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  • Look what just hit the fan in England...

    A foreshadowing of the fate of US Treasuries?

    Time to duck and clear out of the splatter zone...
    MARCH 25, 2009, 7:27 A.M. ET
    Gilts Tumble After GBP1.75B 4.25% 2049 Auction Is Uncovered

    By Keith Jenkins
    Of DOW JONES NEWSWIRES

    LONDON (Dow Jones)--The U.K. government's latest gilt auction drew disappointingly poor demand Wednesday, data from the U.K. Debt Management Office showed.

    The GBP1.75 billion tap of the 4.25% December 2049 Treasury gilt was uncovered, with a bid-to-cover ratio of just 0.93 times, sharply down from 2.03 at the previous auction of this bond, held Feb. 4.

    It was the first uncovered convention gilt auction since 1995.

    The yield "tail", or difference between the average and highest yields, a gauge of demand, was an exceptionally long 12.8 basis points, versus 0.2bp at the previous tender.

    The average price was 95.24, for a yield of 4.506%.

    "Having flirted with a failed conventional auction twice over recent weeks, the market has finally witnessed one, with the auction covered 0.93 times, and a further GBP65 million of bids rejected on the basis that they were just too low to be filled," said John Wraith, head of sterling rates at Royal Bank of Canada Capital Markets.

    Immediate market reaction to the results was extremely negative, with the June gilt futures contract heading sharply lower.

    At 1100 GMT, June gilts were down 1.00 on the day at 120.37, after a low of 119.45 made soon after the results were announced.

    Gilt futures have now erased all their price gains made since the Bank of England announced its quantitative easing program on March 5.

    Governor Mervyn King cast doubts about the possible size of the QE program in his testimony to the Treasury Select Committee Tuesday, which triggered a sharp selloff in gilts as traders looked to reduce unwanted long positions.

    Analysts said that while the Bank of England's quantitative easing policy, specifically its reverse auctions where the Bank buys eligible gilts from the market, ought to provide gilts with support, these results highlight the potential discrepancies between demand for eligible and ineligible bonds.

    "The Governor's perceived equivocation around QE yesterday has clearly created a market where eligible BOE buyback debt is slipping further back towards where it came from pre-QE, while ineligible debt is left horribly exposed to worries about the very heavy supply outlook and deep uncertainty over what support, if any, will be forthcoming from the Central Bank," RBC's Wraith said.

    The BOE's QE remit covers gilts within the five- to 25-year maturity range.

    Attention now turns to the BOE's fifth reverse auction Wednesday, when the Bank buys GBP3.5 billion of eligible gilts in the 2014-2019 maturity range. Results of the competitive leg of the operation will be published soon after the auction closes at 1445 GMT.

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    Re: Look what just hit the fan in England...

    Originally posted by GRG55 View Post
    A foreshadowing of the fate of US Treasuries?

    Time to duck and clear out of the splatter zone...
    MARCH 25, 2009, 7:27 A.M. ET
    Gilts Tumble After GBP1.75B 4.25% 2049 Auction Is Uncovered

    The GBP1.75 billion tap of the 4.25% December 2049 Treasury gilt was uncovered, with a bid-to-cover ratio of just 0.93 times, sharply down from 2.03 at the previous auction of this bond, held Feb. 4.

    It was the first uncovered convention gilt auction since 1995.
    gee, and only a few days ago...

    UK to remain in deflation trap until 2012, economists warn

    bwah ha ha ha! not when the pound goes up in smoke...



    was the 'pound sterling' now the 'pound stinking'?

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      Re: Look what just hit the fan in England...

      Commentary from The Telegraph:
      Failed gilt auction stokes fears over UK economy

      The Government has suffered a major blow to its economic stimulus ambitions after an auction of Treasury gilts failed for the first time in more than a decade, underlining the market’s fears about the state of the nation’s finances.

      Last Updated: 1:25PM GMT 25 Mar 2009

      The UK Debt Management Office (DMO) attracted just £1.67bn in bids for its sale of £1.75bn of 2049 gilts this morning, its first uncovered auction of conventional gilts since 1995.

      The cover of just 0.93 times is believed to be the lowest in history and far worse than the 0.99 times in 1995. The average cover of the last three auctions was 2.1 times.

      Failure raises fears that the Government may not be able to secure the billions of pounds its needs from the markets to fund its record fiscal deficit without paying far more for the money, and reflects concerns about UK economic stability.

      It comes at a highly embarrassing time for Gordon Brown, who is hosting a summit of G20 leaders next week to spearhead recovery plans for the global economy.

      His call for further economic stimulus packages was also called into question yesterday by Mervyn King, Governor of the Bank of England, who warned that the UK finances were so stretched the Government would be unable to launch new spending plans.

      Moreover, politicians have raised concerns that an uncovered gilt auction could lead to a cut in the sovereign credit rating, which could have devastating consequences for the national debt – due to hit a record £1 trillion - as the interest bill would soar...

