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    April 23 (Bloomberg) -- Thousands of government workers marched on downtown Santiago last November, burning an effigy of Chilean Finance Minister Andres Velasco and calling him “disgusting” as a strike for higher wages paralyzed public services.

    Five months later, polls show that Velasco is President Michelle Bachelet’s most popular minister. During a three-year copper boom he and central bank President Jose De Gregorio set aside $48.6 billion, more than 30 percent of the country’s gross domestic product, that he is now using for tax cuts, subsidies and cash handouts to poor families.

    The Chilean peso has risen almost 10 percent against the dollar this year to become the best-performing currency among emerging markets. The country’s economy is expected to grow 0.1 percent in 2009, as the region contracts 1.5 percent, according to the International Monetary Fund. While Chile stashed away copper profits, neighboring Argentina boosted spending when revenue from soybean exports rose, leaving it short on cash to stimulate the economy this year.

    Velasco, 48, applied the lessons learned from decades of economic failure in Latin America -- ones he said could also help the U.S. The current crisis followed “a massive regulatory failure in many advanced financial markets over the last decade or so,” Velasco said in an interview April 21 in his office overlooking the presidential palace in downtown Santiago.


    http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...qLA&refer=home

    Hmmmm, save during the boom times to be able to provide during the lean times. Radical concept.
    Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. -Groucho

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    Next US Treasury Secretary??!!
    "...the western financial system has already failed. The failure has just not yet been realized, while the system remains confident that it is still alive." Jesse

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      Originally posted by Master Shake View Post

      Hmmmm, save during the boom times to be able to provide during the lean times. Radical concept.
      It's one of the things that truly saddens me when I look at LatAm.

      They never seem to get it (aside from Chile, and to a much much lesser extent Brazil this time around). When there is a commodities boom, coupled with record remittances (which also has negative effects on labor), is use that extra dough to affect reform that (i) reduces future dependence on commodities (in addition to investing in the productivity of such commodities), and (ii) carries you through the down cycles.

      Guess it's easier to borrow more, spend, and steal. This criticism is addressed to both the public and private sectors.

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        Who could have known that Brazil and Chile would do alright during this recession?

        http://www.itulip.com/forums/showthr...hile#post73800

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          Chile is the Germany of South Am. Good for them!

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            98 % literacy rate, great climate, stable government, good quality of life.

            If things go that badly it might be the place to go -

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              Originally posted by tastymannatees View Post
              98 % literacy rate, great climate, stable government, good quality of life.

              If things go that badly it might be the place to go -
              True for the coast, stay out of the mountains.
              "...the western financial system has already failed. The failure has just not yet been realized, while the system remains confident that it is still alive." Jesse

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                Originally posted by rjwjr View Post
                True for the coast, stay out of the mountains.
                My wife is from Bariloche (Argentina) and we frequently visit family there. The areas across the border in Chile -- Purto Montt, Valdivia, Osorno, Frutillar -- are great.
                Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. -Groucho

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                  Originally posted by Master Shake View Post
                  Hmmmm, save during the boom times to be able to provide during the lean times. Radical concept.
                  We could send a couple of our Chicago School economists down there to fix that surplus problem.

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                    Re: Some smart guys in Chile

                    Originally posted by santafe2 View Post
                    We could send a couple of our Chicago School economists down there to fix that surplus problem.
                    Wouldn't be the first time...

                    During the hyperinflation period, after the Allende coup in 1973, Milton himself gave a lecture and provided the Pinochet government with a written outline on how to deal with the hyperinflation.

                    "The Commanding Heights: The Battle for the World Economy" [a book co-authored by Cambridge Energy Research Associates co-founders Danien Yergin and Joseph Stanislaw] states that many of the most influencial economic planners advising the Pinochet government were Chilean graduates of the Chicago School.

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                      The best cheapo red table wine available here in Latvia is from Chile.

                      Quite good actually, it is cheaper than the cheapo-wino from Italy and Spain, which are ok for marinating meat but hardly drinkable.
                      Justice is the cornerstone of the world

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                        Originally posted by santafe2 View Post
                        We could send a couple of our Chicago School economists down there to fix that surplus problem.
                        It is Chicago school economists that are responsible for Chile's surplus in the first place!

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                          Originally posted by Scot View Post
                          It is Chicago school economists that are responsible for Chile's surplus in the first place!
                          You have support for that comment? The Chicago School economists destroyed Chile in the 1970s. Between the early 70s and late 80s they used Chile as a completely failed lab experiment - in fact the first of many failures. Did they ask forgiveness and a do-over so they could come back in the 2000s and fix the mess they created?

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                            edit: thought I was being original - read the other posts after I posted & realized others thought the same.

                            regulatory failure ??? ???

                            heavily tax & set aside money in good times???

                            Didn't believe in the intrinsic goodness and accuracy and general uber-alles power of markets?

                            I thought all those Chileans were Chicago guys?

                            THAT'S CRAZY !!!!!!!!! and if he actually was a Chicago guy, he's INSANE !!!!


                            Originally posted by Master Shake View Post
                            Jose De Gregorio set aside $48.6 billion, more than 30 percent of the country’s gross domestic product, that he is now using for tax cuts, subsidies and cash handouts to poor families.


                            Velasco, 48, applied the lessons learned from decades of economic failure in Latin America -- ones he said could also help the U.S. The current crisis followed “a massive regulatory failure in many advanced financial markets over the last decade or so,” Velasco said in an interview April 21 in his office overlooking the presidential palace in downtown Santiago.
                            (my next post is going to use individual letters cut from multiple sources ...)

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                              Originally posted by rjwjr View Post
                              True for the coast, stay out of the mountains.
                              You must be kidding, they just broke the world distance record for gliding there with a 3000km flight and this is a report about a more recent expedition.



                              http://www.raf.mod.uk/rafgliding/exp...ns/chile04.cfm

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