My Friends ………..it time to push back!

[Mega]

My Friends ………..it time to push back!

I hope EJ doesn’t mind this hi-jack of his site, but I feel strongly the time has come to fight back. I am not advocating violence, “They” can handle violence….they are very good at it. Just ask the peoples of Iraq, afgan, Pakistan Vietnam…..”They” are happy to dish it out.

They got:- Troops/police/FBI/CIA/NSA……lots of guns, lots of jails…..”They” be delighted if you struck at them in this way. They scream “Terrorist” in much the same way they used to scream “Commie”………then dance all over you.

We need to fight them, but on a smarter level….in a way that they can’t react to, we need to find an effective plan that we cut the ground from under them. I think Max Keisers “ J P MORGAN/Silver” campaign is a good one………it will hurt, but we need more.

We need to try to form a cause, we need to get political & “Threaten” the system. Sure those computer controlled Die-bold machines are going to be tough to beat. Perhaps we need to look back to the 60’s to see the way forward:-

Basic platform:-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bU3DtBq1uDA&feature=related


Look, am open to idea’s……your bright people……lets see what we can come up with?

Mike

[Mega]

Re: My Friends ………..it time to push back!

Try this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bU3DtBq1uDA&feature=related

[flintlock]

Re: My Friends ………..it time to push back!

I agree, but just look at what they are doing to Assange. Any successful movement will be met with the same tactics. Best bet would be to simply refuse to re-elect any of them. Even down to your local politicians. Quit making politics so damn lucrative.

[Mega]

Re: My Friends ………..it time to push back!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-11953186

The time is right.
Mike

[DSpencer]

Re: My Friends ………..it time to push back!

I agree...but there's a few problems:

1. What are we pushing back against? Loss of our rights? Political corruption? Out of control spending/deficits/taxes? Monetary policy? Wars?

2. Nobody wants to be the first or part of a small group. One day you're fighting for freedom, the next you're in jail on an obviously bogus charge of rape.

3. People are busy and things aren't bad enough on the surface for them to risk their jobs or money. Also most people are tied into the system one way or another. Either they're welfare recipients or they're somehow tied to lobbyist protected companies/industries.

Technology helps though. Communication is the key. People need to feel the strength of numbers.

[shiny!]

Re: My Friends ………..it time to push back!

I'm with you, Mike. My suggestion is for every individual to do their personal best to Starve the Beast legally. Get off the consumer merry-go-round. I don't mean move to a cabin in the mountains, completely off the grid, surrounded by guns.

I mean, stop spending money on things we don't really need. Live frugally. Just imagine if everyone realized that we don't have to work so hard or earn so much if we just cut back to a simple, frugal lifestyle. The government that depends on income taxes would not get the taxes it needs to fund its overspending and repression. The TBTF banks and mega-corporations, with their obscene profits, would wither away if people cut back on their consumption by 50-75%. We can Starve the Beast legally, and they can't arrest us for it!

Pull your money out of the Big Banks and put it into local Community Banks and Credit Unions. Start using cash and save the credit card for emergencies only. If you use the CC, don't charge more than you can pay off every month.

Instead of buying expensive presents on credit, make gifts by hand. Support local farmers and artisans by shopping at a Farmer's Market.

Stop paying hundreds of dollars a month for luxuries like Cable TV, electronic gadgets and cell phones.

Buy recycled goods, i.e., shop at Thrift stores instead of Department stores. If you care about such things, you can get designer clothing at thrift stores for pennies on the dollar.

If legal, trade and barter when possible.

Cut fuel expenditures. If possible, walk or ride a bicycle or scooter instead of driving the big Truck/Car/SUV.

I've just bought a book to learn how far my husband and I can go to trim expenses and live off of almost nothing. Doing this, we can better weather the hard times ahead. If hard times don't hit us, at least we'll be saving a lot for retirement. We might even be able to cut back on our work and pay less in taxes. The book is called "Early Retirement Extreme: A philosophical and practical guide to financial independence":

http://www.amazon.com/Early-Retireme...1915701&sr=8-1

[mliu_01]

Re: My Friends ………..it time to push back!

First of all, there are so many people that simple don't want to believe there are "THEY".
So many people don't believe:
"THEY" are out there and killing us slowly. "They" are poisoning our water, our air and our food. "They" are taking our rights and our wealth. "They" want to force us to take vaccine. etc...

