What's really happening in USA is finally sinking in

[tombat1913]

Re: gun sales skyrocketing in US

Seems like it would be pretty hard to get killed by a gun if there weren't any around.

This is so completely irrational, prohibition doesn't work. Drugs are illegal, but very plentiful. Prostitution is mostly illegal, still accessible. If you make guns illegal, THEY WILL STILL BE HERE! This is an economics forum so this should be a simple concept for all of us. Supply and demand. If something is made illegal the black market takes up where the free market is impeded. The only possible result of gun prohibition will be that only law abiding citizens will be unarmed. If you think that the guns are going to magically disappear upon passing of the law you're delusional.

[nero3]

Re: gun sales skyrocketing in US

This is so completely irrational, prohibition doesn't work. Drugs are illegal, but very plentiful. Prostitution is mostly illegal, still accessible. If you make guns illegal, THEY WILL STILL BE HERE! This is an economics forum so this should be a simple concept for all of us. Supply and demand. If something is made illegal the black market takes up where the free market is impeded. The only possible result of gun prohibition will be that only law abiding citizens will be unarmed. If you think that the guns are going to magically disappear upon passing of the law you're delusional.

You are hinting at parts of the solution, and that's a legalization of drugs, in particular the heaviest, a definition as a disease, and a solution where you get a script from a doctor to get your drugs at a pharmacy. That would dramatically reduce the need some feel to own a gun. To kill all the criminality associated with drugs, both smuggling, and raising the money to pay for it, you would need a legalization, and not only that, but free stuff for the addicts.

[Munger]

Re: gun sales skyrocketing in US

This is so completely irrational, prohibition doesn't work. Drugs are illegal, but very plentiful. Prostitution is mostly illegal, still accessible. If you make guns illegal, THEY WILL STILL BE HERE! This is an economics forum so this should be a simple concept for all of us. Supply and demand. If something is made illegal the black market takes up where the free market is impeded. The only possible result of gun prohibition will be that only law abiding citizens will be unarmed. If you think that the guns are going to magically disappear upon passing of the law you're delusional.

I was not advocating prohibition. Simply noting the correlation between guns and gun deaths. And the impossibility of being killed by a gun that does not exist. Which is indisputable. Don't know why this is such a hard thing to grasp.

[nero3]

Re: gun sales skyrocketing in US

Since the age of thirty I have never thought of myself as good.
That was twenty-seven years ago. Now I'm sure that I am better than no one and probably worse than most.

Perhaps you should think long and hard about where your concept of "good" is coming from. Anyone who would invade my home and attack me or my wife probably has a far clearer idea of right and wrong than you do. He knows what he wants and doesn't care who or what stands in his way. He laughs at men who think like you and counts them as allies.

No civilization can survive if a majority of its people develop your mindset. They believe in nothing but personal peace and aren't willing to defend even a child. And while I never called you evil you quickly refer to me as such. You who count the life of an armed criminal as precious as your own family's - my, my, aren't you selective in your compassion!

I would never slander the people of Norway as you have slandered me and my countrymen. Yours was a nation that refused to join the treachery and treason of Vidkun Quisling; which produced the heroes of Telemark who sacrificed their own families rather than see Nazi Germany develop an atomic bomb; who hid Jews from their would-be exterminators.

I hope that you are not representative of the people of Norway.

I don't think you are evil, but I see all over again, that it's needed to have a mindset of oneself as good to harm others. Someone who is "good" in their own mind, can always justify their actions, no matter how bad.

[mooncliff]

Re: What's really happening in USA is finally sinking in

American History - the South Park version

[Guest]

Re: gun sales skyrocketing in US

Very intriguing charts there, CharlesTMungerFan. Leaves one wondering - whatever could they mean?

Because the existence of a gun has absolutely nothing to do with being shot by it.

[Guest]

Re: What's really happening in USA is finally sinking in

We''ve got one reader here who appreciates a lot of Nero3's posts. Allow me to cast a vote.

