't be getting his own skull crushed by Ed Rendell's goon squads or fall prey to one of Roger Stone's Craiglist riots.

This is a long game. Bernie is going to keep running and raising money into the convention and beyond. He has an independent base now and will use it to his advantage. So the saga continues.

Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning.

Like you I don't think there's any chance of us "crumbling" or any such thing, but there's an increasing chance now that we'll ride along with Hillary as she and a bunch of crazy right wing Poles and Ukrainians in common cause with American neocons take us into Valhalla in a war with Russia in Eastern Europe. But it's all the same to me as I don't expect I'll live long enough to see "the end" and if it turns out that's the end anyway, well ok. Go Trump.

I know there were people in the USSR with far more intellect and intelligence that I can hope to possess that felt every bit of existential certainty you and I do right now that things would muddle along pretty much forever. I wasn't equipped to argue with them about it, then or in hindsight.

"When despair for the world grows in me
and I wake in the night at the least sound
in fear of what my life and my children’s lives may be,
I go and lie down where the wood drake
rests in his beauty on the water, and the great heron feeds.

I come into the peace of wild things
who do not tax their lives with forethought
of grief. I come into the presence of still water.
And I feel above me the day-blind stars
waiting with their light. For a time
I rest in the grace of the world, and am free.”

Wendell Berry

The member who sent that article actually changed it with the old substitution trick, where they traded out "Soviet" for "American." Pretty neat.

[jk]

Re: Trump to win?

i was also struck by the timing of the ap's "secret" poll and its announcement. i question whether it was happenstance that it came out the day before the california ballot. nonetheless, hillary's margin there was substantial. there's no getting around the fact that bernie never got many votes from hispanics and african americans.

hillary is a very flawed candidate. as you say, "hello president trump."

i think bernie would concede only if he got some guarantees about the platform [as if platforms mean much] and perhaps depending on the choice of vp. otherwise he carries on with the thought that it's his only route to any influence whatsoever in philadelphia. it doesn't matter much.

what does matter is if he ultimately campaigns for hillary for real, not just standing aside or going through the motions. it might make a difference in the turnout of younger voters.

i wonder about the senate.

[santafe2]

Re: Trump to win?

I think Bernie scared the pantsuit off Clinton. If the last Marist poll showing him beating her by big margins among independents and new voters looked grim, the internals had them crapping their shorts so much they pigpiled on the old man! Might SF2 say something like "bitch-slapped?" He got smoked.

Pretty impressive, huh? The lockstep discipline of the corporate democratic machine leaves me in awe. I must admit, having the AP call the race over the day before the election based on an anonymous poll of super delegates was a particularly poetic "ufck you" if I do say so myself.

I was surprised by the margin of victory. I think there are enough older Dems, Hispanics and black folks in CA to assure victory. Bernie never made a lot of headway into those demographic areas. As for the AP pole, if you think there's something hinky going on, there probably is. I checked this morning to see if Scott Adams had commented on it in his persuasion series but nothing yet. But it fits perfectly, a well respected organization like AP says, Hillary won. This asks the question of Bernie voters, "do you want to vote for a loser?". We don't know how much it helped Clinton but we know it didn't hurt.

It seems clear to me that Clinton can't win without support from Sanders. I've no doubt she'll get it but I wonder what she'll have to give up to get his support and access to the list of Sanders donors. She can also make the mistake of picking another corporatist as VP. That would probably cost her several percentage points as the left will opt-out of the election. I hope she's smarter than that.

I feel no joy in Sanders' loss in CA and will reserve the term "bitch-slapped" for the Trumpster should we be so fortunate as to avoid that disaster in November.

[ProdigyofZen]

Re: Trump to win?

This is a partisan rant penned by a socialist Bernie supporter (who anticipates his loss). It is filled with salty, Anglo-Saxon words of four letters describing quite impossible acts of physicality offered as suggestions or in reaction to the players in actualities of the day. I believe it's the best overview of the events that will lead to HRC's indictment and hope you will take time to read and comment.

I am fairly certain no indictment will come for Hillary until after she has won the Presidency. And it won't matter at that point.... they will just say the white male establishment is anti-female.

