Peak everything...

[metalman]

...or why we need a war that kills off a few billion people...

...or why lukester is right about oil and silver...

[don]

Re: Peak everything...

Use extrapolations at the turn of the century predicted American cities would be overwhelmed by...horseshit. Cars solved that one. I'm not siding with 'miracle' technologies solving the above graphic. Just an over-reliance on 'facts'. What I do think is that political economic systems, and not natural resources, will be the key. Which makes me more pessimistic than the graph.

[jtabeb]

Re: Peak everything...

...or why we need a war that kills off a few billion people...

...or why lukester is right about oil and silver...

And people don't see the importance of space exploration, Sheesh! Dumbasses, It's called Resource supply!!!!

It's is VERY simple, either we are able to utilize resources beyond that is provided on the earth (space, lot a materials in space, ya know), or you have it exactly right we kill off enough of the population (on purpose or just by accident) to make the existing supply of resources last longer.


I would PREFER SPACE EXPLORATION myself.

[Diarmuid]

Re: Peak everything...

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...or why we need a war that kills off a few billion people...



Just as long as the billions dying are mostly brown or yellow or disadvantaged young men economically, socially and educationally in our own societies huh? would be crazy to be lumping oursleves, our family members or our friends into those to "die" category, anyway decreasing our own consumption habits is so much more difficult then murder

[Guest]

Re: Peak everything...

How the f234k did you manage to post such a big image file? That's the important question. What?? Do some posters here get expanded file storage privileges? :mad: :confused: :rolleyes:

BTW this was posted and thoroughly discussed by the resident walking talking encyclopedia Rajiv, about a year ago. It's not even news more any. ... ... FRED!!!! We've got a SPAM post here that needs to be moved to Rant & Rave cause it was already discussed at length here many months ago and we don't need to reinvent the wheel !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;)

[BadJuju]

Re: Peak everything...

Metals can be recycled, at least. BadJuju is always here with a positive spin on things.

[petertribo]

Re: Peak everything...

What I do think is that political economic systems, and not natural resources, will be the key. Which makes me more pessimistic than the graph.

I think the number one problem is Governance and connected to that Rule Of Law. I hear of lots of economic, scientific experiments but I know of none anywhere in the World where Governance is being experimented with. Unless we figure that out and very fast it's game over. We seem actually to be retrogressing in this area. For example, some talk now of Totalitarian solutions to energy problems.

[metalman]

Re: Peak everything...

How the f234k did you manage to post such a big image file? That's the important question. What?? Do some posters here get expanded file storage privileges? :mad: :confused: :rolleyes:

use your noggin, luke. hotlinked to the site where i found it.

BTW this was posted and thoroughly discussed by the resident walking talking encyclopedia Rajiv, about a year ago. It's not even news more any. ... ... FRED!!!! We've got a SPAM post here that needs to be moved to Rant & Rave cause it was already discussed at length here many months ago and we don't need to reinvent the wheel !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;)

fer instance...

[metalman]

Re: Peak everything...

Metals can be recycled, at least. BadJuju is always here with a positive spin on things.

scroll to the right of the image, see how much of each metal is recycled.

[BadJuju]

Re: Peak everything...

scroll to the right of the image, see how much of each metal is recycled.

metalmen here to put a negative spin on things.

But recycling will increase as time goes on.

[metalman]

Re: Peak everything...

metalmen here to put a negative spin on things.

But recycling will increase as time goes on.

Environment: Did You Know?


Environmental / Recycling Facts

• Nearly 90 percent of automotive aluminum is recovered and recycled
• There is no limit to the number of times aluminum can be recycled
• The energy required to recycle aluminum is only 5 percent of that used to produce aluminum from its original source, bauxite ores
• Recycling reduces energy consumption, and saves 95 percent of the greenhouse gases associated with primary production

neat, huh? except... how much better than 90% are we gonna get?

[Guest]

Re: Peak everything...

Don't forget Metal-fatigue though.

Environment: Did You Know?


Environmental / Recycling Facts

• Nearly 90 percent of automotive aluminum is recovered and recycled
• There is no limit to the number of times aluminum can be recycled
• The energy required to recycle aluminum is only 5 percent of that used to produce aluminum from its original source, bauxite ores
• Recycling reduces energy consumption, and saves 95 percent of the greenhouse gases associated with primary production

neat, huh? except... how much better than 90% are we gonna get?

[jandkmeyer]

Re: Peak everything...

And I always thought "metalman" was in reference to "heavy metal" as represented by your dashing image from cover of LZ II.

[Adeptus]

Re: Peak everything...

I would PREFER SPACE EXPLORATION myself.

Morpheus... "humans are not mammals... they move to an area & multiply and multiply, until all natural resources are consumed... they are like virus" Youtube clip from the Matrix

The machines had the right idea... let the humans imagine they are consuming, but in fact it was all virtual consumption from within a glorified coffin!
I love that movie :-)

Maybe we should all just get a Second Life.

[SirFartsAlot]

Re: Peak everything...

recrystallization by way of annealing...problem solved