Trump to win?

[Woodsman]

Re: Trump to win?

How about a full pardon contingent on public service as a Foreign Service officer?

If it turns out she loses, Obummer will give her one contingent that the poor girl has suffered enough. Podesta, et. al. not so much.

[jk]

Re: Trump to win?

the 3 disparate wings of the democratic party
Hillary Clinton’s Juggling Act

[santafe2]

Re: Trump to win?

the 3 disparate wings of the democratic party
Hillary Clinton’s Juggling Act

This article didn't seem thoughtful or well organized jk. The author begins by grouping Dems in 3 areas, globalists, (Rockefeller Republicans), "underdog" minority wing, (that's almost as bad as Trump making black folk and inner city synonymous), and organized labor. That might be half of her support. I'm sure she has other constituencies but somehow he missed Millennials until he found time to characterize them as "idealistic" and "anti-business". I know a lot of Millennial Bernie supporters and I would characterize most of them as very realistic and none of them as anti-business. They're just tired of this trickle up nonsense. While Bernie was only my safety vote if he beat HRC, I can't be critical of young people who think Bernie could have turned the corner on this long term trend.

Millennials are a huge voting block for HRC. Only one state, West Virginia, is solidly in the Trump camp with 54% of WV Millennials indicating they will vote for Trump. He has a 29% advantage there. No surprise, HRC has been very open about shutting down coal. He's also winning the Millennial vote in 8 other states but only by an average margin of 5.6%. He doesn't have 50% support in any of those states. Clinton on the other hand is winning the Millennial vote in 40 states, (there's a tie in one state). Her average margin of victory is 24%. The great majority of young people in the US hate Trump. He stands for everything they are against.

If Millennials turn out to vote, the angry old white guys will lose. If they don't turn out, they may wish they had.

[santafe2]

Re: Trump to win?

That's not his core message and never was.

Um…sure. This is why his campaign CEO is the white nationalist Steve Bannon, the guy who runs Breitbart.com.

Before there was Bannon, there was the sick but talented, Breitbart himself who Matt Taibbi addressed upon his untimely but much appreciated death: “So Andrew Breitbart is dead. Here’s what I have to say to that, and I’m sure Breitbart himself would have respected this reaction: Good! Fuck him. I couldn’t be happier that he’s dead.”

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics...ouche-20120301

Bannon isn’t as talented a douche as Breitbart, but he’s just as big a racist, misogynist, anti-Semite, white nationalist. Trump could hire the entire KKK, (who’ve endorsed him by the way), and you’d still have your old white guy sun shades on.

Enjoy the stories you tell yourself. There is a new generation taking over this country and while you may not like it, women also do have the vote. I’m with them. Clearly, you are not. Your position is massively supported by white people with little education and by older white men. That is your demographic. Your argument may sound strong here in the old white guy echo chamber but when we break down voting by demographic groups it’s clear there are only two groups massively backing Trump; undereducated white guys, (“I love the poorly educated”), and old, white, guys.

This election is, I hope, the last horrible gasp of Jim Crow.

[santafe2]

Re: Trump to win?

Voters are being purged in record numbers in North Carolina. I'm sure it's just chance but almost all of them are black Dems.

"At an emergency hearing Wednesday in Winston-Salem, a federal judge called the state's process for challenging voter registrations "insane" and "something that was put together in 1901," according to the Associated Press."

The Feds will be in North Carolina observing precincts. George Wallace rises, as I said, hopefully for the last time.

http://www.fayobserver.com/news/elec...3db6e8ce5.html

The above is one of many stories covering this issue.

[bpr]

Re: Trump to win?

Voters are being purged in record numbers in North Carolina. I'm sure it's just chance but almost all of them are black Dems.

Not just NC:

https://www.thenation.com/article/go...voting-rights/

[bpr]

Re: Trump to win?

Imagine if a group of FBI agents were leaking damaging information on Donald Trump in violation of longstanding departmental policy, and it turned out that they were basing their innuendo on a book published by the Center for American Progress, which Clinton campaign chair John Podesta founded and used to run. Republicans would be crying bloody murder, and I’m pretty sure the entire news media would be backing them up every step of the way.