I mean with thinking like the below, anything conjurers think of can come to fruition.



ME GENERATION

06.07.16 12:00 AM ET


The Craziest Demands of College Kids in 2016

No grades, no Shakespeare, and no students of different stripes—welcome to campus insanity in 2016.
“We have spoken. We are speaking. Pay attention.”

So said Yale University students to the faculty of the English department, perfectly encapsulating the attitude of the college activist in 2016. Students at campuses across the country are demanding—not asking, but demanding—fundamental changes to their education.

Sometimes, change is good, and these kids deserve to be heard. But the demands of student activists have increasingly taken an Orwellian bent—and, if met, would eviscerate the free speech rights of faculty members, campus visitors, and even other students.




Here are some of the craziest recent demands of liberal student activists this year.

Abolish English Classes that Feature White Male Poets

Yale activists who told the faculty, “We have spoken. We are speaking. Pay attention,” had a very specific demand: they wanted to purge the English department of its colonialist course offerings by restructuring classes focused on white male poets.

Yale English majors are required to take a two-course sequence on the eight great poets of English literature: Geoffrey Chaucer, Edmund Spenser, William Shakespeare, John Donne, John Milton, Alexander Pope, William Wordsworth, and T.S. Eliot. The problem? These poets are all white men.

“It is unacceptable that a Yale student considering studying English literature might read only white male authors,” wrote student activists in a petition. “The Major English Poets sequences creates a culture that is especially hostile to students of color.”

Yale does offer courses that feature more diverse readings. But the students have to complete the main sequence—on white male authors—first. For the angry students, that’s a problem. Explicitly, they don’t want more “diversity,” according to their petition: they don’t want to learn about so many dead white guys.


Of course, it’s not the English department’s fault that most of the very best poetry was written by wealthy white men. It’s not right, and it isn’t fair, that rich white men dominated Western culture for centuries, but nevertheless, that’s how history happened. Students should feel free to explore how female authors, and authors of color, were mistreated throughout history, but this shouldn’t exempt them from studying Shakespeare.

Implement Segregated Safe Spaces

It’s not just that the curriculum is too white: some students actually resent having to spend so much time surrounded by people who don’t belong to their tribe. Many activists, in fact, have asked their colleges to create segregated safe spaces for students of color, female students, LGBT students, or students of some other identity group.

In another age, such demands would have been ridiculed as racist. Imagine white students seeking to create a separate area for whites only. This effort would be denounced on both moral and legal grounds—there’s this thing called the Civil Rights Act—and rightfully so.

But it’s an increasingly popular demand among far-left student protesters. At the University of Arizona, the Marginalized Students (PDF)—a coalition of self-described oppressed students, including the Latino student association, black student association, Asian student association, LGBT student association, Native American student association, and women’s center—want safe spaces for each unique identity group. The black students, for instance, want a residence hall to themselves.

They are hardly alone. Student-activists at New York University want one floor of a campus building turned over to black students, and another floor given to LGBT students.

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It’s not always clear that non-black students would be welcome in such spaces. Following the protests at the University of Missouri that brought about the ouster of Mizzou President Tim Wolfe, black student activists set up spaces of healing. They specifically asked white students—even those who self-identified as allies—to leave.

Students have the right to segregate themselves into groups, but there’s good reason for universities to avoid creating such spaces by design. A Facebook group that doubled as a safe space for women of color at the Claremont Colleges was anything but safe: several of the female students who frequented the group consistently posted hateful and derogatory comments about people of other genders and races.

Isn’t the point of college to bring people from diverse backgrounds together, rather than keep them apart?

No More Cross-Ethnic Food/Song/Dance/Haircuts

Students have also brought their quixotic Cultural Revolution to the cafeteria, where inauthentic ethnic food is considered a microaggression. At Oberlin College, Asian students complained that the General Tso’s chicken wasn’t up to their standards—a delicious irony, given that the meal was actually standardized in America as a way to introduce Americans to Asian food.

But people on campus have an increasing aversion to cultural intermingling. Some students don’t want white people practicing yoga, others think tequila and sombreros on Cinco de Mayo are offensive, and still others think Hindu chanting should be reserved for Hindus, even when performed with all due respect.

