Taibbi on the Race-baiting Trend

[oddlots]

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+1. The Klan and Aryan Nation are also fringe minorities, but no one gets their knickers in a knot when their racist antics are called out. Why should the New Black Pather Party (or Obama's pastor "Rev." Wright) get a free pass? Double standard.

Shame on Matt Taibbi for playing the race card.

That makes no sense. Taibbi can't be playing the race card if he's playing what's been clearly dealt. Re-read please:

• On July 12, Glenn Beck implied that the Obama government was going to aid the New Black Panther Party in starting a race war, with the ultimate aim of killing white babies. "They want a race war. We must be peaceful people. They are going to poke, and poke, and poke, and our government is going to stand by and let them do it." He also said that "we must take the role of Martin Luther King, because I do not believe that Martin Luther King believed in, 'Kill all white babies.'"
• CNN contributor and Redstate.com writer Erick Erickson, on the Panther mess: "Republican candidates nationwide should seize on this issue. The Democrats are giving a pass to radicals who advocate killing white kids in the name of racial justice and who try to block voters from the polls."
• On July 6, the Washington Times columnist J. Christian Adams wrote an editorial insisting that "top [Obama] appointees have allowed and even encouraged race-based enforcement as either tacit or open policy," marking one of what would become many assertions by commentators that the Obama administration was no longer interested in protecting the rights of white people. "The Bush Civil Rights Division was willing to protect all Americans from racial discrimination,” Adams wrote. “During the Obama years, the Holder years, only some Americans will be protected."
• July 12: Rush Limbaugh says Obama and Attorney General Eric Holder “protect and represent” the New Black Panther party.
• July 28: Rush says Supreme Court decision on 1070 strips Arizonans of their rights to defend themselves against an “invasion”: "I guess the judge is saying it's not in the public interest for Arizona to try to defend itself from an invasion. I don't know how you look at this with any sort of common sense and come to the ruling this woman came to.” That same day, Rush says this: "Muslim terrorists are going to have a field day in Arizona. You cannot ask them where they're from. You cannot even act like we know where they're from. You cannot ask them for their papers. We can ask you for yours. Not them."
• July 29: The Washington Times asks “Should Arizona Secede?” and says the Supreme Court "is unilaterally disarming the people of Arizona in the face of a dangerous enemy” with the aim of creating a “socialist superstate.” The paper writes: "The choice is becoming starkly apparent: devolution or dissolution."
• July 29, Fox and Friends host Steve Doocy continues the Radio Rwanda theme, saying, "If the feds won't protect the people and Governor Brewer can't protect her citizens, what are the people of Arizona supposed to do?"

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GB has a huge bullhorn keenly attuned to a huge audience's prejudices. Hence he "makes" news. There is literally no-one of equivalent status on the other side of that dialogue, except for the "fringe groups" he himself upgrades to fighting weight in order to knock down.

In this context comparisons between right versus left pet bete noires are ludicrous.

[BuckarooBanzai]

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The left always turns to the race card, the right to the socialist card. so what else is new?

Well, the difference is that socialism has made tremendous forward strides in the US since 1913. That fact is positively inarguable, by any reasonable person. Can you say the same about racism? Racism will never completely go away but frankly it seems to me that, if racists had made the same kind of progress as socialists have in the last 100 years, then the KKK would pretty much be in charge of everything by now.

[BuckarooBanzai]

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I can't help noticing your sources. Rolling Stone? New Yorker? These are about as left-leaning as they come. No reasonable person can quote these sources in a partisan debate and pretend that they reflect objective reality.

[mesyn191]

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The left always turns to the race card, the right to the socialist card. so what else is new?

Did you not read the article and its quotes from prominent right wing advocates/sources making racially charged statements? He is commenting on what they said, so how can you play this off as some sort of manufactured agenda by the "left"? Are you now going to seriously argue that the "left" made Glenn Beck say that Obama planned to start a race war?

+1. The Klan and Aryan Nation are also fringe minorities, but no one gets their knickers in a knot when their racist antics are called out. Why should the New Black Pather Party (or Obama's pastor "Rev." Wright) get a free pass? Double standard.

Shame on Matt Taibbi for playing the race card.

BigBagel already addressed this several posts up but I guess you missed it:

No one has a problem with calling out the crap that Black Panthers pull, no one ever said otherwise. The problem is with representing the actions of a very very tiny few (whose actions BTW were not approved of) as being representative of an entire group. Now there a lot of people on the right who are making some very racially charged statements and no one on the right is calling them on their bullshit, in fact they seem to do the opposite.

