How many assault rifles at the next presidential event?

[blazespinnaker]

Is it me, or does anyone else see a ratcheting up of aggression here?

Will we see the president avoiding states with open-carrying laws?

Can the secret service force people within a certain distance to not carry guns?

How long before one of these things accidentially goes off?

Crazy times..

token link:
http://news.google.ca/news/url?sa=t&...otest.rifle%2F

[flintlock]

Re: How many assault rifles at the next presidential event?

Yeah, that sort of thing would have been unheard of in the past.

[Verrocchio]

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Crazy, indeed. The display of dangerous weapons marks a dangerous drift toward a politics of violence.

[MulaMan]

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Is it me, or does anyone else see a ratcheting up of aggression here?

Just Republicans pumping up the extremist base through Fox News fear mongering to the Ann Rand cult crowd.

"War on Terror"
"War on Drugs"
"War on Evolution"
...
... same same

"War on Decmocracy" ? That would make Karl Rove happy, so that we can turn America into a true dictatorship once and for all.

The Montana Militia should be getting geared up again any day now...remember those middle aged, overwieght, white guys shooting off rifles on the farm...I always wondered where they disapeared too after Bush got elected

[jtabeb]

Re: How many assault rifles at the next presidential event?

Is it me, or does anyone else see a ratcheting up of aggression here?

Will we see the president avoiding states with open-carrying laws?

Can the secret service force people within a certain distance to not carry guns?

How long before one of these things accidentially goes off?

Crazy times..

token link:
http://news.google.ca/news/url?sa=t&...otest.rifle%2F

Apparently, the NH guy had links to white supremacist groups on his myspace page. (Sorry, I'll look for a confimation, I just heard a blip on the news).

As a gun owner, I agree that with whom ever said here someplace that a firearm is the LAST defense against tyrrany, NOT THE FIRST!!!

[grapejelly]

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I legally carry a gun everywhere and don't want the government telling me I can't. In Virginia you can carry a gun into the state capitol building or a public meeting and I think this is very sensible.

[metalman]

Re: How many assault rifles at the next presidential event?

how to turn the public against gun ownership... bring guns to public political rallies.

want more restrictive gun laws? keep bringing guns to rallies, idiots!

[GRG55]

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I legally carry a gun everywhere and don't want the government telling me I can't. In Virginia you can carry a gun into the state capitol building or a public meeting and I think this is very sensible.

Sounds like Nirvana alright...:rolleyes:

[grapejelly]

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Sounds like Nirvana alright...:rolleyes:

it's illegal to brandish or threaten people with a gun, BTW

[GRG55]

Re: How many assault rifles at the next presidential event?

...As a gun owner, I agree that with whom ever said here someplace that a firearm is the LAST defense against tyrrany, NOT THE FIRST!!!

Couldn't agree more.

Seems the "gun thing" is just one manifestation on a spectrum of growing civil backlash against the Government. I think the town hall meeting behaviour, public protests against health care, "tea parties", deliberate defaulting on debt, and gun & ammunition sales are USA society variations of the riots in Greece last summer, the "Eat the Bankers" protests in London, & other forms of recent civil demonstrations in the developed economies.

Given the global [non-FIRE] Production economy is tanking, people now seem very resentful of the previously tolerated universal bailout of the global financial sector. Hardly anybody other than financial and political insiders are willing to accept current policy direction. If people can't change things peacefully there is risk they try to change them violently.

On the other hand, if people decide they are powerless, they don't try to bring about change within the system, nor do they try to overthrow the system. They just drop out. I expect the underground economy is going to blossom for years to come. If you have lost your job and don't have any income then you have to find alternate ways to provide for yourself. If large numbers of people find themselves in this situation [and certainly that is the case in many countries already] then a burgeoning economy that works without cash income develops. What happens if people deliberately decide to participate in that economy simply because they do not wish to be taxed on their income or transactions? That's the real danger from the "tea parties".

Edit Added: Obama's "Change" election campaign held great appeal to those that felt powerless within the system. Watching what's going on from across the northern border, I very much am under the impression that the US public feel this Administration's change credentials have been squandered in a remarkably short period of time...and the President's personal change credentials are not far behind. The implications of a collapse in confidence in the national Administration are rather disturbing...and I don't even live in that country.

[jtabeb]

Re: How many assault rifles at the next presidential event?

Edit Added: Obama's "Change" election campaign held great appeal to those that felt powerless within the system. Watching what's going on from across the northern border, I very much am under the impression that the US public feel this Administration's change credentials have been squandered in a remarkably short period of time...and the President's personal change credentials are not far behind. The implications of a collapse in confidence in the national Administration are rather disturbing...and I don't even live in that country.

CHANGE! (You can make-believe in)

[blazespinnaker]

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Amusing theory going around.... assault rifle carrying protesters are democrat plants. I certainly could believe that one..

[flintlock]

Re: How many assault rifles at the next presidential event?

how to turn the public against gun ownership... bring guns to public political rallies.

want more restrictive gun laws? keep bringing guns to rallies, idiots!

I agree metalman. Here in GA that kind of display at a public event would not be legal.

The gun toters being plants does make a little sense when you think about it. But believe me, there are plenty of nuts out there who are into guns in a "ahem", unhealthy way.

This is coming from a licensed carry guy. I have a pretty substantial gun collection but even I think a lot of kooks are out there these days with guns. I don't even like going into gun shops or shooting ranges anymore there are so many losers hanging about.

Ditto, what Jtabeb said.

[Rantly McTirade]

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Folks carried guns at political rallies-and all kinds of events-in the 19th century. Not much happened, maybe because it was a heavy majority
that had guns. Or maybe it was because politicos were less hungry for
power and less likely to believe themselves as something akin to a king or
emperor. In the last century, only Eisenhower, and perhaps Coolidge, generally seemed to be void of such illusions. As to whatever links NH guy
had on a website, so what(and just who is making the claims and doing the categorizing). He was obeying the laws of his local and state government. The uncomfortable little secret is the 2nd Amendment was thought of to ensure the citizenry's ability to fight off, and overthrow(as in how this nation first came into being), an oppressive central state.

[jmdpet]

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This Salon article covers his MySpace page:

http://www.salon.com/opinion/walsh/p...lliam_kostric/