And please, spare me any explanations for this phenomenon that rely on how “divided” Americans are. Are we divided? Sure. But there’s only one party that is so vigorously undermining core democratic institutions in this way. You may not like what Democrats stand for, but they aren’t engaging in widespread official vote suppression, chanting that should their candidate win her opponent should be tossed in jail, promising to prevent any Republican president from filling vacancies on the Supreme Court, suggesting that they’ll try to impeach their opponent as soon as he takes office, cheering when a hostile foreign power hacks into American electronic systems, and trying to use the FBI to win the election.Only one party is doing all of that. And we should all be very worried about what Republicans will do after November 8, whether they win or lose.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...ld-be-immense/

[Woodsman]

Re: Trump to win?

Um…sure. This is why his campaign CEO is the white nationalist Steve Bannon, the guy who runs Breitbart.com...

I know the cognitive dissonance of having a Donald Trump (Donald Friggin' Trump!) fight the "smartest person in the world" to a draw must be excruciating to suffer. That on top of the fact that he's doing it against the headwind of the combined resources of the DNC machine (and even his own party), the news and entertainment media, and seemingly the whole of the establishment nomeklatura, well that must be so maddening and infuriating. I mean, it's Donald Trump? WTF? This was not supposed to happen!

Being human, I too might resort to palliative fantasies as you and others have adopted. Although I'm sure I would have picked something a bit more convincing than calling him a Klansman and Putin's favorite spy.

Does the irony of the Democratic Party - whose primary cheating and round-the-clock collusion with so-called objective parties was writ large the entire season by Wikileaks - register here at all among the Clintonistas? And the WaPo article complaining about "total war" against a candidate (written by a Democrat on the David Brock/DNC payroll, no less), now that's some chutzpah!

Pull the other one, fellas. You've hit the comedy motherlode!

[Woodsman]

Re: Trump to win?

"Um…sure ... white nationalist Steve Bannon, the guy who runs Breitbart.com...sick ... death ... dead ... Fuck ... dead ... racist, misogynist, anti-Semite, white nationalist ... KKK ... old white guy... white people with little education and by older white men ... old white guy ... undereducated white guys, (“I love the poorly educated”), and old, white, guys ... Jim Crow."

And so it goes.

[Jam]

Re: Trump to win?

@stantafe2
Wait, are you saying the election is rigged?

[lektrode]

Re: Trump to win?

@stantafe2
Wait, are you saying the election is rigged?

nah... he's just parroting the DNC aparatchik party line.

it goes something like this:

as long as the hillamonster murmurs the soothing words - or propaganda, depending on one's POV -
you know, that the 'social justice worriers' and 'identity politix' crowd
(all suckers for the biggest con in US history) are listening & agitating for?

they and all the crony capitalists - like santafe - since he's already identified himself STAUNCHLY as
a CRONY CAPITALIST

like, how so - in case you might've missed it ?

HE WAS IN THE ALTERNATIVE ENERGY/SOLAR BIZ - until just recently, apparently (from his own words)
until he moved into the 'healthcare/medical sector' - which is where THE REAL MONEY IS...now, that is - like...

after 'they had to pass it to see what was in it' ???

and so, as long as hitlery murmers those soothing words,
like 'marriage' rights, 'bathroom' rights for the gender-confused, 'the war against women', etc ad nauseum ?

all of the 'with her' crowd

which ARE the REAL 'low info voters' (or are HIGHLY CONNECTED DEMS)

will back her to the hilt

never mind how those 'with her' f__ked-over bernie, IN PURELY RIGGED
AND FRAUDULENT 'elections' (which makes bernie a patsy/chump for endorsing her)

never mind how much she gets for private audience speeches for golden slacks, citi-swank, jpmorgue
and the rest of TBTF inc, aka the 'financial-fraud industrial complex'

along with 'working class heros'
like jorge soros that 'donate' 100's of MILLIONS to the so-called clinton 'charitable' foundation

which pays out 90% of the take in salaries & 1st class expenses to all of the DNC party apaRATchix it 'employs'

and never mind how obozocare has caused the entire med-insurance fraud-industrial complex
to WIPE OUT THE JOB MARKET FOR ANYBODY OVER FIFTY!??

nah... santa would never think 'the election is rigged'

unless, of course - the donald actually wins - then...

it'll be all putin's fault ??