If Beck or Limbaugh have got proof to back up what they're saying (ie. Obama wants to start the Black Power state to kill white babies) then they should present it. Otherwise at best they're just the new incarnation of McCarthy-ism, at worst they're just crass shills selling out to the highest bidder or drumming up sales for their latest book or "event". Bear in mind too that some of these supposedly nationalistic conservative news sources are talking seriously about seceding from the US due to all the horrible socialism we seem to be having lately too.

Never no mind that Obama is about as socialist as Bush was, or that seceding would probably lead to a modern version of the Civil War, or even that the initial reason (claims that the desert around AZ cities near the border were full of beheaded bodies) turns out to be total nonsense.

Oh wait no they're just making stuff up don't you see, all just a joke to fool the left with my seeecret master plan of "Media Tweaks"!!

[doom&gloom]

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I still stand by what I said -- if the laws were being uniformly enforced AS WRITTEN, there would be no "bait" for the right to be "race baiting" with, now would there?

as to socialism, the country hs slowly been moving socialistic since FDR, however that never stops the right from labelling the left as socialists, and the left ALWAYS trots out the race card when there is no other defense of their actions such as not prosecuting the Panthers, or now th ridiculous charges about the "ground zero mosque". There again the left spins up race where there is no race issue, and most of te country ses it the same way as the right. But that is still not gonna stop them. They even tried it with the drunk kid who slashed the cabbie when there was no such evidence the guy was on the right. SOP.

Meanwhile Beck, Limbaugh et al play off the socialist diatribe all the time because it works. Communism/socialism has always been the enemy of the right. There again they are wrong as Obama is a Kleptocrat and a Korporatist, and really nowhere near a socialist. The only people benefitting under Obama are the wealthy and connected.

[goadam1]

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move to rant and rave.

[doom&gloom]

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i didn't start the thread, I am just pointing out the disingenuous posturing by both sides. selective enforcement of the laws allows this to happen, enforce the laws, the issues go away. but then, the ruling elite would not have bread and circus for us to be fixated on as they loot the country.

[don]

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follow the money....

The Imam of the now infamous “ground zero mosque” is a member of the ultra elitist Council On Foreign Relations and receives financial backing from powerful globalist sources including the Rockefellers and the Carnegie Corporation. This information provides a compelling backdrop to the theory that the move to establish the mosque is a deliberate attempt to further stoke religious tensions and divert attention away from the real enemy of free humanity, the corporate globalist elite who continue to profit from global war and division.

The proposed mosque, to be known as Cordoba House is the project of the Cordoba Initiative, an organisation founded by ‘Imam’ Feisal Abdul Rauf (pictured above), who, in addition to being a member of the World Economic Forum’s Council of 100, is an active member of the Council on Foreign Relations’ Religious Advisory Committee.

The Cordoba Initiative’s website cites “Christian support for the Cordoba House” in the form of Christian publication, “Sojourners”, which is owned by evangelical Christian writer and political activist Jim Wallis, also coincidentally a sitting member of the CFR’s Religious Advisory Committee.

The CFR, as regular readers know, is populated exclusively by major players with the biggest corporations, banks and defence contractors in the world – all of whom are making vast profits and securing more power from continued global conflict. The CFR also exerts far reaching influence over the U.S. government.

Tony Cartalucci at landdestroyer blog breaks down the fact that every single leading player in both the neocon infested Bush administration and the “change” gang under Barrack Obama is a CFR luminary. Cartalucci also provides further stunning research relating to Cordoba House and its CFR Imam, which breaks down as follows.

Feisal Abdul Rauf also heads up the American Society for Muslim Advancement (ASMA) which enjoys a partnership with the Cordoba Initiative and provided $100 million to secure the site close to ground zero for the mosque to be built.
That $100 million came directly from the back pockets of ASMA’s financial backers.

According to ASMA’s website they include the Carnegie Corporation of New York, Rockefeller Brothers, Rockefeller Philanthropy, and the Rockefeller Brothers Fund – essentially the tip of the pyramid of the international globalist elite.

This story is a perfect microcosm of the new world order agenda.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/ground-z...st-stooge.html

[don]

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in related news....

Over the July 4th weekend, a summit called Texas Defending the American Dream took place in a chilly hotel ballroom in Austin. Though Koch freely promotes his philanthropic ventures, he did not attend the summit, and his name was not in evidence. And on this occasion the audience was roused not by a dance performance but by a series of speakers denouncing President Barack Obama. Peggy Venable, the organizer of the summit, warned that Administration officials “have a socialist vision for this country.”

Five hundred people attended the summit, which served, in part, as a training session for Tea Party activists in Texas. An advertisement cast the event as a populist uprising against vested corporate power. “Today, the voices of average Americans are being drowned out by lobbyists and special interests,” it said. “But you can do something about it.” The pitch made no mention of its corporate funders.