      ...David Buik of BGC Partners added: “Suggestions that there were balance sheet constraints, [the] bond wasn’t cheap enough, [the] shock rise in inflation and Mervyn King’s comments yesterday didn’t help.”

      Investors are thought to be concerned that, should the Bank not do as much quantitative easing as planned, they could be left holding more gilts than hoped as they would not be able to offload them on the central bank. The markets are already under pressure to increase their exposure to gilts as the Government is issuing far more than usual...

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        Re: Look what just hit the fan in England...

        Originally posted by GRG55 View Post
        Commentary from The Telegraph:


        ...David Buik of BGC Partners added: “Suggestions that there were balance sheet constraints, [the] bond wasn’t cheap enough, [the] shock rise in inflation and Mervyn King’s comments yesterday didn’t help.”
        I don't know where they get the unexpected part


        Inflation surprises with jump to 3.2%

        By Daniel Pimlott, Economics Reporter

        Published: March 24 2009 10:13 | Last updated: March 24 2009 22:01


        Fears Britain might enter a deflationary spiral receded on Tuesday after inflation rose in defiance of expectations last month.

        As the sharp fall in the value of the pound fed through in the form of higher prices for shoppers, the consumer price index increased from 3 per cent in January to 3.2 per cent in the year to February, confounding economists’ forecasts of a further fall to 2.6 per cent. Inflation has fallen from a peak of 5.2 per cent in September.

        The rise in inflation forced Mervyn King, the governor of the Bank of England, to write to Alistair Darling, the chancellor, to explain why prices were still rising more than one percentage point above the Bank’s 2 per cent target.

        ...
        http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/1b146446-1...0779fd2ac.html

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          Re: Look what just hit the fan in England...

          Did you guys see this video yet? on drudge.

          OUCH.

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94lW6Y4tBXs

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            Re: Look what just hit the fan in England...

            Now,..............I don't want anyone thinking i am laughting my ass off at this news.................But.
            ;)
            Mike

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              Re: Look what just hit the fan in England...

              Originally posted by WildspitzE View Post

              OUCH.
              OUCH is right !! What perfect command of the English language. :eek:

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                Re: Look what just hit the fan in England...

                Interesting that the market panics when a politician (Mervyn King)points out the obbvious! You'd think it would improve because reality is slowly dawning on the pollies. This would seem to indicate that the market is not 'all wise' but in fact is more stupid than politicians! I've always been a bit suspicious of the MSM claims that the market has some sort of magical fore-knowledge of the future.

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                • #9
                  Re: Look what just hit the fan in England...

                  Originally posted by WildspitzE View Post
                  Truth hurts

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                    Re: Look what just hit the fan in England...

                    Originally posted by The Outback Oracle View Post
                    Interesting that the market panics when a politician (Mervyn King)points out the obbvious! You'd think it would improve because reality is slowly dawning on the pollies. This would seem to indicate that the market is not 'all wise' but in fact is more stupid than politicians! I've always been a bit suspicious of the MSM claims that the market has some sort of magical fore-knowledge of the future.
                    Here in the U.S., home builder stocks like Toll Bros. fell at the same time as the housing market. Not much market magic foresight there.
                    Ed.

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                      Re: Look what just hit the fan in England...

                      i happened to talk with an academic economist. i said the problems were foreseeable, and were in fact foreseen by some. [hell, i saw them coming, and i'm an amateur.] he replied that there are always 30 people saying terrible things are about to happen, so you couldn't really criticize those who didn't listen. i strongly disagree with this analysis, but that's what we're dealing with. rational expectations, efficient market theory and the capital asset pricing model are going to die prolonged and painful deaths, and not without a struggle.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Look what just hit the fan in England...

                        the theories will be modified but not much in the near term.

                        it may be 30 to 40 years (for all the current profs to die) before new frosh are learning substantially different material.

                        Tenured profs will not let go of a 1,000 page textbook they spent the better part of their lives writing, or the ideas in it that they most love and have spent their careers supporting.

                        UNLESS they see a chance to personally profit hugely by overturning the applecart. But since the applecart is being paid for by other profs who love the same theories ...

                        Originally posted by jk View Post
                        i happened to talk with an academic economist. i said the problems were foreseeable, and were in fact foreseen by some. [hell, i saw them coming, and i'm an amateur.] he replied that there are always 30 people saying terrible things are about to happen, so you couldn't really criticize those who didn't listen. i strongly disagree with this analysis, but that's what we're dealing with. rational expectations, efficient market theory and the capital asset pricing model are going to die prolonged and painful deaths, and not without a struggle.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Look what just hit the fan in England...

                          Originally posted by metalman View Post


                          was the 'pound sterling' now the 'pound stinking'?
                          On that note, I have a conceptual question:

                          If a major non-dollar currency like the GBP crashes, does it (a) lower the price of gold in USD because capital flies out of the GBP and into the USD (among other things), strengthening the USD, or (B) raise the price of gold in USD because enough of the capital flight goes into gold to seriously affect international demand? It's pretty clear what happens to the price of gold in GBP, and to judge from the Telegraph, it appears that the popular press is running lots of "buy gold" stories. Are there enough wealthy Britons, or investors in GBP assets, who will want gold in the event of a GBP crash to have a big effect on demand, or are they mostly going to buy "risk-free" US Treasuries? If there's a big run-up in the price of gold in a non-dollar currency, will that suck enough speculative money into the gold market -- and create enough new demand -- to affect the price in other currencies? Is it correct to separate the exchange rate issue from the total market demand issue in this way?

