The Austin Texas Bombing Is A HUGE Image Blow To The "Tea Party" Right

[DToM67]

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Interesting that the FBI has ordered this to be taken down from several websites today.

Whoda thunkit?

We can't have people forming an option on this until MSM has told them what to think.

The Ministry of Truth requires adequate time:rolleyes:

[radon]

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I looked at his website on archive.org and google cache, last time it was updated was in 2004 for a 2008 version saved on archive.org and 2005 for a google cache version.

I just checked the history on the internet way back machine. I can't find any trace of the suicide note on the June 22 2008 version (last change) of the page.

http://web.archive.org/web/200806222...beddedart.com/

Maybe I'm missing something or perhaps they yanked the site before there was a chance to archive it.

[sishya]

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I would would be wary of Govt folks monitoring sites for inflammable comments in support of this Guy. Everyone needs to be careful about their posting.

What's Gerald Celente's quote? Oh, yeah..."When you have nothing else to lose, you lose it."

Good one. especially if a man does not have kids or responsibilities, he is very dangerous. I don't know if this Guy has any kids.

[Nero]

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I believe that this is just the beginning of this type of behavior, I think Gerald Celente said that "when people lose everything they lose it" and this will happen again and again in many different ways.
Get ready folks we are entering the NEW future and it isn't going to be pretty.

[Crazyfingers]

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I have heard and read hundreds and hundreds of rants just like this one over the last five years. With every rant or blog or conversation, after all the agreements and cursing, the inevitable question comes up.

What the heck are you going to do about it?

Some people just keep bitching, some call their congressmen, some stop shopping at walmarts or using big banks, some get involved in the political process, some move. Joe Stack crashed his plane into a building.

I disapprove of what this man did(if the story is confirmed), there has to be a better way to end this darkness without violence.

[wayiwalk]

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I read the whole thing and my view is different. He spent hours of his own time trying to go through proper channels to fix the laws that put him at a huge disadvantage against large companies and other monied interests. He realized that those with the power to change things lacked any accountability to the majority they governed. This is after years of, despite working hard, being serially impoverished by the IRS and watching the governments legal team enrich others at his expense.

But he is just a little guy. He doesn't have the money to buy a politician or pay lobbyists and attorneys to act in his interests. His epiphany was that he is doomed, for the rest of his life, to be screwed over by the IRS in favor of wall street, and big business.

In the end decided to strike a corrupt system in the only way he could. In this way his actions are patriotic.

It wouldn't surprise me to see more of this as the economic situation gets worse courtesy of ex middle class people who have nothing to lose. It will probably be used as an excuse for the expansion of increasingly fascist government policies. Is this why they are building those FEMA camps?

In my view he was patriotic right up until the moment he killed or injured someone. Got to feel sorry for the beaurocrats at the IRS, they're not one of the elite, that got injured or killed for being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

No doubt, in reading his rant, that he was a little disturbed. Everytime he gets to the point in the rant when he should carefully explain his case, he just glosses over it.

That said, he's not the first one out there to lose it, and I'd bet he won't be the last.

[don]

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Maybe you guys can help. Almost immediately after the event, the government declared this was not a terrorist attack. A guy with a political agenda flies an airplane into a government building. Not even a color alert change, that I know of.

I'm confused.

[runlikehe11]

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Maybe you guys can help. Almost immediately after the event, the government declared this was not a terrorist attack. A guy with a political agenda flies an airplane into a government building. Not even a color alert change, that I know of.

I'm confused.

I believe the FBI is ill prepared for this type of terrorist act, so just deny that it was a terrorist. An inside job how do you prepare for that?

http://www.fbi.gov/publications/terr...r2000_2001.htm

DEFINITIONS
There is no single, universally accepted definition of terrorism. Terrorism is defined in the Code of Federal Regulations as “...the unlawful use of force and violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives.” (28 C.F.R. Section 0.85)
The FBI further describes terrorism as either domestic or international, depending on the origin, base, and objectives of the terrorist organization. For the purpose of this report, the FBI uses the following definitions of terrorism:
l Domestic terrorism refers to activities that involve acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any state; appear to be intended to intimidate or coerce a civilian population; to influence the policy of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping; and occur primarily within the territorial jurisdiction of the United States. [18 U.S.C. § 2331(5)]

