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    Based on these observations, we conclude that the red layer of the red/gray chips we have discovered in the WTC dust is active, unreacted thermitic material, incorporating nanotechnology, and is a highly energetic pyrotechnic or explosive material.


    Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe

    Below is the Abstract, Introduction and Conclusions of this important and carefully researched article
    The complete article can be downloaded (pdf)

    Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe

    pp.7-31 (25)

    Authors: Niels H. Harrit, Jeffrey Farrer, Steven E. Jones, Kevin R. Ryan, Frank M. Legge, Daniel Farnsworth, Gregg Roberts, James R. Gourley, Bradley R. Larsen

    The Open Chemical Physics Journal
    Volume 2

    ISSN: 1874-4125

    doi: 10.2174/1874412500902010007

    Complete Article
    http://www.bentham-open.org/pages/content.php?TOCPJ/2009/00000002/00000001/7TOCPJ.SGM

    Abstract:

    We have discovered distinctive red/gray chips in all the samples we have studied of the dust produced by the destruction of the World Trade Center. Examination of four of these samples, collected from separate sites, is reported in this paper. These red/gray chips show marked similarities in all four samples. One sample was collected by a Manhattan resident about ten minutes after the collapse of the second WTC Tower, two the next day, and a fourth about a week later. The properties of these chips were analyzed using optical microscopy, scanning electron microscopy (SEM), X-ray energy dispersive spectroscopy (XEDS), and differential scanning calorimetry (DSC). The red material contains grains approximately 100 nm across which are largely iron oxide, while aluminum is contained in tiny plate-like structures. Separation of components using methyl ethyl ketone demonstrated that elemental aluminum is present. The iron oxide and aluminum are intimately mixed in the red material. When ignited in a DSC device the chips exhibit large but narrow exotherms occurring at approximately 430 °C, far below the normal ignition temperature for conventional thermite. Numerous iron-rich spheres are clearly observed in the residue following the ignition of these peculiar red/gray chips. The red portion of these chips is found to be an unreacted thermitic material and highly energetic.

    Global Research Editor's Note
    The definition of thermitic material:
    A trademark used for a welding and incendiary mixture of fine aluminum powder with a metallic oxide, usually iron, that when ignited yields an intense heat.
    The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition copyright ©2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Updated in 2003. Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.

    Thermite is a pyrotechnic composition of a metal powder and a metal oxide, which produces an aluminothermic reaction known as a thermite reaction. (Wikipedia)

    What we are dealing with is the melting/ burning of metal structures.
    “Metals are capable of burning under the right conditions, similarly to the combustion process of wood or gasoline. ... A thermite reaction is a process in which the correct mixture of metallic fuels are combined and ignited. Ignition itself requires extremely high temperatures.”
    Readers can reach their own conclusions as to the far-reaching implications of these findings.

    Although the authors do not address the broader issue of the 9/11 attacks, their findings have a direct bearing on the likely causes of the collapse of the WTC buildings on September 11, 2001. The findings also question the validity of the official report of the 911 Commission.

    Below are selected excerpts of the article. Readers can also link to the complete text, by clicking the link

    Complete Article
    http://www.bentham-open.org/pages/content.php?TOCPJ/2009/00000002/00000001/7TOCPJ.SGM

    EXCERPTS

    INTRODUCTION
    The destruction of three skyscrapers (WTC 1, 2 and 7) on September 11, 2001 was an immensely tragic catastrophe that not only impacted thousands of people and families directly, due to injury and loss of life, but also provided the motivation for numerous expensive and radical changes in domestic and foreign policy. For these and other reasons, knowing what really happened that fateful day is of grave importance.

    A great deal of effort has been put forth by various government-sponsored and -funded investigations, which led, in large part, to the reports released by FEMA [1] and NIST [2]. Other studies of the destruction have been less well publicized but are no less important to the outstanding obligation that remains to the victims of that tragedy, to determine the whole truth of the events of that day [3-10]. A number of these studies have appropriately focused attention on the remaining physical material, and on available photographs and video footage, as sources of evidence still in public hands, relating to the method of destruction of the three skyscrapers.

