What happened to "Favorite ways of trading long oil"?

[Glenn Black]

Re: What happened to "Favorite ways of trading long oil"?

Check out itulip's copyright page. Subscriber and non-subscriber alike, all postings are jointly owned by both itulip and the poster. Jointly.

If one partner decides to throw out partnership property (ie. one man's Mona Lisa is another man's paint-by-numbers), what can we expect the other partner to say when they find their masterpiece is missing?

To me, it seems that itulip cannot throw away postings that meet the standard acceptability criteria. FRED however, does have the capability to lock down any thread, prohibiting further postings to that thread. This could be used when it is treading on the paid side. Last post would be FRED's, stating the reasons.

Sound fair?

[cjppjc]

Re: What happened to "Favorite ways of trading long oil"?

Check out itulip's copyright page. Subscriber and non-subscriber alike, all postings are jointly owned by both itulip and the poster. Jointly.

If one partner decides to throw out partnership property (ie. one man's Mona Lisa is another man's paint-by-numbers), what can we expect the other partner to say when they find their masterpiece is missing?

To me, it seems that itulip cannot throw away postings that meet the standard acceptability criteria. FRED however, does have the capability to lock down any thread, prohibiting further postings to that thread. This could be used when it is treading on the paid side. Last post would be FRED's, stating the reasons.

Sound fair?

Fred has already weighed in on this yesterday. I take him at his word.



Moving a non-subscriber thread to the subscriber area was not the right thing to do. We have done it twice, but will not do it again.

[audrey_girl]

Re: Is there a new policy?

Sorry to come off sounding snarky Audrey_girl. To tell you the truth, there's one thing that set me off - that's people who have been gobbling up tons of free content for ages, have posted their views far and wide on these pages on everything imaginable with luxurious freedom, and are now reclined in comfortable armchairs with the air of princelings to the manor born, acting as though they own the place. I'm absolutely 100% comfortable with all that - it's just that when such members then begin to emit petulant noises, about some small infringement of their "liberties", that one has the impulse to point out to them: "but look how many liberties you already enjoy here, as a purely free service that you've taken for granted for years now?". That is the thought in the back of my mind. Do you ever have the same thought, after noting how comfortably settled in some of our long standing free members sound on occasion? Or is this observation merely snarky?

My record here has been to consistently vote, in fact to vote emphatically, for the rights of any and everyone to freely have their say. I really mean that - I even take it to an absolutely literal extreme sometimes that others may find unacceptable. And I agree, taking someone's public comment from this segment of the website and making it no longer available to that public member is "awkward". But there is a much larger point that gets glossed over. That person has been reclined on some sort of splendid princelings couch here, declaiming about this that and the other, for a year or more, with no formal introduction to this place, or his place within it, than merely having wandered over and taken a free seat. During all the time since, such people (and I'm certainly not talking only about $#* here) take it for granted that they will be informed, advised, entertained and amused, all due to this wonderfully spontaneous idea of EJ's to set this place up and make all that info available to them as a wonderful free circus to stimulate their minds.

When such people have gotten to looking really comfortable, and then they start to sound peevish about the management's small discrepancies, while test-flying their "serious breach of ethics" nostrums, somewhere an almost irresistible urge comes up to offer them a boot in the derriere, in a friendly sort of way. You might call it sort of a "nudge" to wake up and realise what they have been offered for free every day for 12 or 18 months before they lazily decided to throw a couple of b0nars into the contributions tray. This is the sort of conceit that occasionally grates on me. I hope I can be forgiven for having lost it a bit in consequence, as unfortunately even if I'm not forgiven, you will not find me particularly penitent on this question.

BTW - this is in no way a distinction I'm drawing between the "relative merits" of paying vs. non paying members. I see both as strictly equal.

no problemo lukester

actually, I agree with you on this issue. I have no problem paying for value and I find great value in this site..

again - imho



cheers -

ag

[Sharky]

Re: What happened to "Favorite ways of trading long oil"?

Now that the thread has been moved to Rant and Rave...

fred sometimes posts ej's articles so you have to look. fred is clearly an admin and does not write. at least i can' recall a fred byline.

I was thinking about post content and writing style, not article authorship. Turns out I may be right. A search turned up the following post:

http://www.itulip.com/forums/showpos...6&postcount=11

In case you're wondering–and I got the impression from a conversation with qwerty today that many of you are–the administrator known as "Fred" here is a "collective" person. Sometimes Mark, Candy, me, or others. I know that's not fair if you want to know "who you are communicating with" but as there is a lot of travel involved it's convenient to have a "Fred" responsible for the role of posting material written by others, fixing spelling and other errors after postings, and other administrative duties. Hope that's not too confusing.

If you want to know where the name "Fred" came from, it's a take-off on the Fed's name for their database. It's called the Federal Reserve Economic Data or FRED for short, and it's a hold-over from early iTulip days when Greenspan was flying high and Fed bashing was not yet popular. Recommended reading: iTulip Greenspan Interview

This of course makes me wonder whether Mark and Candy also have accounts of their own... I'm also curious who is in the photo that's FRED's icon. Anyone know?

[cjppjc]

Re: What happened to "Favorite ways of trading long oil"?

I'm also curious who is in the photo that's FRED's icon. Anyone know?

Aldous Huxley.