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  • Is VW trying too hard to match TESLA ?

    "Hans is ve build Q a match for Tesla?"
    "Ya, Willie, Tesla buyers expect crappy build Q!"

    https://insideevs.com/news/443245/ge...bashes-vw-id3/

    Mike

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    Re: Is VW trying too hard to match TESLA ?

    Originally posted by Mega View Post
    "Hans is ve build Q a match for Tesla?"
    "Ya, Willie, Tesla buyers expect crappy build Q!"

    https://insideevs.com/news/443245/ge...bashes-vw-id3/

    Mike
    My parents purchased their first of many Mercedes in the 1970’s, a 190D.

    A very well built, durable, and economical diesel.

    Which meant no queues for buying petrol.

    Being car nuts we often visited dealerships and I recall how incredibly well engineered and built the 1st two generations of S class Mercedes cars were.

    Truly built to last.

    When our first was born I bought my wife a 2nd hand S class that was considered to be the safest car on the road(at the time), but despite its over the top safety and security, durability and longevity we’re already beginning to take a back seat with a fast growing number of significant engineering vulnerabilities that went against previous brand character.

    Automotive platform lifecycles collapsed, compelling R&D and supply chain amortisation to be applied over fewer units/years, leading to lower quality engineering and component quality.

    And in an increasing number of industries, particularly digital products, prototype quality is being sold and improved later(if ever) if the product succeeds and scales.

    The term technical debt describes software that is superficially just good enough to meet the minimum feature/benefit/value proposition.

    Underneath the surface, it can be a horrific gordion knot.

    Refactoring technical debt is the fancy software engineering terminology for no longer kicking the proverbial can down the road, and finally engineering, manufacturing, and paying for the right can.

    We live in a society that possesses an overwhelming amount of technical debt in need of refactoring.

    It’s not just auto manufacturers playing with EVs, it’s most things.

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      Re: Is VW trying too hard to match TESLA ?

      Originally posted by lakedaemonian View Post
      My parents purchased their first of many Mercedes in the 1970’s, a 190D.

      A very well built, durable, and economical diesel.

      Which meant no queues for buying petrol.

      Being car nuts we often visited dealerships and I recall how incredibly well engineered and built the 1st two generations of S class Mercedes cars were.

      Truly built to last.

      When our first was born I bought my wife a 2nd hand S class that was considered to be the safest car on the road(at the time), but despite its over the top safety and security, durability and longevity we’re already beginning to take a back seat with a fast growing number of significant engineering vulnerabilities that went against previous brand character.

      Automotive platform lifecycles collapsed, compelling R&D and supply chain amortisation to be applied over fewer units/years, leading to lower quality engineering and component quality.

      And in an increasing number of industries, particularly digital products, prototype quality is being sold and improved later(if ever) if the product succeeds and scales.

      The term technical debt describes software that is superficially just good enough to meet the minimum feature/benefit/value proposition.

      Underneath the surface, it can be a horrific gordion knot.

      Refactoring technical debt is the fancy software engineering terminology for no longer kicking the proverbial can down the road, and finally engineering, manufacturing, and paying for the right can.

      We live in a society that possesses an overwhelming amount of technical debt in need of refactoring.

      It’s not just auto manufacturers playing with EVs, it’s most things.
      Wow!

      Perfect timing.

      This just popped up in the Tesla Owners forum:

      https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/thre...odel-y.205922/

      We live in an MVP society.

      Not just Most Valuable Player earning most of everything.

      But also Minimum Viable Prototype product offerings.

      Early adopters as test users, like Kickstarter Crowdfunding writ large.

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        Re: Is VW trying too hard to match TESLA ?

        Colin Chapman (Lotus cars) used to say (privately) that his 1st-3rd year customers where there to finish the R+D process

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          Re: Is VW trying too hard to match TESLA ?

          Telsa has been an R+D project for Toyota, Panisoinc has given them the data!
          Mike

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