But nothing compares with Bonita Tindle, the irate San Francisco University student who attacked a white man because she objected to his dreadlocks. “It’s my culture,” Tindleexplained.


Police Microaggressions

As the previous examples suggest, there are a great many things that offend college students. But student activists don’t merely want to discourage offensive expression—they want to punish those who engage in it. To that end, student activists around the country seek the power to police microaggressions and discipline those who perpetrate them.

Microaggressions are subtle, bothersome digs based upon the slighted person’s race, gender, sexuality, disability status, orientation, age, or even their size. They are often subconscious—the micro-aggressor doesn’t realize he or she is saying something untoward—and they fall well under the category of protected First Amendment speech on public university campuses.

But students at Western Washington University want the administration to create a 15-person student committee to monitor “racist, anti-black, transphobic, cissexist, misogynistic, ableist, homophobic, Islamophobic, and otherwise oppressive behavior on campus.” No one would be safe: Even tenured faculty members accused of micro-aggressing someone would be subject to formal investigation. As an example of what qualifies as a microaggression in the eyes of these students, they spelled the word “history” with an “x”—as in “hxstory”—because the actual word is too patriarchal (“his” + “story”).

Get Rid of Grades and Tests

Students want far-reaching changes to the curriculum, cultural experience, and tradition of unfettered free speech on campuses. But their most absurd—and transparently self-serving—demand is somewhat mundane: they frequently want grades and tests to be limited, if not done away with entirely.

At Johns Hopkins University, administrators do not count first-semester freshmen’s grades. These students received grades, but they aren’t included on their transcript. The university is phasing out this practice, however, given concerns that it discourages new students from studying as hard as they should.

Student activists are utterly opposed to the new policy. One student, Erica Taicz, accused the administration of worsening her anxiety:

“I’m paying to have a support network, academically and mentally. I can’t be expected to do well in class if I’m depressed and have anxiety. If the school is worsening my anxiety, that’s their problem and they need to be held accountable for that.”

Meanwhile, more than 1,300 Oberlin students signed a petition calling on the college to make “C” the lowest possible grade such that no student would be deemed “below average.” Other students think special accommodations should be made for people who are too depressed, anxious, or triggered to take final exams. One student told The New Yorker that he expected his professors to proactively invite him to office hours to have a conversation about the course material in lieu of a midterm.

If there’s a common theme among these demands, it’s this: the modern college student thinks he or she (or xe) is uniquely oppressed, mistreated, and unsafe. They think a university education is too hostile, triggering, and difficult. They’re paying a great deal of money for this experience, and therefore it should be easy, pleasant, and re-affirming, in their view.

It was once the job of college professors to liberate young people from their delusions about the world in order to better prepare them to succeed in it. But 2016 might be the year the tables turned. Professors and administrators are increasingly caving to their students’ demands out of fear for their own job security.

In other words, there’s little reason to think we’ve reached peak campus insanity.

[santafe2]

Re: Trump to win?

Just a few random thoughts...

ME GENERATION

Excellent, a new generation is getting slapped with our sobriquet.

Students at campuses across the country are demanding—not asking, but demanding—fundamental changes to their education.

Yale English majors are required to take a two-course sequence on the eight great poets of English literature: Geoffrey Chaucer, Edmund Spenser, William Shakespeare, John Donne, John Milton, Alexander Pope, William Wordsworth, and T.S. Eliot. The problem? These poets are all white men.

I agree with them. Toss this British colonial dreck to the curb....

Of course, it’s not the English department’s fault that most of the very best poetry was written by wealthy white men.

That's hilarious. The author has no idea how idiotic that presumption makes him sound. Let me take a wild guess: it's a very white guy and he fakes a British accent to pick up girls.

It’s not just that the curriculum is too white: some students actually resent having to spend so much time surrounded by people who don’t belong to their tribe. Many activists, in fact, have asked their colleges to create segregated safe spaces for students of color, female students, LGBT students, or students of some other identity group.

Sounds like they should support Trump. I think his white tribe wants their own space as well.

