Fuck Microsoft.

[Jim Nickerson]

Sapiens you need to keep your grandson away from adult investment sites.

I just spent ~16 hours screwing with some sort of conflict that developed in using multiple web queries in an Excel 11 workbook and a version of Office 12's Excel that came installed on a relatively new HP computer. The Office 12 being there to use for 60 days and then to buy if one was sucked in to doing so.

Over the last week, this Excel 11 workbook upon attempting 39 or so queries started returning mostly error messages vs. data being imported. Though this particular workbook is seldom the first of many I load, in the past week I noted if it were the first I loaded, that the computer would start to install Office 12 Excel which had just been dormantly taking up space on my hard drive.

After doing everything I could think of to get the queries to work, I called Microsoft support and was told this was a problem for "higher level of support" which just cost $249/incident. I said screw that Dilip (my Indian support guy). How about you just totally uninstall Office 12 for $50 and lets see what happens. Why did I ask him to uninstall it rather than doing it myself. Because the goddammed program will not uninstall in a conventional manner as almost all programs I have used since the advent of Windows would uninstall.

Check out this KB article that explains what one must do to uninstall this piece of shit: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/928218/

What Dilip did for me did not work, but upon restoring a backup for my entire drive from a week ago and then uninstalling Office 12 myself as in the KB article, I got the workbook to perform the queries error free at least once so far.

Gates, Ballmer, et. al, should have their reproductive organs along with those of any of their offspring excised, incinerated, and blasted into the furthest reaches of space. This method of dealing with bullshit would also likely suffice in dealing with the instigators of any number of problems facing the US an world today.

[karim0028]

Re: Fuck Microsoft.

Sapiens you need to keep your grandson away from adult investment sites.

I just spent ~16 hours screwing with some sort of conflict that developed in using multiple web queries in an Excel 11 workbook and a version of Office 12's Excel that came installed on a relatively new HP computer. The Office 12 being there to use for 60 days and then to buy if one was sucked in to doing so.

Over the last week, this Excel 11 workbook upon attempting 39 or so queries started returning mostly error messages vs. data being imported. Though this particular workbook is seldom the first of many I load, in the past week I noted if it were the first I loaded, that the computer would start to install Office 12 Excel which had just been dormantly taking up space on my hard drive.

After doing everything I could think of to get the queries to work, I called Microsoft support and was told this was a problem for "higher level of support" which just cost $249/incident. I said screw that Dilip (my Indian support guy). How about you just totally uninstall Office 12 for $50 and lets see what happens. Why did I ask him to uninstall it rather than doing it myself. Because the goddammed program will not uninstall in a conventional manner as almost all programs I have used since the advent of Windows would uninstall.

Check out this KB article that explains what one must do to uninstall this piece of shit: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/928218/

What Dilip did for me did not work, but upon restoring a backup for my entire drive from a week ago and then uninstalling Office 12 myself as in the KB article, I got the workbook to perform the queries error free at least once so far.

Gates, Ballmer, et. al, should have their reproductive organs along with those of any of their offspring excised, incinerated, and blasted into the furthest reaches of space. This method of dealing with bullshit would also likely suffice in dealing with the instigators of any number of problems facing the US an world today.

Thats why once you go mac, you never go back

[rogermexico]

Re: Fuck Microsoft.

Sapiens you need to keep your grandson away from adult investment sites.

I just spent ~16 hours screwing with some sort of conflict that developed in using multiple web queries in an Excel 11 workbook and a version of Office 12's Excel that came installed on a relatively new HP computer. The Office 12 being there to use for 60 days and then to buy if one was sucked in to doing so.

Over the last week, this Excel 11 workbook upon attempting 39 or so queries started returning mostly error messages vs. data being imported. Though this particular workbook is seldom the first of many I load, in the past week I noted if it were the first I loaded, that the computer would start to install Office 12 Excel which had just been dormantly taking up space on my hard drive.