    CONCLUSIONS
    We have discovered distinctive red/gray chips in significant numbers in dust associated with the World Trade Center destruction. We have applied SEM/XEDS and other methods to characterize the small-scale structure and chemical signature of these chips, especially of their red component. The red material is most interesting and has the following characteristics:

    1. It is composed of aluminum, iron, oxygen, silicon and carbon. Lesser amounts of other potentially reactive elements are sometimes present, such as potassium, sulfur, lead, barium and copper.
    2. The primary elements (Al, Fe, O, Si, C) are typically all present in particles at the scale of tens to hundreds of nanometers, and detailed XEDS mapping shows intimate mixing.
    3. On treatment with methyl ethyl ketone solvent, some segregation of components occurred. Elemental aluminum became sufficiently concentrated to be clearly identified in the pre-ignition material.
    4. Iron oxide appears in faceted grains roughly 100 nm across whereas the aluminum appears in thin platelike structures. The small size of the iron oxide particles qualifies the material to be characterized as nanothermite or super-thermite.
    5. Analysis shows that iron and oxygen are present in a ratio consistent with Fe2O3. The red material in all four WTC dust samples was similar in this way. Iron oxide was found in the pre-ignition material whereas elemental iron was not.
    6. From the presence of elemental aluminum and iron oxide in the red material, we conclude that it contains the ingredients of thermite.
    7. As measured using DSC, the material ignites and reacts vigorously at a temperature of approximately 430 °C, with a rather narrow exotherm, matching fairly closely an independent observation on a known super-thermite sample. The low temperature of ignition and the presence of iron oxide grains less than 120 nm show that the material is not conventional thermite (which ignites at temperatures above 900 °C) but very likely a form of super-thermite.
    8. After igniting several red/gray chips in a DSC run to 700 °C, we found numerous iron-rich spheres and spheroids in the residue, indicating that a very high temperature reaction had occurred, since the iron-rich product clearly must have been molten to form these shapes. In several spheres, elemental iron was verified since the iron content significantly exceeded the oxygen content. We conclude that a high-temperature reduction-oxidation reaction has occurred in the heated chips, namely, the thermite reaction.
    9. The spheroids produced by the DSC tests and by the flame test have an XEDS signature (Al, Fe, O, Si, C) which is depleted in carbon and aluminum relative to the original red material. This chemical signature strikingly matches the chemical signature of the spheroids produced by igniting commercial thermite, and also matches the signatures of many of the microspheres found in the WTC dust [5].
    10. The carbon content of the red material indicates that an organic substance is present. This would be expected for super-thermite formulations in order to produce high gas pressures upon ignition and thus make them explosive. The nature of the organic material in these chips merits further exploration. We note that it is likely also an energetic material, in that the total energy release sometimes observed in DSC tests exceeds the theoretical maximum energy of the classic thermite reaction.
    Based on these observations, we conclude that the red layer of the red/gray chips we have discovered in the WTC dust is active, unreacted thermitic material, incorporating nanotechnology, and is a highly energetic pyrotechnic or explosive material.
    (emphasis added)

    Complete Article
    http://www.bentham-open.org/pages/co...001/7TOCPJ.SGM

    Article at:http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.p...t=va&aid=13049

  • #2
    Re: New Thermite?

    are you kidding me? yet another '911... the gov't did it' thread? all this report proves is that chemists can be conspiracy theorists, too.

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    • #3
      Re: New Thermite?

      Originally posted by metalman View Post
      are you kidding me? yet another '911... the gov't did it' thread? all this report proves is that chemists can be conspiracy theorists, too.
      maybe mot but sure as shit some guy hiding in a cave in Afpak didn't do it
      "that each simple substance has relations which express all the others"

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      • #4
        Re: New Thermite?

        I might be missing something, but this says the dust contains rust and metal filings; much like skyscrapers contain rust and metal filings.
        Curiousity, skepticism and green vegetables.

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        • #5
          Re: New Thermite?

          it says

          The definition of thermitic material:
          A trademark used for a welding and incendiary mixture of fine aluminum powder with a metallic oxide, usually iron, that when ignited yields an intense heat.

          if true no its not exactly what you would find in your run of the mill skyscrapper


          "that each simple substance has relations which express all the others"

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          • #6
            Re: New Thermite?