Some students don’t want white people practicing yoga...

And wearing yoga pants in public, especially middle aged white people. That makes me completely uncomfortable.

Microaggressions are subtle, bothersome digs based upon the slighted person’s race, gender, sexuality, disability status, orientation, age, or even their size. They are often subconscious—the micro-aggressor doesn’t realize he or she is saying something untoward—and they fall well under the category of protected First Amendment speech on public university campuses.

I find the need to control my speech a micro aggression. It's possible Americans have too much time on their hands.

...spelled “history” with an “x”—as in “hxstory”—because the actual word is too patriarchal (“his” + “story”).

Yes, the word "his-story" is an early Anglo American term with obvious misogynistic overtones but in America we shortened it to the much friendlier term, "hi-story". It's like a greeting. Possibly Canadians are still using the old Anglo term...Hx-story on the other hand is a shortening of the derogatory term hick-story or the history of poor white farmers. This is also completely unacceptable.

“I’m paying to have a support network, academically and mentally. I can’t be expected to do well in class if I’m depressed and have anxiety. If the school is worsening my anxiety, that’s their problem and they need to be held accountable for that.”

I'm fairly sure I mistakenly hired, and then quickly fired, that person.

[dcarrigg]

Re: Trump to win?

Insofar as the campus safe spaces, etc. go, I'll just say this bit and move on:

Yale is every bit a private religious college as Bob Jones or Brigham Young are. It's Congregationalist. Even has a Divinity School.

Now, maybe the pundits think freedom of speech is under attack at Yale. But if they really cared, I mean really cared about freedom of speech on college campuses, they'd start at Bob Jones and Brigham Young, where saying 'fuck' or growing your hair out or having sex or 'race mixing' or talking to another human being at all after midnight (lights out) can still get you expelled or disciplined.

It seems to me the right narrative in 2016 wants it both ways on this one. They want unlimited power to restrict freedom of speech on Southern Baptist and Mormon campuses, but they want to eliminate any and all attempt by students at Catholic or Congregationalist or Lutheran or Northern Baptist campuses.

If they really care about freedom of speech on university campuses, start by bringing it to Bob Jones and Liberty U et all, and let the Yankee elite deal with things their own way.

[jk]

Re: Trump to win?

Insofar as the campus safe spaces, etc. go, I'll just say this bit and move on:

Yale is every bit a private religious college as Bob Jones or Brigham Young are. It's Congregationalist. Even has a Divinity School.

Now, maybe the pundits think freedom of speech is under attack at Yale. But if they really cared, I mean really cared about freedom of speech on college campuses, they'd start at Bob Jones and Brigham Young, where saying 'fuck' or growing your hair out or having sex or 'race mixing' or talking to another human being at all after midnight (lights out) can still get you expelled or disciplined.

It seems to me the right narrative in 2016 wants it both ways on this one. They want unlimited power to restrict freedom of speech on Southern Baptist and Mormon campuses, but they want to eliminate any and all attempt by students at Catholic or Congregationalist or Lutheran or Northern Baptist campuses.

If they really care about freedom of speech on university campuses, start by bringing it to Bob Jones and Liberty U et all, and let the Yankee elite deal with things their own way.

people around yale say that to get into the yale divinity school you need a 98.6

body temperature.

i think the ultra-pure, micro-aggession-avoiding, tender-feeling-sparing, trigger-warning-issuing, utterly puritanical and censorious left is the mirror image of the in your face anti-political-correctness trump supporters. i dislike both groups, myself.

but if i were a factory worker who'd been laid off and maybe now was flipping burgers or doing something else that paid less than half the money, i wouldn't have much patience for someone telling me to check my privilege.

these kids with their "demands" don't seem to understand they are among the most privileged people in the world: warm, well fed, properly housed, [that already puts them ahead of billions] and at an elite institution that will pave their way to an enormous range of bountiful choices for their lives.

there's something very funny about their complaints. they're as sensitive as the girl in the story, the princess and the pea.