                          It makes sense to me that if we're on the road to ruin, the UK and GBP will get there first. How would a large non-dollar "currency event" affect PM?

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                            Re: Look what just hit the fan in England...

                            Outstanding. We could use some of this clarity and fierce independence in the US senate - is there a single senator in the US who approximates this lucid and independent type of voice?

                            Originally posted by WildspitzE View Post
                            Did you guys see this video yet? on drudge.

                            OUCH.

                            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94lW6Y4tBXs
                            _______________

                            BIO:

                            Campaign against the Lisbon Treaty and expulsion from the EPP-ED

                            He opposed ratification of the Lisbon Treaty in the European Parliament, being involved in organising a filibuster by MEPs from various countries who favoured a referendum[citation needed]. In mimicry of Cato the Elder's Carthago delenda est, he ended every speech, whatever its subject, with a call for the Lisbon Treaty to be put to the vote: "Pactio Olisipiensis censenda est".[7][8]

                            This was meant to display Hannan's and some other UK MEPs opposition to the Treaty, but also led to the significant irritation of the leadership of the European Parliament, which introduced measures to deal with the "filibustering" UK MEPs by amending the procedural rules of the Parliament to give its president more freedom in procedural matters[citation needed]. In the parliamentary session just before the new rules were to be presented by the President of the European Parliament[citation needed] Hans-Gert Pöttering in response to the filibustering tactics by Hannan and other MEPs[citation needed], Hannan stated:

                            He continued by quoting Edmund Burke, but was interrupted mid-quote and cut off by Luigi Cocilovo, one of the 14 Vice-Presidents.[9]
                            Herr Pöttering is a German national and a member of the same political group (EPP-ED) as Hannan. The head of EPP-ED, Joseph Daul, initiated proceedings to expel Hannan immediately. Daniel Hannan left the EPP-ED on 19 February 2008. He now sits as a Conservative without pan-European affiliation.

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                              Re: Look what just hit the fan in England...

                              JK you may be interested in the post-autistic economics network where Steve Keen has written some of his latest articles

                              From their site, a Brief History

                              Theories, scientific and otherwise, do not represent the world as it is but rather by highlighting certain aspects of it while leaving others in the dark. It may be the case that two theories highlight the same aspects of some corner of reality but offer different conclusions. In the last century, this type of situation preoccupied the philosophy of science. Post-Autistic Economics, however, addresses a different kind of situation: one where one theory, that illuminates a few facets of its domain rather well, wants to suppress other theories that would illuminate some of the many facets that it leaves in the dark. This theory is neoclassical economics. Because it has been so successful at sidelining other approaches, it also is called “mainstream economics”.

                              From the 1960s onward, neoclassical economists have increasingly managed to block the employment of non-neoclassical economists in university economics departments and to deny them opportunities to publish in professional journals. They also have narrowed the economics curriculum that universities offer students. At the same time they have increasingly formalized their theory, making it progressively irrelevant to understanding economic reality. And now they are even banishing economic history and the history of economic thought from the curriculum, these being places where the student might be exposed to non-neoclassical ideas. Why has this tragedy happened?

                              Many factors have contributed, but three especially. First, neoclassical economists have as a group deluded themselves into believing that all you need for an exact science is mathematics, and never mind about whether the symbols used refer quantitatively to the real world. What began as an indulgence became an addiction, leading to a collective fantasy of scientific achievement where in most cases none exists. To preserve their illusions, neoclassical economists have found it increasingly necessary to isolate themselves from non-believers.

                              Second, as Joseph Stiglitz has observed, economics has suffered “a triumph of ideology over science”.1 Instead of regarding their theory as a tool in the pursuit of knowledge, neoclassical economists have made it the required viewpoint from which, at all times and in all places, to look at all economic phenomena. This is the position of neoliberalism.

                              Third, today’s economies, including the societies in which they are embedded, are very different from those of the 19th century for which neoclassical economics was invented to describe. These differences become more pronounced every decade as new aspects of economic reality emerge, for example, consumer societies, corporate globalization, economic induced environmental disasters and impending ecological ones, the accelerating gap between the rich and poor, and the movement for equal-opportunity economies. Consequently neoclassical economics sheds light on an ever-smaller proportion of economic reality, leaving more and more of it in the dark for students permitted only the neoclassical viewpoint. This makes the neoclassical monopoly more outrageous and costly every year, requiring of it ever more desperate measures of defense, like eliminating economic history and history of economics from the curriculum.

                              But eventually reality overtakes time-warp worlds like mainstream economics and the Soviet Union. The moment and place of the tipping point, however, nearly always takes people by surprise.
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