            Originally posted by Ted Q. Sipp View Post
            I might be missing something, but this says the dust contains rust and metal filings; much like skyscrapers contain rust and metal filings.
            Beyond the nonsensical, do we have anybody on board that can decipher the opening line:

            Based on these observations, we conclude that the red layer of the red/gray chips we have discovered in the WTC dust is active, unreacted thermitic material, incorporating nanotechnology, and is a highly energetic pyrotechnic or explosive material.

            Would that be new technology?

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            • #7
              Re: New Thermite?

              ...and enough Bauxite to make your own hat ;)

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              • #8
                Re: New Thermite?

                They are implying imo that thermite is an explosive used in controlled demolitions of buildings by placing it at strategic load bearing locations in timed explosions a building can be made to fall into its own foot print the possible evidence of large (or substantial as the report says whatever tis means) quantities of thermite at the WTC contradicts the official story line furthermore they are saying that the unexploded or burned (unreacted) Thermite found was highly engineered for greater explosive effect incorporating nanotechnology, and is a highly energetic pyrotechnic or explosive material.
                "that each simple substance has relations which express all the others"

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                • #9
                  Re: New Thermite?

                  Fascinating find Don. I'm normally anti all conspiracy theories but what is found is what is found, and must be rationally interpreted. I highly doubt that thermitic alloy, let alone nano-particle reduced, should be found anywhere near an ultra high rise building's structural composition. I thiink ASH for starters would be a great resource here. He's a materials scientist, and I believe he specializes in alloys? Where's ASH? Let's hope Fred does not consign this thread to Rant and Rave as it merits more serious consideration than that.

                  Red hot story.

                  In Uranium, it's manufacture produces a signature for every batch produced. I wonder if a "signature" is produced by thermite manufacture?

                  Originally posted by don View Post
                  Beyond the nonsensical, do we have anybody on board that can decipher the opening line:

                  Based on these observations, we conclude that the red layer of the red/gray chips we have discovered in the WTC dust is active, unreacted thermitic material, incorporating nanotechnology, and is a highly energetic pyrotechnic or explosive material.

                  Would that be new technology?

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                  • #10
                    Re: New Thermite?

                    Whether the Thermite report is valid what is Fact is that the Kean Commission was stonewalled by the Bush Regime. So, there has never been a complete and honest investigation into 9/11. No independent body has had access to all the information. So, it is quite valid that many citizens do not believe the Official Line.

                    "There could have been absolutely no doubt in the mind of anyone at the C.I.A. -- or the White House -- of the commission’s interest in any and all information related to Qaeda detainees involved in the 9/11 plot. Yet no one in the administration ever told the commission of the existence of videotapes of detainee interrogations." From a few days ago, 9/11 Commission Chairs Thomas Kean and Lee Hamilton angrily accuse the CIA and Dubya White House of stonewalling their investigation. "As a legal matter, it is not up to us to examine the C.I.A.’s failure to disclose the existence of these tapes. That is for others. What we do know is that government officials decided not to inform a lawfully constituted body, created by Congress and the president, to investigate one the greatest tragedies to confront this country. We call that obstruction."

                    http://www.ghostinthemachine.net/005171.html
                    contains link to NYT story

                    In addition, anyone familiar with 9/11 knows that an ex-Chauffeur and crony of Governor Weld of MA was in charge of security at Logan Airport on the day of the dual hijacking ouf of Logan. So, the number one cause of 9/11 was in fact Political Patronage something of course never mentioned by Kean, himself a politico. Or mentioned by MSM.

                    http://www.masscops.com/forums/war-s...?t-10491.html=
                    scroll down for Boston Globe Story

                    So, the Jury is not even out on 9/11 since one has never been properly convened and heard all the evidence.

                    The most amusing one about 9/11, however, is that those who believe and parrot the Bush/Government Line charge those who do not with "believing in conspiracies". Yet, the Bush/Government Line itself says there was a conspiracy! Absolutely contradictory position accepted by the Public hook, line and sinker.

