Mexico shuts schools, museums to stop flu outbreak

[blazespinnaker]

Re: Mexico shuts schools, museums to stop flu outbreak

I am starting to think that this virus has been going around for a month or so. Why the alert in Mexico? My conspiracy theory is this virus is being trumped up to pass through some emergency legislation, some special powers. Drug cartel emergency! Flu emergency! What is the agenda?

My first thought as well. However, the BBC is reporting some incredible stories from Mexican doctors:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/talking_point/8018428.stm

[blazespinnaker]

Re: Mexico shuts schools, museums to stop flu outbreak

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/talking_point/8018428.stm

[due_indigence]

Re: Mexico shuts schools, museums to stop flu outbreak

This observation will no doubt brand me a Nazi. Oh well...

I was sitting in a Western Corral restaurant yesterday watching my slovenly fellow Americans sidle up to the all-you-can-eat trough. Fat, slack-jawed, for the most part. If the American bovine herd is no longer required to make credit purchases (and furnish the crucial consumer-end of the Wall-Street-Ponzi-Potemkin Village equation), what exactly IS its function?

My thought is that America today comprises perhaps the most vulnerable population in the history of the world.

Food preparation skills (never mind growing it)? Lost to vast segments of the population.

General health? Abysmal. Childhood diabetes, et al...

For those who believe that, in her own odd way, Mother Nature abhors sloth and inefficiency, this population is crying out for a good culling. Maybe the New World Order has a point. (In an effort to blunt all accusations of elitism I'd like to point out that I was sitting in the Western Corral too. Moo!)

[ocelotl]

Re: Mexico shuts schools, museums to stop flu outbreak

http://www.thenews.com.mx/home/tnportada_h.asp
http://www.bignewsnetwork.com/index....d25eaf1a5e264/
http://www.notimex.com.mx/

:eek:

For Luke:

http://afntijuana.info/blog/
http://www.el-mexicano.com.mx/inicio.htm
http://www.oem.com.mx/elsoldetijuana/
http://www.enlineatijuana.com/
http://www.frontera.info/
http://www.tijuanapress.com/

[cobben]

Re: Mexico shuts schools, museums to stop flu outbreak

"Here is the solution to starvation and peak oil."

Want to see a real bear market in real estate?

After the black death in the middle ages, real estate (farmland) in Sweden had a 200 year bear market.

[cobben]

Quarantine plans, pork testing and travel warnings issued; new suspected swine flu cases found

Assorted details from around the world.


Swine flu fears prompt quarantine plans, pork bans

• Quarantine plans, pork testing and travel warnings issued; new suspected swine flu cases found
  
• Frank Jordans, Associated Press Writer
• On Sunday April 26, 2009, 10:40 am EDT

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Swine-...-15034237.html

"
GENEVA (AP) -- Countries planned quarantines, tightened rules on pork imports and tested airline passengers for fevers as global health officials tried Sunday to come up with uniform ways to battle a deadly strain of swine flu. Nations from New Zealand to France reported new suspected cases.

World Health Organization Director-General Margaret Chan held teleconferences with staff and flu experts around the world but stopped short of recommending specific measures to stop the disease, urging governments to step up their surveillance of suspicious outbreaks.
Governments including China, Russia and Taiwan began planning to put anyone with symptoms of the deadly virus under quarantine.
Others were increasing their screening of pigs and pork imports from the Americas or banning them outright despite health officials' reassurances that it was safe to eat thoroughly cooked pork.
Some nations issued travel warnings for Mexico.
Chan called the outbreak a public health emergency of "pandemic potential" because the virus can pass from human to human.
Her agency was considering whether to issue nonbinding recommendations on travel and trade restrictions, and even border closures. It is up to governments to decide whether to follow the advice.
"Countries are encouraged to do anything that they feel would be a precautionary measure," WHO spokeswoman Aphaluck Bhatiasevi said. "All countries need to enhance their monitoring."
. . . "

[Guest]

Re: Mexico shuts schools, museums to stop flu outbreak

Blazespinnaker - Here is one excerpt from the linked BBC article - as reported by one doctor, two of whose colleagues died due to exposure to multiple cases, even after being vaccinated. Nasty little bug.

My first thought as well. However, the BBC is reporting some incredible stories from Mexican doctors:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/talking_point/8018428.stm

I work as a resident doctor in one of the biggest hospitals in Mexico City and sadly, the situation is far from "under control". As a doctor, I realise that the media does not report the truth. Authorities distributed vaccines among all the medical personnel with no results, because two of my partners who worked in this hospital (interns) were killed by this new virus in less than six days even though they were vaccinated as all of us were. The official number of deaths is 20, nevertheless, the true number of victims are more than 200. I understand that we must avoid to panic, but telling the truth it might be better now to prevent and avoid more deaths.

Yeny Gregorio Dávila, Mexico City

[jtabeb]

Re: Mexico shuts schools, museums to stop flu outbreak

I'm heartened to see that the management of Itulip are SOOOooo Concerned for the welfare of the public and their readership that they have taken the time to address this issue specifically in this (SUBSCRIPTION ONLY) forum.:rolleyes:

http://www.itulip.com/forums/showthr...94361#poststop

WTF Guys? gotta co-opt (and borrow) the public threads now to make a buck?

I expect more from you guys (guess that's just me). Oh and by the way, I'd still be a paying customer if you had not jacked the price up 250% with no justification other than "we say so". You know I have over a thousand posts on this site (now granted they all aren't a bucket of gold but still). It's the contributions of the editors AND members that make this site so relevant. So Yeah, I 'm feeling a bit jaded. Anyone else?

