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    today in pittsburg...






    look for it on tv tonight... not....

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    Originally posted by metalman View Post
    today in pittsburg...






    look for it on tv tonight... not....
    let me guess, they didn't have the correct permit?

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    • #3
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      Originally posted by metalman View Post
      today in pittsburg...
      look for it on tv tonight... not....
      I could have done without the drama music. To be honest and living in DC, those demonstrations were tame and the police reasonably controlled.

      I know quite a few people who go to those demonstrations -- people whose jobs seem to be protesting. They want to protest and give a finger to any form of authority -- not work for actual change. I've really very little respect for the vast majority of them.

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        Its in Pittsburgh... Oh you mean that the demonstration against the G20 today is similar to the demonstration in DC so that by analogy the demonstration in Pittsburgh are tame and the police reasonably controlled since those in DC are tame and the police reasonably controlled. Maybe.

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          PPD in riot gear trap U of Pittsburgh Students - not protesters - not marchers - PITT students on a Staircase and Tear Gas/Pepper Spray Them

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          • #6
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            Yes , where’s the real meeting?
            http://kdka.com/local/G20.summit.Fayette.2.1048533.html

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              You know, they actually had all the right permits weeks in advance, due to lawyers with the Center for Constitutional Rights. They had been working in advance to make things go smoothly. I got an update today that the same lawyers are now filing papers against the aggressive police action. . .

              Originally posted by sn1p3r View Post
              let me guess, they didn't have the correct permit?

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                Originally posted by metalman View Post
                today in pittsburg...
                This video reminds me of the Kent State Shootings, which aroused much dissent on college campuses in May of 1970.





                I no longer sense this same willingness to student rebellion on our college campuses that I did back then.

                I can't tell if that's because this generation of college students is less rebellious or whether it is because I am now an old fogey out of touch with our youth.
                Most folks are good; a few aren't.

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                • #9
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                  Originally posted by kartius919 View Post
                  Its in Pittsburgh... Oh you mean that the demonstration against the G20 today is similar to the demonstration in DC so that by analogy the demonstration in Pittsburgh are tame and the police reasonably controlled since those in DC are tame and the police reasonably controlled. Maybe.
                  We get lots of protests in DC -- obviously. Occasionally I'm bored and will walk around and see whether there are people who know what they are doing -- or are there to "protest".

                  My absolute favorite was the environmental "Earth Day" protest where apparently Penn and Teller got someone to get a slew of people to sign a petition asking to ban H2O. It's in just about everything you know!

                  Many of the same protesters protesting about bailouts would be there protesting the *lack* of government intervention if it had gone the other way. They are about the "protest" not the problem.

                  There are lots of way to make yourself and your opinion known and from what I've seen protest marches are about the *least* effective.

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                    So the military is arresting people in unmarked vehicles, interesting.

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                    • #11
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                      Originally posted by D-Mack View Post
                      So the military is arresting people in unmarked vehicles, interesting.
                      yes.
                      those were the most striking images!
                      who ordered that?

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                      • #12
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                        Originally posted by ThePythonicCow View Post
                        This video reminds me of the Kent State Shootings, which aroused much dissent on college campuses in May of 1970.





                        I no longer sense this same willingness to student rebellion on our college campuses that I did back then.

                        I can't tell if that's because this generation of college students is less rebellious or whether it is because I am now an old fogey out of touch with our youth.
                        It's because they've gone from wanting to change the world to wanting to become investment bankers when they grow up...:rolleyes:

                        But some things never seem to change...
                        ...Military Madness was killing the country
                        Solitary sadness creeps over me
                        And after the wars are over
                        And the body count is finally filed
                        I hope that The Man discovers
                        What's driving the people wild
                        Military madness is killing your country...

                        --Graham Nash; Military Madness, from "Songs for Beginners", 1971--


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                        • #13
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                          Hopefully the youth wearing a backpack, shoved into an unmarked car by guys in Army fatigues (National Guardsmen?) doesn't wind up going to the present day equivalent of Guantanamo Bay.

                          After all, Obama ended the unlawful detention of the prisoners held there, didn't he?

                          I especially like the treatment of the Uighurs:

                          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guantan...detention_camp

                          Of two dozen Uyghur detainees in Guantanamo, the Washington Post reported on August 25, 2005, fifteen were found not to be "enemy combatants."[112] These Uyghurs remained in detention, however, because the United States refused to return them to China, fearing that China would "imprison, persecute or torture them
                          This must be the non-Geneva convention equivalent to the double jeapordy law: you can only be imprisoned, persecuted, or tortured once.

                          Maybe the next Obama classification will be that all those arrested/captured by American soldiers are considered enemy combatants...after all, the soldiers are combatants thus anyone they're combating must also be combatants. And they're the enemy.

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                            Militarized PPD



                            http://www.flickr.com/photos/nycmonk...7622449783388/

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                              the LRAD in use

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