                    It should also be noted that there is a pattern. The same Regime that spawned the Kean Report also lied about WMDs in IRAQ. So, there is a proven record of lies and deceit, yet the Public believes the 9/11 tale.

                    So, it's OK to believe in conspiracies as long as they are Official Propaganda.

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                    • #11
                      Re: New Thermite?

                      Originally posted by petertribo View Post
                      Whether the Thermite report is valid what is Fact is that the Kean Commission was stonewalled by the Bush Regime. So, there has never been a complete and honest investigation into 9/11. No independent body has had access to all the information. So, it is quite valid that many citizens do not believe the Official Line.

                      "There could have been absolutely no doubt in the mind of anyone at the C.I.A. -- or the White House -- of the commission’s interest in any and all information related to Qaeda detainees involved in the 9/11 plot. Yet no one in the administration ever told the commission of the existence of videotapes of detainee interrogations." From a few days ago, 9/11 Commission Chairs Thomas Kean and Lee Hamilton angrily accuse the CIA and Dubya White House of stonewalling their investigation. "As a legal matter, it is not up to us to examine the C.I.A.’s failure to disclose the existence of these tapes. That is for others. What we do know is that government officials decided not to inform a lawfully constituted body, created by Congress and the president, to investigate one the greatest tragedies to confront this country. We call that obstruction."

                      http://www.ghostinthemachine.net/005171.html
                      contains link to NYT story

                      In addition, anyone familiar with 9/11 knows that an ex-Chauffeur and crony of Governor Weld of MA was in charge of security at Logan Airport on the day of the dual hijacking ouf of Logan. So, the number one cause of 9/11 was in fact Political Patronage something of course never mentioned by Kean, himself a politico. Or mentioned by MSM.

                      http://www.masscops.com/forums/war-s...?t-10491.html=
                      scroll down for Boston Globe Story

                      So, the Jury is not even out on 9/11 since one has never been properly convened and heard all the evidence.

                      The most amusing one about 9/11, however, is that those who believe and parrot the Bush/Government Line charge those who do not with "believing in conspiracies". Yet, the Bush/Government Line itself says there was a conspiracy! Absolutely contradictory position accepted by the Public hook, line and sinker.

                      It should also be noted that there is a pattern. The same Regime that spawned the Kean Report also lied about WMDs in IRAQ. So, there is a proven record of lies and deceit, yet the Public believes the 9/11 tale.

                      So, it's OK to believe in conspiracies as long as they are Official Propaganda.
                      The physicists on this report intentionally restrict it to the science and not extrapolating it to all of the myriad 9/11 aspects. Hopefully this thread will stay on the same course. There may be something to learn here but there won't be if we go off the rails. That's not a judgment on any of the other aspects, just experience.

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                      • #12
                        Re: New Thermite?

                        Petertribo - I don't know anything about the suppression of the Kean investigation or the rest of it, but it might be constructive here, to your viewpoint winning new recruits from among the skeptics, to not introduce all the heated allegations and counterallegations on this one topic and treat it scrupulously as a very narrow examination of the probabilities that thermite could be present within the trade buildings as a consequence of their construction. When that much is settled one can look further out. Otherwise the discussion here broadens to all the controversy and instantly loses focus.

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                        • #13
                          Re: New Thermite?

                          If blowing up skyscapers is a specialized skill only known to a few successful individuals and/or companies, some enterprising young graduate student might do some research into death certificates of said employees to see if there's been a sudden increase of expirations of these souls during a particular period of time. If such a conspiracy existed to blow up the towers, is there anybody that thinks the guys on the bottom layer of the cake are still walkin' around with that knowledge?

                          Boy, would that be an interesting movie to watch...reminescent of 'The Fugitive'. Ya could even have the detonation fugitive becoming a priest...kinda a related vocational type of thing...from blowing up buildings to blowing up the world thread.

                          Still...the collapse of those towers looked surprisingly familiar with similar demolitions. The more suspect cuz skyscrapers of lesser quality that catch fire don't collapse. In fact, has there been any skyscrapers that collapsed due strictly from the damage of a fire?

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                          • #14
                            Re: New Thermite?