After doing everything I could think of to get the queries to work, I called Microsoft support and was told this was a problem for "higher level of support" which just cost $249/incident. I said screw that Dilip (my Indian support guy). How about you just totally uninstall Office 12 for $50 and lets see what happens. Why did I ask him to uninstall it rather than doing it myself. Because the goddammed program will not uninstall in a conventional manner as almost all programs I have used since the advent of Windows would uninstall.

Check out this KB article that explains what one must do to uninstall this piece of shit: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/928218/

What Dilip did for me did not work, but upon restoring a backup for my entire drive from a week ago and then uninstalling Office 12 myself as in the KB article, I got the workbook to perform the queries error free at least once so far.

Gates, Ballmer, et. al, should have their reproductive organs along with those of any of their offspring excised, incinerated, and blasted into the furthest reaches of space. This method of dealing with bullshit would also likely suffice in dealing with the instigators of any number of problems facing the US an world today.

+ 1 on mac - what is your excuse for still using microslop? You are smart enough to hang around itulip.

[*T*]

Re: Fuck Microsoft.

+1 mac +1 linux.
Windows is for games man!

Almost the only reason to use windows is VBA for excel...

[we_are_toast]

Re: Fuck Microsoft.

I just spent ~16 hours screwing with some sort of conflict that developed in using multiple web queries in an Excel 11 workbook and a version of Office 12's Excel that came installed on a relatively new HP computer. The Office 12 being there to use for 60 days and then to buy if one was sucked in to doing so.

Over the last week, this Excel 11 workbook upon attempting 39 or so queries started returning mostly error messages vs. data being imported. Though this particular workbook is seldom the first of many I load, in the past week I noted if it were the first I loaded, that the computer would start to install Office 12 Excel which had just been dormantly taking up space on my hard drive.

After doing everything I could think of to get the queries to work, I called Microsoft support and was told this was a problem for "higher level of support" which just cost $249/incident. I said screw that Dilip (my Indian support guy). How about you just totally uninstall Office 12 for $50 and lets see what happens. Why did I ask him to uninstall it rather than doing it myself. Because the goddammed program will not uninstall in a conventional manner as almost all programs I have used since the advent of Windows would uninstall.

Check out this KB article that explains what one must do to uninstall this piece of shit: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/928218/

What Dilip did for me did not work, but upon restoring a backup for my entire drive from a week ago and then uninstalling Office 12 myself as in the KB article, I got the workbook to perform the queries error free at least once so far.

Gates, Ballmer, et. al, should have their reproductive organs along with those of any of their offspring excised, incinerated, and blasted into the furthest reaches of space. This method of dealing with bullshit would also likely suffice in dealing with the instigators of any number of problems facing the US an world today.

Dear Mr. Nickerson,

We regret to inform you that your application to write product reviews for Microsoft Corporation has been rejected. We wish you well in your future endeavors.

Sincerely,
B. Gates, S. Ballmer

[Guest]

Re: Fuck Microsoft.

Jim's cry "from the wilderness" is somehow reminiscent of those old hand carried blow-torches used to bubble-peel old paint from auto-bodies? Or was it the steel wire brush with the semidilute hydrochloric acid? Go Jim. Time to check in to your local Fry's Electronics and buttonhole the nearest Microsoft products tout for an earful of flames and paint peeler. There is no point in going up to Redmond Wa, as the security goons in the corporate buildings won't let irate hostage-clients in past the lobby. When you go there, there's no buttonholing of corporate level MS product touts allowed - you have to stay outside and picket. :rolleyes:

[don]

Re: Fuck Microsoft.

Dear Mr. Nickerson,

We regret to inform you that your application to write product reviews for Microsoft Corporation has been rejected. We wish you well in your future endeavors.

Sincerely,
B. Gates, S. Ballmer

Dear Mr. Nickerson,

We appreciate your product review for Microsoft Corporation and are pleased to be your workplace software provider. We look forward to continuing to provide you with the very best in office programs and operating systems.

Sincerely,
B. Gates, S. Ballmer[/quote]

You were so close, toast. Thanks for teeing it up!