there was a brouhaha at yale last fall, when the administration asked students not to wear costumes that might offend some groups, and a faculty member sent an email around saying perhaps people could wear whatever they wished, and if someone was offended they could actually talk to each other about it. imagine that! well, that was seen as tremendously offensive. i saw a video of a girl screaming at that faculty member that this was her home! she wanted a safe place! and i thought that the university is a big institution with many members and constituencies, and a place that people come to interact and learn by interacting with one another. isn't that the point?

any place that might present you with a new idea is, by definition, NOT a safe place.

this is not by any means disagreeing with your points about right wing indoctrination centers. but i hate that places like yale get pushed towards being left wing indoctrination centers. let a hundred flowers bloom, let a hundred schools of thought contend, as mao said. [of course a decade later he launched the cultural revolution, when most of those flowers were stomped and the teachers in those various schools of thought were sent to the countryside for re-education, but still....]

[Woodsman]

Re: Trump to win?

Insofar as the campus safe spaces, etc. go, I'll just say this bit and move on...

A rich man's trick. Deny that there is or can ever be a working class. People are only to be viewed through the prism of identity politics.

Two category errors follow:

1. The “white working class” is deemed to be racist and can be safely ignored.
2. The non-white working class is erased.

As a consequence it becomes impossible to think through the universal effects of the FIRE sector on the working class, nor its differential effects on particular working class identities. This is not an accident.

Or as I said in an earlier post, trading class-politics for ass-politics didn't turn out so well.

[jk]

Re: Trump to win?

it's an american conceit that we don't have classes in our society. identity is then all that's left to struggle over, and given our foundation in slavery there's no denying the existence of identity issues.

[Woodsman]

Re: Trump to win?

I was surprised by the margin of victory. I think there are enough older Dems, Hispanics and black folks in CA to assure victory. Bernie never made a lot of headway into those demographic areas. As for the AP pole, if you think there's something hinky going on, there probably is.

There's hinky and then there's RICO.

Moments after the Associated Press made their announcement on Monday, June 6, Hillary’s campaign sent out an email to their supporters acknowledging the AP announcement. But in a move reminiscent of Politburo screw-ups, the image in the Hillary Clinton email had this file name: “secret-win-V2-060416c_02.png.” The date embedded in the file name suggested to Sanders’ supporters that on June 4, 2016, two days before the AP went public with their survey of secret superdelegates, the Hillary Clinton campaign knew about this coming announcement from AP and had given it a code name of “Secret Win.”

At 9:34 p.m. Eastern Time on June 6, Christina Bellantoni, a political reporter for the Los Angeles Times, Tweeted a screen shot of the email from Clinton with text stating that “The images in this Clinton email are labeled ‘secret win.’ ” That unleashed a flurry of accusations which are still escalating by the minute.

Wednesday, June 8: Insults against AP and corporate media are being hurled at a#OccupyAP Twitter page; the story is spreading across media venues, including mainstream media.

Snopes took a look at the controversy and makes this conclusion: “It is true that the Twitter video’s claims checked out. The campaign’s e-mail was sent out after the 6 June 2016 call by Associated Press, and the embedded image was ambiguously titled ‘secret-win-V2-060416c_02.png’ But ‘V2’ implied at least two versions of the graphic existed, another of which might have shown an entirely different outcome to the 7 June 2016 primaries.”

The AP controversy is being fed further by outraged voters in California’s primary yesterday who are reporting that many new voters were not on the voter rolls, that thousands were given provisional ballots which have not been included in the current count, that polls opened late and some had broken machines.

http://wallstreetonparade.com/2016/06/sanders-supporters-claim-clinton-campaign-and-ap-engaged-in-a-conspiracy-complete-with-a-secret-win-code-name/

With the Sanders supporters having been successfully other-ed as a non-Democrat, Democrat officialdom felt licensed to throw every small institutional obstacle in their way, opportunistically. From purging voter rolls of likely Sanders supporters, ballot gaming large and small, shrinking the number of polling places, long lines, no parking, deceptive signage, and so forth, these small obstacles add up to election fraud the old-fashioned way, with some high tech propaganda action by the AP.