                            Originally posted by don View Post
                            Based on these observations, we conclude that the red layer of the red/gray chips we have discovered in the WTC dust is active, unreacted thermitic material, incorporating nanotechnology, and is a highly energetic pyrotechnic or explosive material.


                            Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe

                            Below is the Abstract, Introduction and Conclusions of this important and carefully researched article
                            The complete article can be downloaded (pdf)

                            Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe
                            pp.7-31 (25)

                            Authors: Niels H. Harrit, Jeffrey Farrer, Steven E. Jones, Kevin R. Ryan, Frank M. Legge, Daniel Farnsworth, Gregg Roberts, James R. Gourley, Bradley R. Larsen

                            The Open Chemical Physics Journal
                            Volume 2

                            ISSN: 1874-4125

                            doi: 10.2174/1874412500902010007
                            Complete Article
                            http://www.bentham-open.org/pages/content.php?TOCPJ/2009/00000002/00000001/7TOCPJ.SGM

                            Abstract:
                            We have discovered distinctive red/gray chips in all the samples we have studied of the dust produced by the destruction of the World Trade Center. Examination of four of these samples, collected from separate sites, is reported in this paper. These red/gray chips show marked similarities in all four samples. One sample was collected by a Manhattan resident about ten minutes after the collapse of the second WTC Tower, two the next day, and a fourth about a week later. The properties of these chips were analyzed using optical microscopy, scanning electron microscopy (SEM), X-ray energy dispersive spectroscopy (XEDS), and differential scanning calorimetry (DSC). The red material contains grains approximately 100 nm across which are largely iron oxide, while aluminum is contained in tiny plate-like structures. Separation of components using methyl ethyl ketone demonstrated that elemental aluminum is present. The iron oxide and aluminum are intimately mixed in the red material. When ignited in a DSC device the chips exhibit large but narrow exotherms occurring at approximately 430 °C, far below the normal ignition temperature for conventional thermite. Numerous iron-rich spheres are clearly observed in the residue following the ignition of these peculiar red/gray chips. The red portion of these chips is found to be an unreacted thermitic material and highly energetic.

                            Global Research Editor's Note
                            The definition of thermitic material:
                            A trademark used for a welding and incendiary mixture of fine aluminum powder with a metallic oxide, usually iron, that when ignited yields an intense heat.
                            The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition copyright ©2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Updated in 2003. Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.

                            Thermite is a pyrotechnic composition of a metal powder and a metal oxide, which produces an aluminothermic reaction known as a thermite reaction. (Wikipedia)

                            What we are dealing with is the melting/ burning of metal structures.
                            “Metals are capable of burning under the right conditions, similarly to the combustion process of wood or gasoline. ... A thermite reaction is a process in which the correct mixture of metallic fuels are combined and ignited. Ignition itself requires extremely high temperatures.”
                            Readers can reach their own conclusions as to the far-reaching implications of these findings.

                            Although the authors do not address the broader issue of the 9/11 attacks, their findings have a direct bearing on the likely causes of the collapse of the WTC buildings on September 11, 2001. The findings also question the validity of the official report of the 911 Commission.

                            Below are selected excerpts of the article. Readers can also link to the complete text, by clicking the link

                            Complete Article
                            http://www.bentham-open.org/pages/content.php?TOCPJ/2009/00000002/00000001/7TOCPJ.SGM

                            EXCERPTS

                            INTRODUCTION
                            The destruction of three skyscrapers (WTC 1, 2 and 7) on September 11, 2001 was an immensely tragic catastrophe that not only impacted thousands of people and families directly, due to injury and loss of life, but also provided the motivation for numerous expensive and radical changes in domestic and foreign policy. For these and other reasons, knowing what really happened that fateful day is of grave importance.

                            A great deal of effort has been put forth by various government-sponsored and -funded investigations, which led, in large part, to the reports released by FEMA [1] and NIST [2]. Other studies of the destruction have been less well publicized but are no less important to the outstanding obligation that remains to the victims of that tragedy, to determine the whole truth of the events of that day [3-10]. A number of these studies have appropriately focused attention on the remaining physical material, and on available photographs and video footage, as sources of evidence still in public hands, relating to the method of destruction of the three skyscrapers.