[Guest]

Re: Fuck Microsoft.

I read somewhere that Jim is somehow involved with the founding of iTulip, or has some investment placed in their enterprise (can't remember what it was), so iTulip can't easily get him to tone his thread titles down. As far as I recall they can't easily get him to tone much of anything down when he has a mind to vent a little.

[Jim Nickerson]

Re: Fuck Microsoft.

I read somewhere that Jim is somehow involved with the founding of iTulip, or has some investment placed in their enterprise (can't remember what it was), so iTulip can't easily get him to tone his thread titles down. As far as I recall they can't easily get him to tone much of anything down when he has a mind to vent a little.

That "founders" label was gratis of EJ early on and was granted to me because of a volume, not necessarily quality, of posts. No investments do I have in iTulip.

Nearing 68 y/o I am more and more hard pressed when it comes to change. My problem with even buying a new computer was dealing with whatever changes I would encounter in Vista and that was based on piddling with wife's computer that has Vista.

I got a helluva computer, hp, that actually is a gamer's setup, I think, though I do NO gaming. I like the computer though, and hopefully will not pissaway a lot of hours again chasing gremlins or whatever software shit is called.

For anyone who may not have learned, one cannot be too compulsive about doing backups. It was one of them that was mostly responsible for getting me straightened out--once I figured or learned how to debride Office 12 from the system.

[Guest]

Re: Fuck Microsoft.

... once I figured or learned how to debride Office 12 from the system.

Debridement :

surgical removal of foreign material and dead tissue from a wound in order to prevent infection and promote healing (promotes HP computer healing).

wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn

Debridement is a medical term referring to the removal of dead, damaged, or infected tissue ( MS Office 12 ) to improve the healing potential of the remaining healthy tissue. ... (sickly anemic HP computer).

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debridement

[Jim Nickerson]

Re: Fuck Microsoft.

Debridement :

surgical removal of foreign material and dead tissue from a wound in order to prevent infection and promote healing (promotes HP computer healing).

wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn

Debridement is a medical term referring to the removal of dead, damaged, or infected tissue ( MS Office 12 ) to improve the healing potential of the remaining healthy tissue. ... (sickly anemic HP computer).

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debridement

The "surgical" part of my debribement of Office 12 was a whole lot of incisive cursing to myself and out loud once wife retired.

[Supercilious]

Re: Fuck Microsoft.

Two words: Mac or Linux.
Mac requires less computer knowledge but more money.
Linux requires more computer knowledge and almost $0.
(BTW, how is your Linux adventure going ?)

[The Outback Oracle]

Re: Fuck Microsoft.

Please excuse a relatively computer illiterate...
Are you telling Jim to go buy a Mac computer or will Mac run on a normal desktop e.g. Dell ?

Second given that one has got windows, is there an alternative email programne to outlook express?

Any opinions on Open Office?

I do remember a thread where you blokes discussed Linux quite widely, I'll try to find it. I'd like to get around Microsoft if I can but everything in my office is set up with Windows. Don't get me wrong i'm only talking about 10 computers but messing with computer programnes is quite a pain in the a...e!

[Jim Nickerson]

Re: Fuck Microsoft.

Two words: Mac or Linux.
Mac requires less computer knowledge but more money.
Linux requires more computer knowledge and almost $0.
(BTW, how is your Linux adventure going ?)

It worked well, the installation you outlined, but getting into its spread sheet and considering having to reconstruct all the macros I use was too much with which to have to deal--you know, reluctance to change. Were I 20 years or so younger, I would be a Linux user in a second.

[karim0028]

Re: Fuck Microsoft.

It worked well, the installation you outlined, but getting into its spread sheet and considering having to reconstruct all the macros I use was too much with which to have to deal--you know, reluctance to change. Were I 20 years or so younger, I would be a Linux user in a second.

Why be a linux user in a second when you could be a mac user now? ;) Even at 68, you'll be able to pick up a mac and just use it. Its practically fool proof.