That’s not to say that Sanders would have won; it is to say that our election apparatus is irremediably corrupt and should be brought up to world standards by removing it entirely from partisan control. Lets return to hand-marked paper ballots, hand-counted, in public, for a start. In France, election polls are banned on polling day and the day before.” The United States should follow these civilized countries and do the same.

[thriftyandboringinohio]

Re: Trump to win?

... Lets return to hand-marked paper ballots, hand-counted, in public, for a start.....

This video is making the rounds at Bernie-centric websites.
It claims to be from Alameda County CA on election day.
Emphasis on "claims"

[jk]

Re: Trump to win?

. From purging voter rolls of likely Sanders supporters, ballot gaming large and small, shrinking the number of polling places, long lines, no parking, deceptive signage, and so forth, these small obstacles add up to election fraud the old-fashioned way, with some high tech propaganda action by the AP.

i thought only republicans did that, especially to minority voters. [where's a "rolleyes" emoji?]

[lektrode]

Re: Trump to win?

it's an american conceit that we don't have classes in our society. identity is then all that's left to struggle over, and given our foundation in slavery there's no denying the existence of identity issues.

oh puh-leeeeze, jk - this revisionist history meme really does get old.

when i became an 'aware' kid - that would be sometime in the late 60's into the 70's -- in my humble observation, The US was NOT a 'class-bound' society in them days - at least it didnt appear to me to be, nor any of my (public) schoolmates - and the town - in MA - that i grew up in - was VERY 'multi-cultural' - and not that i grew up 'rich' - altho my ole man was self-employed - but was 1st gen American of irish ancestry (and i WILL NOT APOLOGIZE AND WILL NOT even consider 'paying reparations' - nor feel guilty for being a white man! - if the douchebags in the DNC really want a 'revolution' ???
heheheheh.... just let hitlery even mention that GD word and there'll be 'social unrest' that will make the 1st civil war look like the good ole days..)

but the very concept of this one: 'given our foundation in slavery' is purely revisionist (not to mention INFLAMATORY) - slavery had existed since the time of the pharaohs of egypt, who's 'servants' built the pyramids and was brought to 'the new world' by the settlers of jamestown VA - most of whom were british crown loyalists!
(and NONE of whom were EVER part of my family tree - and no, i'm not quite bragging...)

so, if you wouldnt mind - just drop the BS 'white guilt trip' already - would you PLEASE, sir - as i genl'y have the utmost respect for your POV and insight/intellect.

We, The People of The USA did not 'invent slavery' and the only reason it arrived in 'the new world' was because
THE BRITISH CROWN LOYALISTS BROUGHT IT WITH THEM - as it was 'traditional and culturally appropriate' for THEM, due to their BS concepts of 'heredity, class, entitlement and identity with royalty' - nothing more, nothing less.

i would argue that the very identity of 'America' - since its inception - was as far removed from those BS concepts as the now long-gone 'classless society' that The US has abandoned (thanks mostly to the 'identity politix' of the DNC douchebags since the 60's - 70's - but in particular since the 1st clintonian reign of terror)

There's hinky and then there's RICO.

With the Sanders supporters having been successfully other-ed as a non-Democrat, Democrat officialdom felt licensed to throw every small institutional obstacle in their way, opportunistically. From purging voter rolls of likely Sanders supporters, ballot gaming large and small, shrinking the number of polling places, long lines, no parking, deceptive signage, and so forth, these small obstacles add up to election fraud the old-fashioned way, with some high tech propaganda action by the AP.

That’s not to say that Sanders would have won; it is to say that our election apparatus is irremediably corrupt and should be brought up to world standards by removing it entirely from partisan control. Lets return to hand-marked paper ballots, hand-counted, in public, for a start. In France, election polls are banned on polling day and the day before.” The United States should follow these civilized countries and do the same.

and then, 'just like that' ?

bernie folds:
Sanders says he’ll work with Clinton to defeat Trump

wonder what the 'fraudster in chief' bought him off with....

Sanders Vows to Compete in Primary, Then Fight Trump

Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders vowed to compete in the final primary on Tuesday, after meeting with President Obama. He also said he will meet with Hillary Clinton on how they can work to defeat Donald Trump.

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