The U.S. is broken. What country isn't?

[LazyBoy]

My impression is that much of the financial crisis is fairly worldwide.

But there are aspects of the financial crises and other problems that are U.S. centric. The more I think about

• the bailouts (I don't want to pay for them.),
• our foreign policy (It doesn't represent me.),
• the general sense of entitlement,
• the general sense of superiority,
• the stupidity of people, companies and all levels of government that borrowed money to get by during good times and are hosed now that bad times are here,
• the political systems and parties that don't represent the people,
• the sheer overhead of our government
• the power that corporations have,
• the abuses of Wall Street,
• and the erosion of our civil rights,

the more I wonder where these things are better.

Are there any fiscally sound & responsible countries out there? Well run, democratic ones?

Yes, my daydreams are of running away, not fixing the country. It's too big a mess for me to clean up. Fixing it will take lifetimes and may not even start during mine. But where to go?

[touchring]

Re: The U.S. is broken. What country isn't?

Are there any fiscally sound & responsible countries out there? Well run, democratic ones?

The stability and wealth you see in some autocratic countries is deceptive. If there were political struggle leading to a change in government, this wealth can easily evaporate as privileged government officials and businessmen send their money and assets out of the country. There will also be a brain drain as capable people flee.

Besides, the highly controlled media in many autocratic countries ensure that most of the skeletons are kept in the closest until judgment day.

Therefore my opinion is that the US is far more stable than it looks.

[*T*]

Re: The U.S. is broken. What country isn't?

The U.S. is broken. What country isn't?

Norway? Relatively speaking, Switzerland?

[flintlock]

Re: The U.S. is broken. What country isn't?

I can't answer your question but boy did you nail the problems with the US.

[metalman]

Re: The U.S. is broken. What country isn't?

My impression is that much of the financial crisis is fairly worldwide.

But there are aspects of the financial crises and other problems that are U.S. centric. The more I think about

• the bailouts (I don't want to pay for them.),
• our foreign policy (It doesn't represent me.),
• the general sense of entitlement,
• the general sense of superiority,
• the stupidity of people, companies and all levels of government that borrowed money to get by during good times and are hosed now that bad times are here,
• the political systems and parties that don't represent the people,
• the sheer overhead of our government
• the power that corporations have,
• the abuses of Wall Street,
• and the erosion of our civil rights,

the more I wonder where these things are better.

Are there any fiscally sound & responsible countries out there? Well run, democratic ones?

Yes, my daydreams are of running away, not fixing the country. It's too big a mess for me to clean up. Fixing it will take lifetimes and may not even start during mine. But where to go?

you running for office? i'll vote for ya.

nah, didn't think so.

thing is everyone wants to bitch & complain but no one wants to get into the gutter with the pigs. can't blame them.

[Thailandnotes]

Re: The U.S. is broken. What country isn't?

But where to go?

Considered Haiti?

[cindykimlisa]

Re: The U.S. is broken. What country isn't?

The stability and wealth you see in some autocratic countries is deceptive. If there were political struggle leading to a change in government, this wealth can easily evaporate as privileged government officials and businessmen send their money and assets out of the country. There will also be a brain drain as capable people flee.

Besides, the highly controlled media in many autocratic countries ensure that most of the skeletons are kept in the closest until judgment day.

Therefore my opinion is that the US is far more stable than it looks.

You have to have functioning courts to make the system of government work

Cindy

[touchring]

Re: The U.S. is broken. What country isn't?

You have to have functioning courts to make the system of government work

Cindy

Courts that use jury tend to be fairer. Many countries don't use a jury system because the authority wants to decide who wins and who loses.

[Serge_Tomiko]

Re: The U.S. is broken. What country isn't?

Yes, my daydreams are of running away, not fixing the country. It's too big a mess for me to clean up. Fixing it will take lifetimes and may not even start during mine. But where to go?

"Fixing it" will not take lifetimes. There is no possible way the United States will survive in its present form within your lifetime, unless you are elderly. We have, at best, 20 years until until demographic changes will result in the balkanization of the country. I consider it unlikely we will ever reach that point.

The question is can you imagine a different kind of country and will you be willing to play an active role in creating it? If so, how much are you willing to risk?

There is a high probability civil war will come to our lands. Are you willing to fight?

If the prospect of social breakdown and civil war is more than you can stomach, emigration would be a good solution. Selection of a locale is going to be primarily limited to who will take you. That is something you'll have to research yourself.

[touchring]

Re: The U.S. is broken. What country isn't?

We have, at best, 20 years until until demographic changes will result in the balkanization of the country. I consider it unlikely we will ever reach that point. .

What sort of demographic changes? Do you know about the Fertility rate statistic?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...fertility_rate

[Serge_Tomiko]

Re: The U.S. is broken. What country isn't?

What sort of demographic changes? Do you know about the Fertility rate statistic?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...fertility_rate

I wasn't referring to world population, but increasing ethnic competition and strife due to the loss of a clear majority. Such a change in such a short amount of time has never occurred peacefully and there is no reason to think the United States will be any different.

[touchring]

Re: The U.S. is broken. What country isn't?

I wasn't referring to world population, but increasing ethnic competition and strife due to the loss of a clear majority. Such a change in such a short amount of time has never occurred peacefully and there is no reason to think the United States will be any different.

Increasing ethnic competition? The US is relatively homogeneous, wait till you come to a place like Singapore or Hong Kong where 2 out of 5 persons are foreigners.

[*T*]

Re: The U.S. is broken. What country isn't?

I wasn't referring to world population, but increasing ethnic competition and strife due to the loss of a clear majority. Such a change in such a short amount of time has never occurred peacefully and there is no reason to think the United States will be any different.

Yeah, and why doesn't my ignore list work on the email thread subscriptions?