The Austin Texas Bombing Is A HUGE Image Blow To The "Tea Party" Right

[D-Mack]

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Witnesses react to plane crash:

Runtime:4min.

Fire Department was ready




Jones has a field day with this in his home town, even an extra hour and Russia Today.
http://rss.infowars.com/20100218_Thu_Alex2.mp3

[flintlock]

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How long before they connect this event with the Tea Party and brand the Tea Party a terrorist organization?

While I do not agree with what this guy did, I also do not agree that violence is never the answer. Could the American revolution have ever occurred without violence? At what point does violence become acceptable? Self defense? New England was not being attacked by Britain in 1775. Nor were the circumstances anywhere close to being as oppressive then as they are now. People would laugh if they knew how paltry the taxes King George was collecting were then vs those today. Does that make our forefathers homicidal maniacs? Were they all just "loser" kooks who couldn't learn to just go along with the program? How many collective souls must approve of murder before it becomes acceptable? Ten? One hundred? A million?:confused: Its something to think about.

I read this guy's manifesto. Started out good, then dwindled into a pitiful relation of his inability to learn from his mistakes. Was he too trusting and naive? Possibly. But who in this day and age doesn't know the IRS is a bunch of snakes? You must act accordingly. He had a persecution complex, no doubt. But a lot of what he said in that second paragraph rang true.

[Serge_Tomiko]

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Maybe you guys can help. Almost immediately after the event, the government declared this was not a terrorist attack. A guy with a political agenda flies an airplane into a government building. Not even a color alert change, that I know of.

I'm confused.

Since 9/11, the government has worked rather feverishly to redefine terrorism to something akin to partisan warfare. When you hear the word "terrorist", you're supposed to think of the suicide bombers in Iraq, not 9/11. Nevermind the fact no one thought of kamikaze pilots in WWII as "terrorists" even though the effect is the same.

[flintlock]

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Since 9/11, the government has worked rather feverishly to redefine terrorism to something akin to partisan warfare. When you hear the word "terrorist", you're supposed to think of the suicide bombers in Iraq, not 9/11. Nevermind the fact no one thought of kamikaze pilots in WWII as "terrorists" even though the effect is the same.

Yep. Partisans in WWII would not be treated as terrorists today. In fact just the opposite. Yet Germans killed any they captured.

Insurgents in Iraq today are sometimes lumped in with Al-qaeda terrorists, but are they merely fighting for what they believe in? Are they that different from Partisans that fought from the woods and swamps of Belarus in WWII against what they saw as a foreign invader? Russia in WWII lived under a brutal dictator not unlike Sadam. Did that justify operation Barbarossa?:confused:

The government broadens their definition of a terrorist in order to cast a larger net. Very convenient when you pretend to operate under the rule of law and therefore must make a legal case for your dastardly deeds. I expect more and more Americans will be labeled as terrorists in the coming years.

[Shakespear]

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If Hitler had won with British help then the answer to this question

Did that justify operation Barbarossa?:confused:

would have been a resounding " Jawohl, Mein Führer!" :eek:

[wayiwalk]

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What you've written is true and even if he wrote a well thought out political analysis of corruption in our government he'd still be a murderer. I'm surprised that people on this website would hail this worm as a patriot.

When you see someone hail him as a patriot - let us know!:cool:

[dummass]

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They need to outlaw planes. Obviously, people can no longer be trusted with the responsibility of proper flight. :rolleyes:

[sunskyfan]

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Sorry, I don't think he was a coward. Reckless and Irrational. Clearly he lost it. Murderer perhaps. The news is still a little vague on that. Considering how much wrong information has come out I will wait to pass total judgment. Watch "Falling Down" then comment.

Nothing to see here ... Back to Tiger Woods ....

[Fiat Currency]

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The government broadens their definition of a terrorist in order to cast a larger net. Very convenient when you pretend to operate under the rule of law and therefore must make a legal case for your dastardly deeds. I expect more and more Americans will be labeled as terrorists in the coming years.

