Is Al Jazeeraa anti USA?

[Starving Steve]

Re: Is Al Jazeeraa anti USA?

AlJazeera.com is not the same as aljazeera.net is not the same as aljazeera.info -- which are you referrring to? You didn't answer my question.

Trying my best to answer your question, I think that AlJazeera.com is the site that I have visited in the past.

First, I can not read Arabic, and when I visited aljazeera.net, the language was in Arabic. Second, when I tried to visit aljazeera.info, my computer could not find its server. Twice I tried, and twice my computer could not access a server. But when I visited www.aljazeera.com, the language was in English. Also, the messages were rather anti-Western and anti-Isreal and anti-liberty--- just like I remembered from prior visits. The mood was hostile, downright confrontational, arrogant. ( Apparently, nothing has changed.)

Also, there was a poll question at AlJazeera.com--- which is always fun wherever on the Internet poll questions are posted. ( I remember their poll questions from prior visits to AlJazeera.com. ) Their poll question was rather meaningless to me but perhaps meaningful to them, something like:

"Do you expect a war between Isreal and Hesbollah in the next few weeks?"

A better question would have been: "Is the tension in the Middle East between Hesbollah and Isreal over the past few weeks subsiding, or is it increasing?

Or another question: "Do you see peace possible between Hesbollah and Isreal? If not, why not?" And then some answers could have been given for the visitors to the website to click, whether the answers were in agreement with AlJazeera viewpoints or not. This is how we in the West would conduct a poll..... So the visitor might be able to click an answer like: "The Iranians don't want peace between Isreal and the Palestinians, and the Iranian govn't is using Hesbollah to cause trouble with Isreal." Or, the visitor might be able to choose another answer reflecting a different viewpoint like, "Isreal doesn't want a peace in the Middle East, so peace is impossible." Whatever, THE VISITOR WOULD BE ALLOWED TO COMMUNICATE THEIR OWN VIEWS, NOT NECESSARILY THOSE OF ALJAZEERA OR THE NATIONS FUNDING ALJAZEERA.

Anyway, I remember the narrow poll questions offered from time-to-time at AlJazeera. Nothing has changed. ( Click one meaningless answer or another. )

I do remember the flames. I love those flames: the flames of Al Jazeera. What a cool logo!

My guess is that I visited www.aljazeera.com.

[Rajiv]

Re: Is Al Jazeeraa anti USA?

Aljazeera.com is a virulant website based out of the UK and should not be confused with aljazeera.net - which is the TV station based in Doha, Qatar.

See Al Jazeera English

Al Jazeera English is a 24-hour English-language news and current affairs TV channel headquartered in Doha, Qatar. It is the sister channel of Al Jazeera.

The station broadcasts news features and analysis, documentaries, live debates, current affairs, business, and sports. The station claims to be the first global high-definition television network.

Al Jazeera English is the world’s first English-language news channel headquartered in the Middle East. The channel aims to provide both a regional voice and a global perspective to a potential world audience of over one billion English speakers, but without an Anglo-American worldview. Instead of being run under central command, news management rotates around broadcasting centres in Doha, Kuala Lumpur, London and Washington, DC, "following the sun."

The Al Jazeera Code of Ethics

Code of Ethics

Being a globally oriented media service, Al Jazeera has adopted the following code of ethics in pursuance of the vision and mission it has set for itself:

1. Adhere to the journalistic values of honesty, courage, fairness, balance, independence, credibility and diversity, giving no priority to commercial or political considerations over professional ones.

2. Endeavour to get to the truth and declare it in our dispatches, programmes and news bulletins unequivocally in a manner which leaves no doubt about its validity and accuracy.

3. Treat our audiences with due respect and address every issue or story with due attention to present a clear, factual and accurate picture while giving full consideration to the feelings of victims of crime, war, persecution and disaster, their relatives and our viewers, and to individual privacy and public decorum.

