Oil puts the world on tilt .. scary stuff

[blazespinnaker]

http://paul.kedrosky.com/archives/20...l_puts_th.html

Basically, all that rapid sucking of oil out of the crust is making the earth wobble as it rotates.

[LargoWinch]

Re: Oil puts the world on tilt .. scary stuff

http://paul.kedrosky.com/archives/20...l_puts_th.html

Basically, all that rapid sucking of oil out of the crust is making the earth wobble as it rotates.

Really? What about mining operations?

[Shakespear]

Re: Oil puts the world on tilt .. scary stuff

The Butterfly Effect comes to mind ;)

[sadsack]

Re: Oil puts the world on tilt .. scary stuff

I have a feeling that the article belongs in "I lost my mind just now." (No offense blaze )

A truly breathtaking exposition of the adage "A little knowledge is a dangerous thing," emphasis on little . . .

[GRG55]

Re: Oil puts the world on tilt .. scary stuff

http://paul.kedrosky.com/archives/20...l_puts_th.html

Basically, all that rapid sucking of oil out of the crust is making the earth wobble as it rotates.

"...ruthless exploitation of natural resources of the earth..."

"ruthless..." :eek:

Okay folks, some help needed here.

How can we create a "compassionate exploitation of natural resources of the earth"?

Could "compassionate exploitation" be the Next Big Thing?

This looks like it could be better than "cap and trade". Even better than CDOs and CDS'. After all, why would anyone want to cap, or regulate, something that is compassionate? Wall Street and Big Oil should be all over this...:rolleyes:

Even Starving Steve would approve...

[raja]

Re: Oil puts the world on tilt .. scary stuff

I have a feeling that the article belongs in "I lost my mind just now." (No offense blaze )

A truly breathtaking exposition of the adage "A little knowledge is a dangerous thing," emphasis on little . . .

You may be right. But before I could dismiss it, I'd have to see some detailed data, such as the weight of oil extracted in N vs. S hemispheres, and how that would affect the calculations of wobble.

[GRG55]

Re: Oil puts the world on tilt .. scary stuff

You may be right. But before I could dismiss it, I'd have to see some detailed data, such as the weight of oil extracted in N vs. S hemispheres, and how that would affect the calculations of wobble.

No worries. Brazil is going to fix the imbalance, tout de suite...;)

...Mello told the peak oil crowd that hundreds of billions of barrels of oil reside under the ocean floor, awaiting new oil E&P technologies to unlock it. These new giant oil fields will begin operation in 2015 and produce as much oil as all of the major oil fields have to date.

Mello believes that the Greater Campos field alone will produce 130 billion barrels of oil. Using Hirsh’s calculations that translate into roughly 13 million barrels of oil per day, or 15% of current daily demand. Greater Campos is positioned as one of the Saudi Arabia replacements that are needed to maintain current plateau production levels as depletion proceeds at a 5% annual rate.

How do we tap all of this oil? By drilling down to depths that are deeper than smaller minds can conceive. Mello said he has spent ten years trying to convince the government not to listen to the engineers who say that drilling for oil six miles below the ocean floor is technically unfeasible. The small thinking and a defeatist mindset of the engineers who work for Brazil’s state owned Petroleo Brasileiro SA is all that is preventing the discovery of more oil and gas reserves deep than exist in shallow fields. How much more? Four times more.

Mellos’s simple message: drill deeper.

...

[sunskyfan]

Re: Oil puts the world on tilt .. scary stuff

We should consider everything when thinking about how the universe works. We have enough to worry about. I don't think we need to worry about this ;).

[Shakespear]

Re: Oil puts the world on tilt .. scary stuff

If Mello is so convinced that the rest are wrong all he needs to do is find investors to test his theory. The odds are against him but looking at his website I am sure he will put on a nice presentation to sell this. The first well will need to be a success as the price tag will be huge.

[KGW]

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GRG55, my understanding is that crude oil is a condensate, and thus would not be found deeper than its "condensing zone." Go deeper and methane is more likely. What does your info say on this?

[c1ue]

Re: Oil puts the world on tilt .. scary stuff

This is yet another stupid article in a long line of them by Kedrosky.

Even the oil that is extracted and burned, still remains within the gravitational framework of the earth.

If it were extracted, pushed into a ball, and set on one corner, that might do something to the rotation.

But converting a liquid into gases which evenly distribute through the earth doesn't do a damn thing. Moron.

[blazespinnaker]

Re: Oil puts the world on tilt .. scary stuff

Well, the idea makes perfect sense.

Just try it out sometime. Get a top and spin it. Watch how nicely it spins.

Take the top, cut out a small chunk and tape it to the other side of the top and then spin it and watch what happens.

Wobble.

[blazespinnaker]

Re: Oil puts the world on tilt .. scary stuff

This is yet another stupid article in a long line of them by Kedrosky.

Even the oil that is extracted and burned, still remains within the gravitational framework of the earth.

If it were extracted, pushed into a ball, and set on one corner, that might do something to the rotation.

But converting a liquid into gases which evenly distribute through the earth doesn't do a damn thing. Moron.

Who's the moron here?

I think you need to make sure you're right before so casually tossing the insults around here.

The atmosphere has a far less impact on earth's rotation than the crust does.

[GRG55]

Re: Oil puts the world on tilt .. scary stuff

GRG55, my understanding is that crude oil is a condensate, and thus would not be found deeper than its "condensing zone." Go deeper and methane is more likely. What does your info say on this?

I can't speak for abiotic oil, but for the ordinary stuff that we are all familiar with it has to do with the conditions under which the organic matter was "cooked" in the "kitchen" back in geologic time [millions of years ago].

Higher temperatures [at depth] "crack" the long chain [heavier] hydrocarbons and generally give rise to lighter oils or natural gas components.

At least that's what the geologists tell us engineers...

[Starving Steve]

Re: Oil puts the world on tilt .. scary stuff

http://paul.kedrosky.com/archives/20...l_puts_th.html

Basically, all that rapid sucking of oil out of the crust is making the earth wobble as it rotates.

The article is junk science, and it seems to be typical of the pot-head thinking (brain-dead lack of thinking) in to-day's universities.

First, fossil fuels put particulats into the atmosphere which act to make the atmosphere a bit less transparent. In plain English, the air gets hazy.

Haze acts to COOL the climate, not warm it. Dirt and filth block-out sunlight which acts to lower the Earth's temperature, especially during the summer. Also, such dirt and filth acts to attract condensation of water-vapour, and so clouds are formed. Cloud-cover acts to cool the climate by reflecting sunlight and cooling the Earth, especially during the summer.

Coal is the filthiest fuel, and coal cools the Earth, better than any other fuel.

Two, no mass is destroyed in the mining of fossil fuels. The atoms just get re-arranged to release chemical energy. The smoke from the burning of fossil fuels is exhausted not much above the surface of the Earth, so there is virtually no change in the distance from the centre of the Earth of the out-puts of combustion as compared to the position of the mining of the in-put fuels.

In plain English, the filth from urban pollution, mainly from coal-burning, just hangs in the air over the world's filthiest cities. The filth actually cools the cities by reducing their sunshine. There is no measureable affect upon the Earth's rotation.

Finally, climate data shows little change in the Earth's temperature in recent decades. There has been a slight cooling in the latest decade, 2001-2010. The warmest decades were 1931-1940, 1941-1950, also 1990-2000. Mean world sea-level is little changed, just six or seven inches higher than 100 years ago.

Pot-heads may now go back to their caves and dream-up some other nonsense.