AS IF nothing the FBI has turned up suggests that the entire 'investigation' was rigged
and NOTHING BUT pure DEMORAT POLITICAL MEDIA-SPIN

AND ALL OF IT, 'courtesy of' the holder-overs within the dept of juice-tess,
all of whom are beholden to OR EMPLOYED DIRECTLY-BY the CCC (clinton criminal conspiracy)

purely ala the movie
WAG THE DOG

[santafe2]

Re: Trump to win?

I know the cognitive dissonance of having a Donald Trump (Donald Friggin' Trump!) fight the "smartest person in the world" to a draw must be excruciating to suffer. That on top of the fact that he's doing it against the headwind of the combined resources of the DNC machine (and even his own party), the news and entertainment media, and seemingly the whole of the establishment nomeklatura, well that must be so maddening and infuriating. I mean, it's Donald Trump? WTF? This was not supposed to happen!

Apparently a faction of the good old white boys at the FBI are heading up "Trumpland" and reading alt-right, (white nationalist), propaganda and using that nonsense as a starting point for their "investigation" of HRC. The book; "Clinton Cash", written by Peter Schweizer is reported to be the source these alt-right fascists in the FBI are using as their source material.

Schweizer is also the president of the Government Accountability Institute (GAI). The co-founder of GAI is...wait for it...this is pretty funny...even the clan might scratch their little heads...Steve Bannon. Maybe you've heard of him.

So the Russian government, the FBI, (and it now appears, up to and including the director), and the alt right are all working together to take down HRC.

Y'all must be so proud of the company you keep.

[touchring]

Re: Trump to win?

So it's true that Trump will win? Unless there is rigging, but even rigging will only work if the difference is low <1%, otherwise it will be too obvious. From the look of it, Trump will win by 3-4% margin.

So FBI James Comey obviously knows things the public don't so he decides to get onto the right side?

[santafe2]

Re: Trump to win?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...ld-be-immense/

You are of course right but don't expect any support here on iTulip's old white boy network. There was a black guy elected as president, twice. This board hates him. The economy has moved forward fairly well in spite of Republican obstructionism but they hate him. It's not racism of course, these Jim Crow bastards just hate him....well, because.

The new fearless leader they hope to elect is the racist leader of the Birther movement. Now they have to face the idea of a woman leading the country. Imagine their angst if their misogynistic leader loses and they can no longer "just grab [women] by the pussy". Disgusting.

They're showing a lot of bravado this week as they still think they can Make America White Again, subjugate women again and continue to demean anyone who doesn't fit their ideal of America with white guys in charge.

These people hate modern America. Look at the voting demographics. Old white guys and under educated white people. That is Trump's base and apparently it's also iTulip's base.

I've been somewhat surprised that no one else on this thread has championed this position, HRC will make a good president. The country and the ROW can continue to move forward.

Here's a few minutes of DJT in case anyone has forgotten what a complete ass the iTulip-sphere will apparently be voting for:

[santafe2]

Re: Trump to win?

So it's true that Trump will win?

It seems unlikely. There will be additional issues after the election as this candidate only respects himself and has no respect for our system of government. His supporters are of the same mind. I've said it before, we're still fighting the Civil War in the US. I don't think people outside the US get this. We look like a bunch of idiots letting such a complete Neanderthal, (sorry folks with some Neanderthal heritage), have a chance to run the largest economic power in the world.

If HRC wins on Tuesday, this issue of white privilege and especially male white privilege is not going to be put on the back burner in the US after the election. It feels like there's a showdown coming. Woody was talking earlier in this thread about the 2nd Amendment and gun rights. In the US that's white guy code for killing people they disagree with unless those people get in line.

Electing a woman as president in the US will only be the next step in a long journey. I've no expectation it will be easy.