While we figuring out what we should do, we have to educate all others about all that things that is going on. It takes time. One thing that is very clear to me, If we little people are not on the same page, We can't not fight with "THEY", no matter what method we use. "THEY" don't have many people, But they are very very good at divide us and have us fight among ourselves. So to me the most important thing is to have everyone understand what is really going on.

[Down Under]

Re: My Friends ………..it time to push back!

I agree, but just look at what they are doing to Assange. Any successful movement will be met with the same tactics. Best bet would be to simply refuse to re-elect any of them. Even down to your local politicians. Quit making politics so damn lucrative.

Yer, vote out the incumbents, is a way forward. And, keep doing it until the message is heard.

P.S. "Vote out the incumbents" is another member's idea, Raja's I think.

[shiny!]

Re: My Friends ………..it time to push back!

Yer, vote out the incumbents, is a way forward. And, keep doing it until the message is heard.

P.S. "Vote out the incumbents" is another member's idea, Raja's I think.

One, we don't always have the option to vote out the incumbents. In the lase election I had the option of voting for McCain, whom I despise, or a liberal Democrat. What choice is that? We seriously need an option for "None of the Above" for every race on every ballot.

Two, even if we vote out the incumbents, the new pols aren't any better because they're beholden to the same donors before they even get sworn in. "In with the new boss, same as the old boss".

Money is what drives this circus, and lack of money is the only thing that will bring it down. That's why I say to vote with our pocketbooks and refuse to play anymore. Starve the Beast.

[*T*]

Re: My Friends ………..it time to push back!

Already with you mike. See #payback and #dayx3 and #demo2010 on twitter. The revolution is not being televised. It is on the interwebs. Wikileaks exposed state sponsored kidnapping murder torture and even pimping of small boys (not joking) by us govt its contractors and my govt. It is not just tittle tattle. They are still just warmimg up. The British middle and working classes are waking up. We have the technology to self organise. Today they were attempting to storm the treasury. Next time we will succeed.

[Kadriana]

Re: My Friends ………..it time to push back!

Already with you mike. See #payback and #dayx3 and #demo2010 on twitter. The revolution is not being televised. It is on the interwebs. Wikileaks exposed state sponsored kidnapping murder torture and even pimping of small boys (not joking) by us govt its contractors and my govt. It is not just tittle tattle. They are still just warmimg up. The British middle and working classes are waking up. We have the technology to self organise. Today they were attempting to storm the treasury. Next time we will succeed.

What is going on Westminster Bridge and is it still going on?

[Mega]

Re: My Friends ………..it time to push back!

"T"
http://maxkeiser.com/2010/12/09/the-...al-generation/

Smart Lad

[Mega]

Re: My Friends ………..it time to push back!

"T"
Also Smart Lad
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHn5M2At2R8

[*T*]

Re: My Friends ………..it time to push back!

One guy promised this

He decided "personal pledge" meant "only if I feel like it", so this happened


The kids -- that's who most of them are, kids -- are self-organising and now using side streets to evade kettling (a form of unlawful detention and collective punishment by the police).

The 1000 or so chaps on westminster bridge of course had no side streets, so they got kettled for about 8 hours with no access to food, water or toilets. Supporters apparently were throwing bread up from below. This is a view from above


I wasn't physically there, by the way. I was, ironically, conducting an exam.

Here is an eyewitness account

Eventually, when the protests had died down and people were desperate to go home, a group of around 1000 protesters were finally escorted to westminster bridge to exit, however this was a trick. What then happened was we were held on the bridge for hours in the freezing cold. The crowd remained calm, but after hours of freezing people began to chant 'let us out' and then the crowd pushed forwards. Being small I was carried by the crowd and ended up by the police line. I was tired and cold and hadn't eaten for 12 hours of had any water.
I screamed at the police not to hurt me because i was being pushed but they still went for my face almost pulling me to the floor. A man to my right put his arms over my face screaming ' Leave her alone, she's a girl, she's not harming you' but the police began to hit him several times on the head.

[Mega]

Re: My Friends ………..it time to push back!

........& this IS just the start...........wait till the REAL cut arrive!

Its a dark cold winter, followed by a LONG HOT SUMMER!