Just wait until they start linking terrorists and gold ownership together :eek:

[DToM67]

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I was surprised that metal had not commented on this story. This guy is a complete whiner, a coward and now a murderer. This was no manifesto, it was a sniveling, poor-me suicide note. Nothing more.

Whiner? snivelling? coward?

Folks prefer to brand this fellow (who appeared to have much to give) rather than ask why someone who undeniably believed in bettering his self/contributing to society should become so despondent & broken?

If what Joe wrote holds any truth, then Joe took greater responsibility for his lot than most folks do. He acted, educating himself. He attempted to effect change through political process, spending $ and time. Joe's final acts, while selfish, disturbed, horrific and destructive were hardly cowardly.

Call him a terrorist, murderer or whatever, it doesn't make his complaints wimpy, nor his acts cowardly. Cowards don't act... They tend to talk about what they would do/should've done (if they only had the balls).

Clearly its much easier to write the Joes of the World off as a whack nut-jobs... Requires no questions about the state of the nation, nor introspection.

[MulaMan]

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I agree the Tea Baggers are a terrorist organization.

We need to bring the military home from Iraq and have them bomb Texas to bits, round up all TeaBaggers, and send them to Gitmo to await trial for 10 yrs or so.

Makes me laugh how ignorant people in America are, compare this guy to the underwear bomber, who was more sucessful, who did more damage, who is more of a "terrorist", ...

why will this guy not be tried in a military court since he attacked the USA government?

[Rantly McTirade]

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I agree the Tea Baggers are a terrorist organization.

We need to bring the military home from Iraq and have them bomb Texas to bits, round up all TeaBaggers, and send them to Gitmo to await trial for 10 yrs or so.

Makes me laugh how ignorant people in America are, compare this guy to the underwear bomber, who was more sucessful, who did more damage, who is more of a "terrorist", ...

why will this guy not be tried in a military court since he attacked the USA government?

It's just as likely that a large number of 'the military', at least at ground level, would identify with the pilot, go AWOl and, in general terms, continue his mission. Hunting depraved and treasonous lefties, who rail against the military in terms of the idiocy of empire(rightly) but love to
(cowardly)invoke them to 'deal with' domestic manifestations-and the actual Tea Party types are about as truly threatening as the League of Women Voters- they disapprove of, might just end up on their manifesto. Gramsci/Negri followers should be careful what they wish for,especially since they're so focused on windbaggery they have no abilities at self defense or self sufficiency.

[unlucky]

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Folks prefer to brand this fellow (who appeared to have much to give) rather than ask why someone who undeniably believed in bettering his self/contributing to society should become so despondent & broken?

We should also ask what it is about society that made this man choose to deal with his problems in the way he did. Maybe he had no other outlets for his frustration. Or maybe there is some attraction in getting your place on the national news for a day, and having people say "He was nuts - but he had balls".

Do people who commit acts like this actually believe that they will change anything?

[mickeyc21]

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Not too sure what this is supposed to have in common with the Tea Party. You could as easily link this website to the event.
This is more about the rage a lot of people feel at the loss of their middle class American dream. Only one person in perhaps a hundred thousand will ever act on revenge fantasies against whoever they decide the enemy is. This leaves a lot of potential violence out there.
It is also worth noting that the IRS has a record number of investigations out there right now. While that has no relevance to this guy, aggressive tax collection coupled with people losing it all means the IRS is really putting itself in the firing line. People who have lost their homes, jobs and often their wives and THEN get hit with an audit aren't going to be in a rational frame of mind.

[Slimprofits]

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The bottom line is that this event is to Obama what Oklahoma City was to Bill Clinton, and Oklahoma City helped Clinton a lot in the dark days after the 1994 election.

What's this guy talking about?

The bombing was in April of '95. Six months later with the Democrats and Republicans in disagreement over the budget, the federal government was partially shut down. So much for Clinton's power.

Six months after that, the first major anti-terrorism bill was passed with little opposition in the Senate. In the House, the bill was overwhelming supported by the Republicans while the Dems almost split down the middle.

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/1996/roll126.xml