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    Robert Reich: It's a Depression

    The March employment numbers, out this morning, are bleak: 8.5 percent of Americans officially unemployed, 663,000 more jobs lost. But if you include people who are out of work and have given up trying to find a job, the real unemployment rate is 9 percent. And if you include people working part time who'd rather be working full time, it's now up to 15.6 percent. One in every six workers in America is now either unemployed or underemployed.

    Every lost job has a multiplier effect throughout the economy. For every person who no longer has a job and can't find another, or is trying to enter the job market and can't find one, there are at least three job holders who become more anxious that they may lose their job. Almost every American right now is within two degrees of separation of someone who is out of work. This broader anxiety expresses itself as less willingness to spend money on anything other than necessities. And this reluctance to spend further contracts the economy, leading to more job losses.

    Capital markets may or may not unfreeze under the combined heat of the Treasury and the Fed, but what happens to Wall Street is becoming less and less relevant to Main Street. Anxious Americans will not borrow even if credit is available to them. And ever fewer Americans are good credit risks anyway.

    All this means that the real economy will need a larger stimulus than the $787 billion already enacted. To be sure, only a small fraction of the $787 billion has been turned into new jobs so far. The money is still moving out the door. But today's bleak jobs report shows that the economy is so far below its productive capacity that much more money will be needed.
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    Re: Robert Reich: It's a Depression

    I disagree with Mr. Reich that:

    And the only way out is government spending on a very large scale.
    What about reducing the size of the government? Reducing expenditures? Allowing asset prices to decline to reach equilibrium?

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      Re: Robert Reich: It's a Depression

      The problem is that with your suggestions is that they are deflationary. As the economic structure currently stands, deflation leads reduced production and consumption, and from there to mass unemployment.

      Unemployment means an inability to make ends meet. The only way unemployed people are going to be able to meet a few basic needs is through Government assistance -- that implies government spending. I believe that this is where Reich is coming from (he was after all the Labor Secretary!)

      This is the direction the US Government will have to go after the Banking system cannot reflate the economy and fails -- government printing money and spending -- maybe some of the alternate money schemes will come into play at this time

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      • #4
        Re: Robert Reich: It's a Depression

        Originally posted by Rajiv View Post
        The problem is that with your suggestions is that they are deflationary. As the economic structure currently stands, deflation leads reduced production and consumption, and from there to mass unemployment.
        I agree, they are deflationary, but fair and morally just.

        Can mass unemployment be prevented by government spending? Perhaps, but for how long? More importantly, what will be the purchasing power of the employed? What about the standard of living of the non-participants in debacle?

        The price of excesses must be paid one way or another, I simply believe that bigger government and high-inflation is the wrong way to address the issue.

        Again, I am simply sticking to my Austrian view here, as I do not know any better.

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          Re: Robert Reich: It's a Depression

          correct me if i am wrong, but this spending has to be paid back one way or another with interest. It will be either through higher taxes, or money printing (inflation tax). what stimulus (borrowing) really does is pull demand from the future into the present. when the bill comes due in the future, then it will consume future production. I suppose you could argue that 10 years of mild pain might be better than 1 year of severe pain.
          Can you argue that if we save a company like GM now, it will be less costly than letting it fail, then trying to start another GM years from now after the intellectual and physical capital are gone.
          Can you guarantee it will NOT be one year of worse pain 10 years from now. Is it fair that this generation can tax the productivity of a future generation?

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