“What they don’t say is that, in part, this is a grassroots citizens’ movement brought to you by a bunch of oil billionaires.”

At the lectern in Austin Venable—a longtime political operative who draws a salary from Americans for Prosperity, and who has worked for Koch-funded political groups since 1994—spoke less warily. “We love what the Tea Parties are doing, because that’s how we’re going to take back America!” she declared, as the crowd cheered. In a subsequent interview, she described herself as an early member of the movement, joking, “I was part of the Tea Party before it was cool!” She explained that the role of Americans for Prosperity was to help “educate” Tea Party activists on policy details, and to give them “next-step training” after their rallies, so that their political energy could be channelled “more effectively.” And she noted that Americans for Prosperity had provided Tea Party activists with lists of elected officials to target. She said of the Kochs, “They’re certainly our people. David’s the chairman of our board. I’ve certainly met with them, and I’m very appreciative of what they do.”

With his brother Charles, who is seventy-four, David Koch owns virtually all of Koch Industries, a conglomerate, headquartered in Wichita, Kansas, whose annual revenues are estimated to be a hundred billion dollars. The company has grown spectacularly since their father, Fred, died, in 1967, and the brothers took charge. The Kochs operate oil refineries in Alaska, Texas, and Minnesota, and control some four thousand miles of pipeline. Koch Industries owns Brawny paper towels, Dixie cups, Georgia-Pacific lumber, Stainmaster carpet, and Lycra, among other products. Forbes ranks it as the second-largest private company in the country, after Cargill, and its consistent profitability has made David and Charles Koch—who, years ago, bought out two other brothers—among the richest men in America. Their combined fortune of thirty-five billion dollars is exceeded only by those of Bill Gates and Warren Buffett.

The Kochs are longtime libertarians who believe in drastically lower personal and corporate taxes, minimal social services for the needy, and much less oversight of industry—especially environmental regulation. These views dovetail with the brothers’ corporate interests. In a study released this spring, the University of Massachusetts at Amherst’s Political Economy Research Institute named Koch Industries one of the top ten air polluters in the United States.

A Republican campaign consultant who has done research on behalf of Charles and David Koch said of the Tea Party, “The Koch brothers gave the money that founded it. It’s like they put the seeds in the ground. Then the rainstorm comes, and the frogs come out of the mud—and they’re our candidates!”

The Kochs and their political operatives declined requests for interviews.

Where we headin' ?

Dunno....

[flintlock]

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The extreme wings of both parties get all the press. Glen Beck is no crazier than many left wing talk idiots. He's just better at it. The Sheeple will probably be following the best dancer 50 years from now. It's all just entertainment.

[doom&gloom]

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The right has their Koch's, the left their Soros', and the avge man on the street has a big bill to pay and no clue how to pay it.

[doom&gloom]

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'zacktly! except some people take it all to serious and take their eye off the ball. it is all political majic trics -- keep the audience looking somewhere else while you fleece them.

[vinoveri]

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Irony alert. Decrying a government that "allows" a mosque? What part of a libertarian, small government ideal gives it the right to allow or disallow establishment of a church of any sort anywhere in the US?

The local government should decide via the desires and will of the constituents which hopefully will be informed by the purpose of the mosque.

Where is the funding for the it coming from? If from local muslim community, then it would appear to be a religious mosque to serve the interest of the muslim community. If the funding is from Saudi Arabia or another islamic state, then the purpose may be more political than religious, and ideal of the "free exercise of religion" is less applicable.

[don]

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Where is the funding for the it coming from? If from local muslim community, then it would appear to be a religious mosque to serve the interest of the muslim community. If the funding is from Saudi Arabia or another islamic state, then the purpose may be more political than religious, and ideal of the "free exercise of religion" is less applicable.

Feisal Abdul Rauf also heads up the American Society for Muslim Advancement (ASMA) which enjoys a partnership with the Cordoba Initiative and provided $100 million to secure the site close to ground zero for the mosque to be built.

That $100 million came directly from the back pockets of ASMA’s financial backers.

According to ASMA’s website they include the Carnegie Corporation of New York, Rockefeller Brothers, Rockefeller Philanthropy, and the Rockefeller Brothers Fund – essentially the tip of the pyramid of the international globalist elite.

[Jeff]

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However, most on the right are unaware of their cocks\\\\\Kochs, whereas Soros is pretty obvious about it.

(Please tell me someone else is old enough to get the referenced backslashes, and that all recognize this as a juvenile attempt at humor, rather than an infantile political attack.