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Re: Did the allies bring down Malaysian Airline MH17?
Lets do that.
http://www.alvinsnyder.com/the_truth...t_007_8994.htm
So did we get an explanation WHY MH-17 was diverted further north when for at least the previous 10 runs it was way away from the Danger Zone? NO. Did we get an investigation (independent) of who was shooting on Majdan? NO.
Ukraine controls the airspace. Where are its radar records? Gosh, this can't be top secret technology.
No, the simplest explanation is not good enough. Where is the evidence and not that TWITTER based BS ?
Funny. Only our side and the Kiev Junta know best ?????? Have we forgotten the Nuland Tapes? And I do not mean the Fuc& You part.
This incident is far far from a slam and dunk.
Maybe it would be worth including KAL007 as another incident to put into context with MH17.
But within the last few years, additional taped evidence has become public that makes clear that I was given only selective information - some of the pilots' words and none of the comments of the ground controllers. Those full conversations reveal that the Russians believed the intruder aircraft was an American RC-135 reconnaissance plane, many of which flew routine missions in the area. The tapes, which are compiled in the final report of the International Civil Aviation Organization's investigation of the incident released in 1993 told me what I did not hear.
The tapes, the content of which U.S. government officials were aware of at the time of the shootdown, show that Osipovich could not identify the plane, and that he fired warning cannons and tipped his wings, an international signal to force the plane to land. All this failed to get the crew's attention. The controller said, "The target is military. As soon as it has violated state borders, destroy it. Arm your weapons . . . The target has violated the state border. Destroy the target."
Former U.S. officials involved in the coverup, who insist on anonymity, have told me that monitoring data was intentionally withheld from our U.N. tape. Beyond the propaganda value, the U.S. did not wish to tip the Soviets to the sophistication of its intelligence along the Soviet border. "Although untrue and unfair," one former State Department official told me, "it intimidated the Russians, and probably helped to prevent future such incidents and saved lives. We gave them a beating."
The tapes, the content of which U.S. government officials were aware of at the time of the shootdown, show that Osipovich could not identify the plane, and that he fired warning cannons and tipped his wings, an international signal to force the plane to land. All this failed to get the crew's attention. The controller said, "The target is military. As soon as it has violated state borders, destroy it. Arm your weapons . . . The target has violated the state border. Destroy the target."
Former U.S. officials involved in the coverup, who insist on anonymity, have told me that monitoring data was intentionally withheld from our U.N. tape. Beyond the propaganda value, the U.S. did not wish to tip the Soviets to the sophistication of its intelligence along the Soviet border. "Although untrue and unfair," one former State Department official told me, "it intimidated the Russians, and probably helped to prevent future such incidents and saved lives. We gave them a beating."
So did we get an explanation WHY MH-17 was diverted further north when for at least the previous 10 runs it was way away from the Danger Zone? NO. Did we get an investigation (independent) of who was shooting on Majdan? NO.
Ukraine controls the airspace. Where are its radar records? Gosh, this can't be top secret technology.
No, the simplest explanation is not good enough. Where is the evidence and not that TWITTER based BS ?
The Russians and their supporters don't present independent reports,
This incident is far far from a slam and dunk.
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