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    1. We need shock and awe policies to halt depression
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/c...epression.html

    A quote from the article:

    "Graham Turner, from GFC Economics, fears the Dow could crash to 4,000 by summer unless there is a "quantum reduction" in mortgage rates. The Fed should swoop in to the market – armed with Ben Bernanke's "printing press" – and mop up enough Treasuries to force 10-year yields down to 1pc and mortgage rates to 2.5pc. Monetary shock and awe.

    This remedy is fraught with risk, but all options are ghastly at this point. That is the legacy we have been left by the Greenspan doctrine. We are at the moment of extreme danger in Irving Fisher's "Debt Deflation Theory" (1933) where the ship fails to right itself by natural buoyancy, and capsizes instead.

    From all accounts, the Fed was ready to launch its bond blitz in January. Something happened. Perhaps the hawks awoke in cold sweats at night, fretting about Weimar.

    Perhaps they feared that China and the world will pull the plug on the US bond market. If so, it is time for Washington to get a grip. America remains the hegemonic global power. The Obama team should let it be known – and perhaps Hillary Clinton did just that on her trip to Asia – that any country playing games with the US bond market in this crisis will be treated as an enemy and pay a crushing price.

    Pacific allies already know that they cannot take the US security blanket for granted. As for China – and others pursuing a mercantilist strategy of export-led growth – they must know that the US can shut off its market and wreak havoc to their economy.

    To Europe, they might make it clearer that unless the European Central Bank is brought to heel by the Continent's leaders (whatever Maastricht says) and forced to play its full part in emergency efforts to save the global economy, the NATO military alliance will wither and the region will be left to fend for itself against a revanchist Russia.

    Should the main threat come from an exodus of private wealth, Washington may have to impose temporary capital controls. Never forget, America is the one country with enough strategic depth to go it alone, if necessary. The US is not going to let foreigners keep it trapped in a depression.

    I doubt matters will ever come to this. Japan is already in dire straits. Exports crashed 46pc in January, year-on-year. The Bank of Japan may soon start buying US Treasuries for its own reasons – just as it did from 2003 to 2004 – in order to reverse the 30pc rise of the yen over the last 18 months. If it helps preserve the Sino-US defence alliance in the face of Chinese naval expansion, so much the better."

    A conflict-related outcome is the logical conclusion of our current financial and economic malaise.

    related:

    1. Moody's predicts default rate will exceed peaks hit in Great Depression
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/e...epression.html

    2. Our public debt is hitting Armageddon levels (How does the US compare?)
    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/com...cle5811186.ece
    Last edited by DrYB/C; February 28, 2009, 07:16 PM. Reason: Reworded sentence

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    Re: Coming Attractions?

    Originally posted by DrYB/C View Post
    Perhaps they feared that China and the world will pull the plug on the US bond market. If so, it is time for Washington to get a grip. America remains the hegemonic global power. The Obama team should let it be known – and perhaps Hillary Clinton did just that on her trip to Asia – that any country playing games with the US bond market in this crisis will be treated as an enemy and pay a crushing price.
    Originally posted by DrYB/C View Post
    A conflict-related outcome is the logical conclusion of our current financial and economic malaise.
    Well, with statements such as "If China doesn't keep buying our debt, we're going to treat them as enemies" what else would anyone expect?

    I can never fathom how countries go to war for monetary reasons. It's like murdering someone because they stole something from you when you werent looking.
    Every interest bearing loan is mathematically impossible to pay back.

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    • #3
      Re: Coming Attractions?

      Originally posted by ricket View Post
      Well, with statements such as "If China doesn't keep buying our debt, we're going to treat them as enemies" what else would anyone expect?

      I can never fathom how countries go to war for monetary reasons. It's like murdering someone because they stole something from you when you werent looking.
      Can't recall right now but who was it that said the true reason for all war boils down to one word - covetousness.

      Actually I think several have said it.

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      • #4
        Re: Coming Attractions?

        You know what, Iam not gonna send me and mine to fight to the death for an economic fallacy. We need to grow up and re-learn values from the Chinese who resemble the US circa 1900. War in most cases does NOT promote healthy economic activity. Hopefully this wont have to be refuted empirically, hopefully we can rationally figure the absolute truth of that former statement without without slinging lead.

        This is about values and if the Average G7 person can't come to grips with the fact that he has to share the worlds resources with people who work harder and save more, then he is certainly doomed. I will get cosmetic surgery to look more Asian and renounce my American citizenship to adopt an Asian one if we go to war because China wont buy our debt.

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          Re: Coming Attractions?

          The Bank of Japan may soon start buying US Treasuries for its own reasons – just as it did from 2003 to 2004 – in order to reverse the 30pc rise of the yen over the last 18 months. If it helps preserve the Sino-US defence alliance in the face of Chinese naval expansion, so much the better."
          Sino-US means Chinese-US, not Japanese-US

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          • #6
            Re: Coming Attractions?

            If the chinese stop buying treasuries, there will be a massive run on the USD and the treasuries that the chinese own will be worthless.

            The old saw, if you borrow a little, the bank owns you, if you borrow a lot, you own the bank.

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