[Guest]

Re: What's really happening in USA is finally sinking in

If you were puffing your chest out any further it would inflate and you'd float right off the ground, with comments like this. What a bunch of soap-box opera bullshyte. Next thing we all are supposed to haul out little flags and start waving them, to the soul moving sounds of "land of the free, home of the brave". Yeesh. What a lot of crapola mishmash of patriotism mixed up with gun rights here. It's running so thick in this thread you could spread it on a slice of bread, like margerine.

hey, nero. first you insult our intelligence by ignoring our investment thesis, now half our country with a depiction of them as semi-retarded? you're a real charmer.

[Guest]

Re: What's really happening in USA is finally sinking in

HaHaHa ... Nero (should volunteer to) have that tattoo'ed on his forehead.

Yeah, we are head over heels enamoured with you too Rogermexico. "Volunteer to have that tattooed on his forehead", eh? Welcome to genteel America folks. Rogermexico here will be your tour guide this afternoon. ...

[rogermexico]

Re: What's really happening in USA is finally sinking in

Yeah, we are head over heels enamoured with you too Rogermexico. "Volunteer to have that tattooed on his forehead", eh? Welcome to genteel America folks. Rogermexico here will be your tour guide this afternoon. ...

I thought I heard some buzzing in the background.

You finally sniffed me out, politenessman!

"This place sucks", said the genteel San Diego tour guide.;)

[rogermexico]

Re: What's really happening in USA is finally sinking in

If you were puffing your chest out any further it would inflate and you'd float right off the ground, with comments like this. What a bunch of soap-box opera bullshyte. Next thing we all are supposed to haul out little flags and start waving them, to the soul moving sounds of "land of the free, home of the brave". Yeesh. What a lot of crapola mishmash of patriotism mixed up with gun rights here. It's running so thick in this thread you could spread it on a slice of bread, like margerine.

Your histrionic fits are feathers in our caps.

[Guest]

Re: What's really happening in USA is finally sinking in

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[Guest]

Re: What's really happening in USA is finally sinking in

American History - the South Park version

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[metalman]

Re: What's really happening in USA is finally sinking in

Every time I have seen some American on TV, maybe teaching their son to use weapon at some weapon learning center. My thought have been that person is crazy, one of those idiots that think the US actually have something to do in Iraq, and probably have a fat, fat wife, overweight children, vote conservative republican, think he have the full right to kill intruders (because paranoia is part of the mindset of someone like that, how could they even judge who to kill) and drive a big car with low mpg stealing all that oil we have in the north sea, with the worthless dollars. Worst is that he might think he represents common sense, while in reality live in a very narrow bubble. Reminds me of the Simpson episode Homer joined some weapon organization. They sure knew how to put it

maybe you hadn't noticed, but some folks here get bailed out and others get thrown out of their homes. both made stupid decisions, but one suffers while the other does not.

in your pathetic lefty commie fantasy world, everyone gets equal protection under the law. but here in the real world in the usa, that is not so. same as with bailouts from shitty decisions, some property and persons are protected and others are left to fend for themselves. seeing is believing. do you have eyes?

[Raz]

Re: gun sales skyrocketing in US

I don't think you are evil, but I see all over again, that it's needed to have a mindset of oneself as good to harm others. Someone who is "good" in their own mind, can always justify their actions, no matter how bad.

Your words above are one of the most illogical, vacuous and senseless statements I have ever read.

One need not think of oneself as good to recognize evil when it is staring you in the face. You must be one of those thoroughly postmodern types who believes that the only "good" is to show "tolerance". That's splendid as an academic theory - until an armed thug decides to slit your wife's throat in front of you. At that point all of your "tolerance" will be seen for the moral cowardice that it really is.

If we took your ideology to its logical extension then the Nazis would still rule Norway, because none of us is "good" enough to kill them - no matter what they do.