• International terrorism involves violent acts or acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or any state, or that would be a criminal violation if committed within the jurisdiction of the United States or any state. These acts appear to be intended to intimidate or coerce a civilian population; influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination or kidnapping and occur primarily outside the territorial jurisdiction of the United States or transcend national boundaries in terms of the means by which they are accomplished, the persons they appear intended to intimidate or coerce, or the locale in which their perpetrators operate or seek asylum. [18 U.S.C. § 2331(1)]

THE FBI DIVIDES TERRORIST-RELATED ACTIVITY INTO TWO CATEGORIES:

• A terrorist incident is a violent act or an act dangerous to human life, in violation of the criminal laws of the United States, or of any state, to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives.
• A terrorism prevention is a documented instance in which a violent act by a known or suspected terrorist group or individual with the means and a proven propensity for violence is successfully interdicted through investigative activity.

NOTE
The FBI investigates terrorism-related matters without regard to race, religion, national origin, or gender. Reference to individual members of any political, ethnic, or religious group in this report is not meant to imply that all members of that group are terrorists. Terrorists represent a small criminal minority in any larger social context.

[cjppjc]

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Maybe you guys can help. Almost immediately after the event, the government declared this was not a terrorist attack. A guy with a political agenda flies an airplane into a government building. Not even a color alert change, that I know of.

I'm confused.

Patience Don, The adminstration will call this domestice terrorism soon enough. A case can be made for that label.

[santafe2]

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problem solved

I was surprised that metal had not commented on this story. This guy is a complete whiner, a coward and now a murderer. This was no manifesto, it was a sniveling, poor-me suicide note. Nothing more.

[D-Mack]

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I just checked the history on the internet way back machine. I can't find any trace of the suicide note on the June 22 2008 version (last change) of the page.

http://web.archive.org/web/200806222...beddedart.com/

Maybe I'm missing something or perhaps they yanked the site before there was a chance to archive it.

The note has been uploaded like 1-2 hours before the incident, I believe.
That's what I've heard, the question I have is, how can you run a website for your company and not update it for years?

edit: it was 48 minutes before the incident.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive...102stack1.html

[Shakespear]

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Whether we agree or disagree with Joe Stack, one thing is certain, some deep gut wrenching discussion is going on in the US about the current state of United States. People are opening up far more to what they are thinking on the various forums discussing this then ever before and their anecdotal stories are priceless.

They are far more enlightening than watching BBC, CNN or Fox News.

PS: It appears that this thread is related to what happened here

http://www.itulip.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14488

[D-Mack]

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The California Franchise Tax Board said Stack's Software Systems Service Corporation license was suspended June 1, 2004, for not paying taxes in 1996 and 2002, CNN affiliate KCRA reported. And another of Stack's companies in California -- known as Prowess Engineering, which became Embedded Art -- had its license suspended November 1, 2000, for a failure to file a 1994 tax return, KCRA reported.


Thursday's incident left those who knew Stack scratching their heads.
"I can't believe it's the same person," said Ric Furley, an Austin musician who played in a band with Stack for a period more than two years ago.
Stack played bass, the accordion and sang for the band, according to the band's Web site.
Stack was very musical, and conversations with his bandmates typically revolved around music, not grievances he may have had.
"He was very easygoing," Furley said, adding that he guessed it was insanity that led Stack to his alleged suicide mission. "What else could it be?"


http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/02/18/tex...ile/index.html

even his ex-cult wife noticed it

Sheryl Stack, 50, listed in records at the University of Texas as a graduate student in music performance, brought her own strange back story to the marriage, having spent several years in the sway of a religious cult before her parents orchestrated a rescue.
In recent weeks Sheryl Stack complained to her parents of an increasingly frightening anger in her husband, straining the marriage, Cook said. On Wednesday night, Sheryl Stack took her daughter, Margaux, 12, to a hotel to get away from her husband. They returned Thursday morning to find their house ablaze.


http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...3_plane19.html

[BigBagel]

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I was surprised that metal had not commented on this story. This guy is a complete whiner, a coward and now a murderer. This was no manifesto, it was a sniveling, poor-me suicide note. Nothing more.

What you've written is true and even if he wrote a well thought out political analysis of corruption in our government he'd still be a murderer. I'm surprised that people on this website would hail this worm as a patriot.

[LargoWinch]

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Witnesses react to plane crash:

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