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  • What Jesus fails to appreciate is that it's the meek who are the problem.

    Remember the film "Life of Brian"?
    Reg, leader of the PFJ went to hear Jesus talk & made a very pro-found observation:-
    "What Jesus fails to appreciate is that it's the meek who are the problem."

    I been thinking a lot about this, i thought about how if only the people would RISE up....we sort these F*ckers in a weekend. Very, very few revolutions are every sucessful. There are odd ones, Cuba, Iran etc....but i wonder more & more what makes a revolution?

    Great leader?............Che failed, i think he thought a dirt poor people would rise up to surport a middle-class bloke like him...........NO!.........they were too busy being dirt poor. No i come the conclusion that unless they are fresh out of Food (or food stamps) there is little chance of an up rising........

    So, too the great masses i say this.........F*ck you, infact DOUBLE F*CK you with knobs on.........
    Cheers
    Mega

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    Re: What Jesus fails to appreciate is that it's the meek who are the problem.

    I do not think it is as easy as that. We live in a system where 'oppression' comes just as much from the people above you as it does from those around and below you. It isn't as simple as being a serf was and seeing your feudal master lording over you. Your neighbors who help to elect that politician who negatively impacts you are just as culpable as he is. I think it is the whole system itself where everyone is trying to get a larger and larger slice of the pie, but the pie is only big enough to support a fixed amount. Someone is always winning, someone is always losing. Everyone has a stake in keeping the system up to maintain their slice, too.

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    • #3
      Re: What Jesus fails to appreciate is that it's the meek who are the problem.

      It is the food stamps. You are absolutely right, Mike.

      People will not rise up if they, and especially their children, are not starving. It is only when people have nothing to lose, they consider these options.

      In the United States, the government has done well with this. Heck, we grow more food than even our cars, cattle, and people need. If things get bad, those in power will just tweak the gasoline formula to have less ethanol. This will make fuel cheaper and corn more plentiful. It will be quick, easy, and cheap. The only ones who will scream foul are a few largely hated agribusinesses.

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      • #4
        Re: What Jesus fails to appreciate is that it's the meek who are the problem.

        You've confused meekness with timidity.
        Jesus was meek, so was Ghandi, so was Martin Luther King. Neither was afraid to speak power to truth and not back down; each paid with his life, yet each had a dramatic and lasting positive impact on our world and each is remembered in high esteem (at least by most)
        Meekness is the virtue to the vice of wrath.
        What you're referring to is ignorance, sloth and cowardice.

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        • #5
          Re: What Jesus fails to appreciate is that it's the meek who are the problem.

          They tried to lead......with some sucess..........but i am trying to understand what is factor "X"......Fidel Castro has it, some sort of leadership skill....a way of contecting with the mass of the people. I am not pointing the finger at anyone, in fact i am shocked at my own reaction.........in 1981 i was in the Liverpool riots.......yet that young rebellious man would not belive that he become what he hated to most....fat bald rightwing coward..........but i did & i am........strangly at ease with it as well.
          Mike

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          • #6
            Re: What Jesus fails to appreciate is that it's the meek who are the problem.

            Its there:-


            Yet, its not

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            • #7
              Re: What Jesus fails to appreciate is that it's the meek who are the problem.



              We need a "Basic Platform" as well (1.25 in)
              Mike

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              • #8
                Re: What Jesus fails to appreciate is that it's the meek who are the problem.

                Originally posted by vinoveri View Post
                You've confused meekness with timidity.
                Jesus was meek, so was Ghandi, so was Martin Luther King. Neither was afraid to speak power to truth and not back down; each paid with his life, yet each had a dramatic and lasting positive impact on our world and each is remembered in high esteem (at least by most)
                Meekness is the virtue to the vice of wrath.
                What you're referring to is ignorance, sloth and cowardice.
                Fantastic post, thank you!

                Be kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle.

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                • #9
                  Re: What Jesus fails to appreciate is that it's the meek who are the problem.

                  Originally posted by Mega View Post
                  with knobs on.........
                  With knobs on. Heh, Heh! I like that :-)

                  Food stamps for sure. And unemployment checks. And low-income housing vouchers. People dependent on the gov't for their survival won't bite the hand that feeds them. They will bite the business owners that employ the workers who pay the taxes that go to that feed them.