                            CONCLUSIONS
                            We have discovered distinctive red/gray chips in significant numbers in dust associated with the World Trade Center destruction. We have applied SEM/XEDS and other methods to characterize the small-scale structure and chemical signature of these chips, especially of their red component. The red material is most interesting and has the following characteristics:

                            1. It is composed of aluminum, iron, oxygen, silicon and carbon. Lesser amounts of other potentially reactive elements are sometimes present, such as potassium, sulfur, lead, barium and copper.
                            2. The primary elements (Al, Fe, O, Si, C) are typically all present in particles at the scale of tens to hundreds of nanometers, and detailed XEDS mapping shows intimate mixing.
                            3. On treatment with methyl ethyl ketone solvent, some segregation of components occurred. Elemental aluminum became sufficiently concentrated to be clearly identified in the pre-ignition material.
                            4. Iron oxide appears in faceted grains roughly 100 nm across whereas the aluminum appears in thin platelike structures. The small size of the iron oxide particles qualifies the material to be characterized as nanothermite or super-thermite.
                            5. Analysis shows that iron and oxygen are present in a ratio consistent with Fe2O3. The red material in all four WTC dust samples was similar in this way. Iron oxide was found in the pre-ignition material whereas elemental iron was not.
                            6. From the presence of elemental aluminum and iron oxide in the red material, we conclude that it contains the ingredients of thermite.
                            7. As measured using DSC, the material ignites and reacts vigorously at a temperature of approximately 430 °C, with a rather narrow exotherm, matching fairly closely an independent observation on a known super-thermite sample. The low temperature of ignition and the presence of iron oxide grains less than 120 nm show that the material is not conventional thermite (which ignites at temperatures above 900 °C) but very likely a form of super-thermite.
                            8. After igniting several red/gray chips in a DSC run to 700 °C, we found numerous iron-rich spheres and spheroids in the residue, indicating that a very high temperature reaction had occurred, since the iron-rich product clearly must have been molten to form these shapes. In several spheres, elemental iron was verified since the iron content significantly exceeded the oxygen content. We conclude that a high-temperature reduction-oxidation reaction has occurred in the heated chips, namely, the thermite reaction.
                            9. The spheroids produced by the DSC tests and by the flame test have an XEDS signature (Al, Fe, O, Si, C) which is depleted in carbon and aluminum relative to the original red material. This chemical signature strikingly matches the chemical signature of the spheroids produced by igniting commercial thermite, and also matches the signatures of many of the microspheres found in the WTC dust [5].
                            10. The carbon content of the red material indicates that an organic substance is present. This would be expected for super-thermite formulations in order to produce high gas pressures upon ignition and thus make them explosive. The nature of the organic material in these chips merits further exploration. We note that it is likely also an energetic material, in that the total energy release sometimes observed in DSC tests exceeds the theoretical maximum energy of the classic thermite reaction.
                            Based on these observations, we conclude that the red layer of the red/gray chips we have discovered in the WTC dust is active, unreacted thermitic material, incorporating nanotechnology, and is a highly energetic pyrotechnic or explosive material.
                            (emphasis added)

                            Complete Article
                            http://www.bentham-open.org/pages/co...001/7TOCPJ.SGM

                            Article at:http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.p...t=va&aid=13049
                            OMG please stop - the bankers did that to

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                            • #15
                              Re: New Thermite?

                              Excuse me, but why don't you guys put all the chatter about WTC conspiracies right out of your minds and just get a little interested in the Thermite find? They found it, and thermite has no business in a civilian skyscraper in downtown Manhattan. Thermite itself has no business anywhere in downtown Manhattan.

                              Screw World Trade Center dark mysteries. Just concentrate on whether thermite can plausibly exist in one of the tallest skyscrapers in NYC? That would be the *objective* method of inquiry.

                              Don must be banging his head against a wall by now and moaning about the irrational posts proliferating here.

                              F O R G E T T H E W O R L D T R A D E C E N T E R conspiracy theories and C O N C E N T R A T E on this set of carefully logged findings instead. Make iTulip proud, that you are all 100% agnostic.

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