4. Welcome fair and honest media competition without allowing it to affect adversely our standards of performance so that getting a "scoop" will not become an end in itself.

5. Present diverse points of view and opinions without bias or partiality.

6. Recognise diversity in human societies with all their races, cultures and beliefs and their values and intrinsic individualities in order to present unbiased and faithful reflection of them.

7. Acknowledge a mistake when it occurs, promptly correct it and ensure it does not recur.

8. Observe transparency in dealing with news and news sources while adhering to internationally established practices concerning the rights of these sources.

9. Distinguish between news material, opinion and analysis to avoid the pitfalls of speculation and propaganda.

10. Stand by colleagues in the profession and offer them support when required, particularly in light of the acts of aggression and harassment to which journalists are subjected at times. Cooperate with Arab and international journalistic unions and associations to defend freedom of the press.

[metalman]

Re: Is Al Jazeeraa anti USA?

Aljazeera.com is a virulant website based out of the UK and should not be confused with aljazeera.net - which is the TV station based in Doha, Qatar.

See Al Jazeera English

The Al Jazeera Code of Ethics

does fox news have one of these? i didn't think so.

anyway, last i checked we were not fighting arabs but radical religious nuts. i want al jazeera on my tv now.

[Starving Steve]

Re: Is Al Jazeeraa anti USA?

does fox news have one of these? i didn't think so.

anyway, last i checked we were not fighting arabs but radical religious nuts. i want al jazeera on my tv now.

Just for the record here, I consider myself a zionist, i.e, one who is in favour of the Jewish people having a homeland. That homeland is Isreal.

My view is that zionists should also be willing to compromise with the Palestinians.

Perhaps in a compromise, the sovereignty of Jeruselem as the capital of Isreal could be shared. In other words, the sovereignty could be co-incident or overlapping--- much as the soverignty of the Temple Mount (aka, The Dome of the Rock) is shared now between Isreal and Palestine.

Where there is a will for peace, there is a way to peace. I am sure a way to peace will be found someday.

But the extremists on both sides of this dispute--- those who think they speak for God or Allah---must be controlled, even jailed.

[Jim Nickerson]

Re: Is Al Jazeeraa anti USA?

Just for the record here, I consider myself a zionist, i.e, one who is in favour of the Jewish people having a homeland. That homeland is Isreal.

My view is that zionists should also be willing to compromise with the Palestinians.

Perhaps in a compromise, the sovereignty of Jeruselem as the capital of Isreal could be shared. In other words, the sovereignty could be co-incident or overlapping--- much as the soverignty of the Temple Mount (aka, The Dome of the Rock) is shared now between Isreal and Palestine.

Where there is a will for peace, there is a way to peace. I am sure a way to peace will be found someday.

But the extremists on both sides of this dispute--- those who think they speak for God or Allah---must be controlled, even jailed.

Someday may be many thousands of years away, as the record so far going back several thousands of years demonstrates there is no room for co-existence of the various gods. There will always be those whose extreme ignorance or extreme fear of death and the unknown will make them extreme in how they see and practice religion.

I figure if there is ever to be peace between all inhabitants of the earth, it will come after the disappearance of all religions, so how likely is that any time soon--certainly not during the term of the next US president, or the next, or the next....ad infinitum.

[metalman]

Re: Is Al Jazeeraa anti USA?

Someday may be many thousands of years away, as the record so far going back several thousands of years demonstrates there is no room for co-existence of the various gods. There will always be those whose extreme ignorance or extreme fear of death and the unknown will make them extreme in how they see and practice religion.

I figure if there is ever to be peace between all inhabitants of the earth, it will come after the disappearance of all religions, so how likely is that any time soon--certainly not during the term of the next US president, or the next, or the next....ad infinitum.

there was study on religion in the usa that was covered by a lot of papers yesterday. what you are describing is happening in the usa. more and more folks say they have not religious affiliation. that's true in the most peaceful nations in europe... evidence to support your idea.

[Guest]

Re: Is Al Jazeeraa anti USA?