[metalman]

Re: Mexico shuts schools, museums to stop flu outbreak

I'm heartened to see that the management of Itulip are SOOOooo Concerned for the welfare of the public and their readership that they have taken the time to address this issue specifically in this (SUBSCRIPTION ONLY) forum.:rolleyes:

http://www.itulip.com/forums/showthr...94361#poststop

WTF Guys? gotta co-opt (and borrow) the public threads now to make a buck?

I expect more from you guys (guess that's just me). Oh and by the way, I'd still be a paying customer if you had not jacked the price up 250% with no justification other than "we say so". You know I have over a thousand posts on this site (now granted they all aren't a bucket of gold but still). It's the contributions of the editors AND members that make this site so relevant. So Yeah, I 'm feeling a bit jaded. Anyone else?

dude... there's a free thread and a pay for thread on it. you are free to chose. that's the title of a famous book the non-socialists among us are familiar with.

btw, the subscription area thread pig flu is ej talking to a reporter he knows who's covering the story at the washington post, nurse in boston, a biotech vc, others. hey, if you can get the same info elsewhere for free... go for it.

[GRG55]

Re: Mexico shuts schools, museums to stop flu outbreak

I'm heartened to see that the management of Itulip are SOOOooo Concerned for the welfare of the public and their readership that they have taken the time to address this issue specifically in this (SUBSCRIPTION ONLY) forum.:rolleyes:

http://www.itulip.com/forums/showthr...94361#poststop

WTF Guys? gotta co-opt (and borrow) the public threads now to make a buck?

I expect more from you guys (guess that's just me). Oh and by the way, I'd still be a paying customer if you had not jacked the price up 250% with no justification other than "we say so". You know I have over a thousand posts on this site (now granted they all aren't a bucket of gold but still). It's the contributions of the editors AND members that make this site so relevant. So Yeah, I 'm feeling a bit jaded. Anyone else?

The cost of a subscription is about the price of an ounce of gold - at the bottom about a decade ago - which doesn't seem excessive for an annual due. However, the decision is up to each individual. You obviously feel the value is not worth the cost. Fair enough. Don't bitch man...it's your decision.

[Guest]

Re: Mexico shuts schools, museums to stop flu outbreak

Jtabeb's got a job waiting for him in the Arabian Gulf as a specialist flight instructor just two or three years from now. They are gonna pay him something like 250 grand a year, tax free as I understand it, plus free digs, services and probably an Emperor's red carpet to walk on. Jtabeb is one of the luckiest buggers in this community. There is no justice in this mean old world that he gets all that loot and I don't. Meanwhile he's being budget conscious. Howard Hughes syndrome, if you asked me (which you didn't, but whatever.).

The cost of a subscription is about the price of an ounce of gold - at the bottom about a decade ago - which doesn't seem excessive for an annual due. However, the decision is up to each individual. You obviously feel the value is not worth the cost. Fair enough. Don't bitch man...it's your decision.

[jtabeb]

Re: Mexico shuts schools, museums to stop flu outbreak

The cost of a subscription is about the price of an ounce of gold - at the bottom about a decade ago - which doesn't seem excessive for an annual due. However, the decision is up to each individual. You obviously feel the value is not worth the cost. Fair enough. Don't bitch man...it's your decision.

Not bitching about the cost per se, just the lack of capital feedback to participants. Don't know, maybe I'm wrong, just seems not kosher charging for public health info. A couple of items like that ( and the fact that Everything I put in the select forum is no longer visable to me). Dk, Site is genius. Put out some quality content with value added anecdotal evidence/opinion.

I guess my big issue is that I think the contributing members ALSO frame the discussion and provide content, not just the editors. For the editors to claim exclusive rights to that product (even if they didn't produce it exclusively) seems not Kosher. I thought $100 bucks was a reasonable price given the interplay of ideas, $250 seems, well greedy, considering that the sum of the parts (with awesome exclusives, Props where props are deserved) is not the product of an individual or group of individuals, but in reality the entire community of contributors.

OK, made my point, so long soap box.

[jtabeb]

Re: Mexico shuts schools, museums to stop flu outbreak

Jtabeb's got a job waiting for him in the Arabian Gulf as a specialist flight instructor just two or three years from now. They are gonna pay him something like 250 grand a year, tax free as I understand it, plus free digs, services and probably an Emperor's red carpet to walk on. Jtabeb is one of the luckiest buggers in this community. There is no justice in this mean old world that he gets all that loot and I don't. Meanwhile he's being budget conscious. Howard Hughes syndrome, if you asked me (which you didn't, but whatever.).

If you can believe it, I was actually thinking of ditching that job for a PHD program in Molecular Biology.
(no pay, long hours, No IP, but get to live with my wife and kids as opposed to getting to see them every six months) Crazy Eh?

[Jay]

Re: Mexico shuts schools, museums to stop flu outbreak

I would take this one seriously until we are sure it passes. The fact that young healthy people are dying is concerning and the same pattern that occurred in 1918. Vaccines shouldn't be expected to work against a new flu subtype like this one. Tamiflu and Relenza should work if it comes to it. And, yes, Rumsfeld was the chairman at Gilead who owns the Tamiflu patents so the tin foil should be flying.

[BadJuju]

Re: Mexico shuts schools, museums to stop flu outbreak

I would take this one seriously until we are sure it passes. The fact that young healthy people are dying is concerning and the same pattern that occurred in 1918. Vaccines shouldn't be expected to work against a new flu subtype like this one. .

At least this one is being taken more seriously by the government than the Spanish Flu.