                  People tied to mortgage and car payments won't take to the streets. Getting arrested could make them miss work and lose their jobs, which could make them default on their payments and lose their home or car. They'd also lose their lousy health insurance which they need. That is not an accident. Neither is the American Dream of universal home ownership and buying a new car every few years. Debt and dependency keeps people too busy, too exhausted and too afraid to protest.

                  Seniors on Social Security and Medicare aren't going to rise up in revolution.

                  Lots of unemployed 18-30 year-old men could do it, so they make up wars, turn them into soldiers and send them overseas. It's too dangerous to bring them back because not only would they be unemployed, but now they also know how to shoot, so they keep the wars going endlessly.

                  Who else is there? Students. Serfs burdened with massive debt before they even get their first post-graduation job at MacDonalds. That should make them furious, but they're not educated well enough to know who the real enemies are (FIRE) to protest effectively. As long as they can live with their parents and have the newest i-gadget they're contented enough.

                  That leaves the bottom 9/10 of the top 1%. Doctors, lawyers and business owners. They're comfortable and too busy working to protest. Besides, the bottom 99% has been taught to hate and distrust them.

                  Now we're left with the top 1/10 of the top 1%. They aren't going to protest because they're FIRE! They're making money hand over fist. Just before the music stops they'll fly off to their private floaty islands and have drinks with umbrellas in them while we pick through the wreckage.

                  To complete the control of the bottom 99.9% getting screwed by FIRE:

                  Feed them depleted junk food until they're obese, keep their beer cheap, give them lots of "Reality TV" and social media to keep them entertained, make sure that "Education" fails to educate, prescribe antidepressants to millions of people who don't need them (23% of women in their 40s and 50s take antidepressants!), and make almost everyone else dependent on Rx medication for some malady or other that never used to be a problem. These folks aren't going to rise up in revolution. They can't!

                  Only when FIRE runs it's course, the economy is in shambles, so many people are on the dole that tax revenues can't pay for it anymore...

                  Only then, when the government handouts stop coming, people can't pay their light bills and the TV goes dark... when people don't have money for food and have to go off their meds because they can't afford them...

                  Only then will people take to the streets. And they'll need to do it fast. When people are starving they lose the energy to protest within a matter of days.

                  To prepare for this, governments are gearing up for total weapons confiscation and increasing their surveillance of civilians to unprecedented, unimaginable levels. Unless the army and police side with the citizenry, I don't see how a successful revolution is possible.

                  Be kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle.

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                  • #10
                    Re: What Jesus fails to appreciate is that it's the meek who are the problem.

                    Originally posted by Mega View Post
                    They tried to lead......with some sucess..........but i am trying to understand what is factor "X"......Fidel Castro has it, some sort of leadership skill....a way of contecting with the mass of the people. I am not pointing the finger at anyone, in fact i am shocked at my own reaction.........in 1981 i was in the Liverpool riots.......yet that young rebellious man would not belive that he become what he hated to most....fat bald rightwing coward..........but i did & i am........strangly at ease with it as well.
                    Mike
                    I don't think you're a coward, Mike. You have your own brand of courage. You get up every day and do your best. That takes courage. You put the needs of your family above your self, and that's quite commendable courage in my book.

                    We don't stay puppies all our lives- we're not supposed to. We lose the ability if not the desire to jump barricades and dodge billy clubs, but hopefully we gain in wisdom to compensate for what we've lost. Just keep speaking the truth as you see it, and let the younger folks do more of the physical stuff. When the dust settles, they'll need their elders' experience and wisdom to help set things right. You have plenty of that to share, along with a terrific sense of humor :-)

                    Be kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle.

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                    • #11
                      Re: What Jesus fails to appreciate is that it's the meek who are the problem.

                      Madam..........you give me too much credit..........i lie, i cheat...i slept with other mens wifes..............as for my bad side, well too much to list to be honest.
                      Mike

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                      • #12
                        Re: What Jesus fails to appreciate is that it's the meek who are the problem.

                        Originally posted by Mega View Post
                        Madam..........you give me too much credit..........i lie, i cheat...i slept with other mens wifes..............as for my bad side, well too much to list to be honest.
                        Mike
                        Every day is a gift, Mike, an opportunity to learn from our mistakes and choose to do good.

                        Be kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle.

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