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    Just a thread I'd like to get started where I dump everything I've learned about the inflation/deflation debate in one place in crisp summarized statements.

    - demand shocks, mainly caused by excess unproductive credit growth that is not sustained (since unproductive debt growth is obviously unsustainable), send the economy into an output gap, diminish credit growth and deflate asset prices and the CPI

    - it is a matter of time before the monetary authorities stimulate the economy back to full output; the free market also has means of restoring full output but under the modern set-up, these means are obstructed from running their course by laws, welfare provisions and the fact that the economy expects the authorities to act; i.e. it is addicted to stimulus and as a result needs the stimulus to recover

    - the longer an output gap drags on, the more damage is done to potential output through hysteresis and capital flight; this is the main conduit via which a deflationary situation turns into an inflationary one; stimulus will at a certain point restore full output but the question is, WHERE IS full output at that point; if there has been a long standing output gap, it most likely is NOT at the pre-crisis trend level

    - the government can not reduce its spending during the output gap lest the deflationary forces are reinforced; this means that government spending remains more or less stable as a proportion to pre-crisis trend output growth; here in lies the problem: the economy does not recover to the trend rate, but government spending goes on as if it will

    - when the stimulus gets the economy out of its output gap, NAIRU (the level of unemployment at which inflation starts to get out of control) is reached sooner than anyone expects and suddenly it becomes clear that government spending is structurally too high; by this time however, it is too late to cut back on it; inflation is the only escape

    - inflation engineering is always worse than people expect because smart investors flee out of fixed income denominated in the currency in question before it happens; they price in inflation premiums; hence, the rent-extraction that inflation engineering constitutes leeches off the "dumb money" only; if there is, say, only half as much capital to leech from, twice as much inflation engineering has to be engaged in to get the same results; this is one reason why inflation easily spirals out of control

    - another reason why inflation is impossible to contain once it's left out of the bottle is because the taboo on breaking monetary targets is broken; if the central bank brazenly disregarded and violated its inflation promises before, why do you trust it when it makes a new promise?


    - another issue: from Steve Keen's work we know that if the central bank only stabilizes the CPI and does not induce debt-to-GDP growth in the private sector, asset prices have to fall since they were being propped up by credit driven demand. This destroys the banking system and prompts the central bank and government to act through measures such as TARP. In the long run, inflation has to be sent above it's regular target to protect nominal asset prices. This is another explanation as to why inflation is inevitable under the current set of systems and rules.

    - I expect that at a certain point, a TARP will be engaged in that the government KNOWS can only be funded by debt monetization. Let's call it the Weimar TARP. Or was TARP1 already a Weimar TARP?
    "It's not the end of the world, but you can see it from here." - Deus Ex HR

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    Re: Inflation/Deflation settled and summarized

    I don't get Steve Keen's views on inflation/deflation.

    The final stage in his model shows the CPI making a nose dive along with aggregate demand (NGDP). However, doesn't he see that this fall in CPI gives the federal reserve both the excuse and the leeway to start monetizing the government's debt?

    The hesitation happens on congress' end. At a certain point they stop spending money because it is "cheating" to let the central bank gobble it all up and erase it.

    I think the waiting is for that "taboo" to get broken. For people to start saying "we can spend into infinity because the central bank is on our side".

    Maybe Bernanke will have to start ripping up government paper ceremoniously. It would be a cosmetic act with no real consequences*, but it would get a message across.

    * if the treasuries are kept on the central bank balance sheet forever, the interest paid on it is just returned to the government as if the paper isn't there. Doesn't matter whether they "officially" tear it to pieces or just keep it on the balance sheet where it's irrelevant.
    "It's not the end of the world, but you can see it from here." - Deus Ex HR

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    • #3
      Re: Inflation/Deflation settled and summarized

      - demand shocks, mainly caused by excess unproductive credit growth that is not sustained (since unproductive debt growth is obviously unsustainable), send the economy into an output gap, diminish credit growth and deflate asset prices and the CPI

      - it is a matter of time before the monetary authorities stimulate the economy back to full output; the free market also has means of restoring full output but under the modern set-up, these means are obstructed from running their course by laws, welfare provisions and the fact that the economy expects the authorities to act; i.e. it is addicted to stimulus and as a result needs the stimulus to recover

      - the longer an output gap drags on, the more damage is done to potential output through hysteresis and capital flight; this is the main conduit via which a deflationary situation turns into an inflationary one; stimulus will at a certain point restore full output but the question is, WHERE IS full output at that point; if there has been a long standing output gap, it most likely is NOT at the pre-crisis trend level


      I really am a massive Bear and I still need to keep myself from thinking too optimistically.