Metalman -

I think actually it's the other way around. Europeans are far more secular than Americans. It's the Americans that have a very high percentage of people who still actively practice some form of faith. The Europeans are 'older' society and tend consequently to be more sceptical and secular.

My own impression rather is that it's the stereotype of the American as 'bible thumping' which persists in the EU! Conversely, coming from Europe back to the States you can really notice the difference.

Take any suburban neighborhood in the US and if you live in a house there, you are likely to have one or two families right next door who either go to service, or are at least fairly active in their religious faith. I had such neighbors right across the street (on two sides) here in San Diego, and I think they looked at my comings and goings on holidays like Easter and imagined I must be "utterly godless"! As for me, well, I was feeling a little 'boxed in'.

An average European would feel like he'd stepped onto Mars in that kind of environment. The churches in Europe are seeing dwindling congregations and even in areas where people are much more observant, they are a lot more muted about it than Americans, who often wear their hearts on their sleeves on the religion thingy compared to people in the EU. At least that's my impression.

Got to disagree with you on this Metalguy. But I really appreciate the "motorcycle" you picked out for me, with the trycicle wheels and the baby fins and pink frou-frou trimmings? That's just my style.

[metalman]

Re: Is Al Jazeeraa anti USA?

Metalman -

I think actually it's the other way around. Europeans are far more secular than Americans. It's the Americans that have a very high percentage of people who still actively practice some form of faith. The Europeans are 'older' society and tend consequently to be more sceptical and secular.

My own impression rather is that it's the stereotype of the American as 'bible thumping' which persists in the EU! Conversely, coming from Europe back to the States you can really notice the difference.

Take any suburban neighborhood in the US and if you live in a house there, you are likely to have one or two families right next door who either go to service, or are at least fairly active in their religious faith. I had such neighbors right across the street (on two sides) here in San Diego, and I think they looked at my comings and goings on holidays like Easter and imagined I must be "utterly godless"! As for me, well, I was feeling a little 'boxed in'.

An average European would feel like he'd stepped onto Mars in that kind of environment. The churches in Europe are seeing dwindling congregations and even in areas where people are much more observant, they are a lot more muted about it than Americans, who often wear their hearts on their sleeves on the religion thingy compared to people in the EU. At least that's my impression.

Got to disagree with you on this Metalguy. But I really appreciate the "motorcycle" you picked out for me, with the trycicle wheels and the baby fins and pink frou-frou trimmings? That's just my style.

you missed my point. the euros are secular because they go to school where they get an education. in the usa you can graduate college without knowing fuckall about world history or even 16th century science. you know, this idea of "belief without evidence." americans believe in magic. how else can you convince millions to take on all this debt and assume everything will be ok?

[Guest]

Re: Is Al Jazeeraa anti USA?

Ya. We don't 'do evolution' at many American high-schools any more. This is the most degraded aspect of this country - as it points to our future.

We figured out how to get astronauts to the moon, but forty years later this now-addle-brained nation teaches creationism in it's high schools. If there is one thing in this country that inspires my active loathing it's shoving creationism into the heads of ninth graders in America. I think if I saw a bigoted high school teacher engaging in this kind of obscurantism while claiming to have 'teaching credentials' I'd be tempted to give them a punch in the kisser.

[metalman]

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Ya. We don't 'do evolution' at many American high-schools any more. This is the most degraded aspect of this country - as it points to our future.

We figured out how to get astronauts to the moon, but forty years later this now-addle-brained nation teaches creationism in it's high schools. If there is one thing in this country that inspires my active loathing it's shoving creationism into the heads of ninth graders in America. I think if I saw a bigoted high school teacher engaging in this kind of obscurantism while claiming to have 'teaching credentials' I'd be tempted to give them a punch in the kisser.

if i found a teacher trying out creationism on my kids i'd drag him onto the street and beat him to death with a rock. that's how they did it in the days when creationist ideas were current. good enough for them, good enough for him.

seriously, i'd bomb that area of that country all the way back to the stone age... versus partially... where it's at.

seriously, no, i'd try to reason with them, i would... then i'd stone and bomb them.

aw, fuck it. i'd lock them in a room and make them watch daytime tv until what's left of their brains drip out of their skulls.