      What's wrong with the above is of course that the economy is operating way, way above the real potential output when the deflation sets in. Credit induced bubble growth caused the deflation, so the situation prior to the onset of the output gap can hardly be called "normal"...
      "It's not the end of the world, but you can see it from here." - Deus Ex HR

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        Re: Inflation/Deflation settled and summarized



        I'll use this graph from Steve Keen to illustrate my pessimistic interpretation of the situation.

        Mainstream economists think, like I wrongly described in the quote in the post above, that the red line needs to be returned to it's trend. That's relatively easy to do and the only risk that would manifest would be hysteresis if the output gap is kept around for too long.

        In reality, to save the banking system, they need to stimulate the BLACK line to it's trend using monetization based government deficit spending.
        "It's not the end of the world, but you can see it from here." - Deus Ex HR

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        • #5
          Re: Inflation/Deflation settled and summarized

          Every once in a while I take a look at Kessler Investment Advisors, to check the health of the greatest Treasury Bull around. Well he posted a nice chart of the output gap, showing it in percentage terms and real dollar terms.

          Not much new here, but the different presentation helped me get the point.

          http://www.kesslercompanies.com/pdf/...y-12142012.pdf

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          • #6
            Re: Inflation/Deflation settled and summarized

            I like that graphic, but I think the assumption that a lot of people are making, that potential output keeps going more or less along it's pre-crisis trend, is way, way over-optimistic. Hysteresis and capital flight (mainly via cost-push inflation due to the commodity market getting bid up through the Hotelling price effect) make the potential output line level off, to the point of destroying *most* rather than some of the lost output. What is going to happen is what happened in Japan: there they don't count the difference between the 80s' trend and the post-crisis trend as "lost potential output" anymore. They just account for it as if it's lost forever.
            "It's not the end of the world, but you can see it from here." - Deus Ex HR

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              Re: Inflation/Deflation settled and summarized

              Originally posted by quigleydoor View Post
              Every once in a while I take a look at Kessler Investment Advisors, to check the health of the greatest Treasury Bull around. Well he posted a nice chart of the output gap, showing it in percentage terms and real dollar terms.

              Not much new here, but the different presentation helped me get the point.

              http://www.kesslercompanies.com/pdf/...y-12142012.pdf
              What confuses me about this article it the graph of the recovery and elimination of the output gap, e.g., at 3% growth (which is not bad at all) the gap won't close until 2020, which implies from reading the earlier part of the article that disinlfationary forces will remain since the output gap is the delta between supply and demand. By this logic then, we can have 3% real growth and no inflation for the next 7 years ... all the while with ZIRP and QE .... and asset price inflation?

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              • #8
                Re: Inflation/Deflation settled and summarized

                Originally posted by vinoveri View Post
                What confuses me about this article it the graph of the recovery and elimination of the output gap, e.g., at 3% growth (which is not bad at all) the gap won't close until 2020, which implies from reading the earlier part of the article that disinlfationary forces will remain since the output gap is the delta between supply and demand. By this logic then, we can have 3% real growth and no inflation for the next 7 years ... all the while with ZIRP and QE .... and asset price inflation?
                That's why I think it's too optimistic. Potential output doesn't stay that high for that long. And the thing you've got to realize is that the government needs to keep up deficit spending for those 7 years to keep growth at that level. That's another implication of the "output gap": that private spending is not enough to keep the economy going. Which of course becomes a problem when suddenly potential output falls short of these lofty projections.
                "It's not the end of the world, but you can see it from here." - Deus Ex HR

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                • #9
                  Re: Inflation/Deflation settled and summarized

                  looks like he's a 'tuliper ?
                  in that he also acks a scenario where 'the gap never gets filled' - something i've not seen ack'd (much) elsewhere

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                  • #10
                    Re: Inflation/Deflation settled and summarized

                    Here's Cochrane's picture of how American consumption has "downshifted" since 2008:



                    A graph of GDP will look the same. But look at any rich country, and chances are that it experienced the same kind of "permanent downshift" in its consumption after 2008! European countries. Japan. Or look at the graphs for other countries that experienced financial crises - Japan and Sweden after 1990. Korea after 1997. And so on. They all look pretty much the same - a long trend, followed by an abrupt fall, followed by a resumption of growth at the previous trend but at a lower level. Here are two from Sweden and Korea:




                    Looks familiar, right?


                    http://noahpinionblog.blogspot.com/2013/02/on-iatrogenic-explanation-of-post.html

                    Support for my argument from this Noah Smith post.
                    "It's not the end of the world, but you can see it from here." - Deus Ex HR

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                    • #11
                      Re: Inflation/Deflation settled and summarized

                      http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...ew-cbo-report/

                      This gave me a bit of a laugh. This guy looks at the ridiculously spun, over-optimistic projections of the CBO and dares call them "depressing", as if the reality isn't orders of magnitude worse than what they're showing you.
                      "It's not the end of the world, but you can see it from here." - Deus Ex HR

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