[Guest]

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<< If i found a teacher trying out creationism on my kids i'd drag him onto the street and beat him to death with a rock. that's how they did it in the days when creationist ideas were current. good enough for them, good enough for him. >>

Metalguy, you are priceless. What would iTulip be without Metalman's Finishing School and Academy for Good Drawing Room Manners ?

How to 're-educate a creationist'. Drag the hapless CREATIONIST out to nearest open air sidewalk, grab a handy cobblestone, and pound repeatedly upon the subject's cranium until the subject exclaims 'I'M CONVINCED! CREATIONISM IS BUNK!". If you don't hear them utter anything, just keep pounding. LOL !!!

[Jim Nickerson]

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if i found a teacher trying out creationism on my kids i'd drag him onto the street and beat him to death with a rock. that's how they did it in the days when creationist ideas were current. good enough for them, good enough for him.

seriously, i'd bomb that area of that country all the way back to the stone age... versus partially... where it's at.

seriously, no, i'd try to reason with them, i would... then i'd stone and bomb them.

aw, fuck it. i'd lock them in a room and make them watch daytime tv until what's left of their brains drip out of their skulls.

Stay out of Kansas, I believe it is.

[metalman]

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Stay out of Kansas, I believe it is.

how can i resist kansas?

[Jim Nickerson]

Re: Is Al Jazeeraa anti USA?

how can i resist kansas?

I had the opportunity to travel through western Kansas 4-5 years ago while trailering, and it was during the wheat harvest season when all one could see were "amber waves of grain," which I had never fully comprehended until we drove through the state. Given the school board there now, I surely would hate to be growing up there (though I wouldn't realize what shit I was in) or wed to living there if I had kids.

It was truly beautiful.

[Starving Steve]

Re: Is Al Jazeeraa anti USA?

Someday may be many thousands of years away, as the record so far going back several thousands of years demonstrates there is no room for co-existence of the various gods. There will always be those whose extreme ignorance or extreme fear of death and the unknown will make them extreme in how they see and practice religion.

I figure if there is ever to be peace between all inhabitants of the earth, it will come after the disappearance of all religions, so how likely is that any time soon--certainly not during the term of the next US president, or the next, or the next....ad infinitum.

Religion, especially monotheistic religion, has been the downfall of mankind. But we are stuck with religion on Earth, so we will all have to learn to live with each other --- regardless of our religions.

And I am just as upset as you are about the insertion of creation NON-SCIENCE into the K-12 public school curriculum in the United States. Again, one can thank the religious-right in the Bush Administration for this sad state of affairs in the biology curriculum.

Somehow, the so-called liberals in the U.S. forgot to speak-up about a lot of things in the hidden agenda of the Bush Administration: i.e, unilateral diplomacy (aka, cowboy diplomacy by the U.S.), supplyside economics, the easy-money and pro-inflation Bush appointees to the Federal Reserve Board, education policy and the No Child Left Behind Act, English-only school policies and their bigotry, the insertion of creationism in the school curriculum, top-down control of the public schools from Washington, the outrageous nationalism taught to children through the public school curriculum, the do-nothing ( or cowboy capitalism ) heathcare policy, the Christian-right appointees to the Supreme Court, the abuse of civil liberties in the Patriot Act, free trade ( or the lack of free trade for workers and immigrants), the do-nothing ( more of the same windmills and Hummers ) energy policy by the Bush Administration, the military spending policies of the Bush Administration, etc.

With these issues, why have the Democrats been so silent for all of these years?

Liberals need to speak-out now, not just in Kansas against creationism alone, but everywhere in the U.S, and everywhere against all of these outrageous policies of the Bush Administration.