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    Nothing new, but given Finster's data being so nicely praised, I thought I would share:


    MONEYNETDAILY
    Federal obligations exceed world GDP
    Does $65.5 trillion terrify anyone yet?




    Posted: February 13, 2009
    11:35 pm Eastern


    By Jerome R. Corsi
    © 2009 WorldNetDaily


    As the Obama administration pushes through Congress its $800 billion deficit-spending economic stimulus plan, the American public is largely unaware that the true deficit of the federal government already is measured in trillions of dollars, and in fact its $65.5 trillion in total obligations exceeds the gross domestic product of the world.

    The total U.S. obligations, including Social Security and Medicare benefits to be paid in the future, effectively have placed the U.S. government in bankruptcy, even before new continuing social welfare obligation embedded in the massive spending plan are taken into account.

    The real 2008 federal budget deficit was $5.1 trillion, not the $455 billion previously reported by the Congressional Budget Office, according to the "2008 Financial Report of the United States Government" as released by the U.S. Department of Treasury.

    The difference between the $455 billion "official" budget deficit numbers and the $5.1 trillion budget deficit cited by "2008 Financial Report of the United States Government" is that the official budget deficit is calculated on a cash basis, where all tax receipts, including Social Security tax receipts, are used to pay government liabilities as they occur.

    But the numbers in the 2008 report are calculated on a GAAP basis ("Generally Accepted Accounting Practices") that include year-for-year changes in the net present value of unfunded liabilities in social insurance programs such as Social Security and Medicare.
    Under cash accounting, the government makes no provision for future Social Security and Medicare benefits in the year in which those benefits accrue.

    "As bad as 2008 was, the $455 billion budget deficit on a cash basis and the $5.1 trillion federal budget deficit on a GAAP accounting basis does not reflect any significant money [from] the financial bailout or Troubled Asset Relief Program, or TARP, which was approved after the close of the fiscal year," economist John Williams, who publishes the Internet website Shadow Government Statistics, told WND.

    "The Congressional Budget Office estimated the fiscal year 2009 budget deficit as being $1.2 trillion on a cash basis and that was before taking into consideration the full costs of the war in Iraq and Afghanistan, before the cost of the Obama nearly $800 billion economic stimulus plan, or the cost of the second $350 billion in TARP funds, as well as all current bailouts being contemplated by the U.S. Treasury and Federal Reserve," he said.

    "The federal government's deficit is hemorrhaging at a pace which threatens the viability of the financial system," Williams added. "The popularly reported 2009 [deficit] will clearly exceed $2 trillion on a cash basis and that full amount has to be funded by Treasury borrowing.
    "It's not likely this will happen without the Federal Reserve acting as lender of last resort for the Treasury by buying Treasury debt and monetizing the debt," he said.

    "Monetizing the debt" is a term used to signify that the Federal Reserve will be required simply to print cash to meet the Treasury debt obligations, acting in this capacity only because the Treasury cannot sell the huge of amount debt elsewhere.

    The Treasury has been largely dependent upon foreign buyers, principally China and Japan and other major holders of U.S. dollar foreign exchange reserves, including OPEC buyers purchasing U.S. debt through London.

    "The appetite of foreign buyers to purchase continued trillions of U.S. debt has become more questionable as the world has witnessed the rapid deterioration of the U.S. fiscal condition in the current financial crisis," Williams noted.




    "Truthfully," Williams pointed out, "there is no Social Security 'lock-box.' There are no funds held in reserve today for Social Security and Medicare obligations that are earned each year. It's only a matter of time until the public realizes that the government is truly bankrupt and no taxes are being held in reserve to pay in the future the Social Security and Medicare benefits taxpayers are earning today."

    Calculations from the "2008 Financial Report of the United States Government" also show that the GAAP negative net worth of the federal government has increased to $59.3 trillion while the total federal obligations under GAAP accounting now total $65.5 trillion.
    The $65.5 trillion total federal obligations under GAAP accounting not only now exceed four times the U.S. gross domestic product, or GDP, the $65.5 trillion deficit exceeds total world GDP.

    "In the seven years of GAAP reporting, we have seen an annual average deficit in excess of $4 trillion, which could not be possibly covered by any form of taxation," Williams argued.

    "Shy of the government severely slashing social welfare programs, federal deficits of this magnitude are beyond any hope of containment, government or otherwise," he said.

    "Put simply, there is no way the government can possibly pay for the level of social welfare benefits the federal government has promised unless the government simply prints cash and debases the currency, which the government will increasingly be doing this year," Williams said, explaining in more detail why he feels the government is now in the process of monetizing the federal debt.

    "Social Security and Medicare must be shown as liabilities on the federal balance sheet in the year they accrue according to GAAP accounting," Williams argues. "To do otherwise is irresponsible, nothing more than an attempt to hide the painful truth from the American public. The public has a right to know just how bad off the federal government budget deficit situation really is, especially since the situation is rapidly spinning out of control.

    "The federal government is bankrupt," Williams told WND. "In a post-Enron world, if the federal government were a corporation such as General Motors, the president and senior Treasury officers would be in federal penitentiary."

    Article Link here:
    http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.p...w&pageId=88851

  • #2
    Re: US Federal obligations exceed world GDP

    Originally posted by LargoWinch View Post
    The $65.5 trillion total federal obligations under GAAP accounting not only now exceed four times the U.S. gross domestic product, or GDP, the $65.5 trillion deficit exceeds total world GDP.
    The $65.5 trillion number is the projected shortfall over decades, whereas the GDP figures cited are for a single year. I agree with the message of the article, but presenting the numbers in this form is misleading. If the total projected deficit over three decades (or whatever) is $65.5 trillion, then one should compare that to the GDP summed over the same time span -- not the GDP for a single year. There is a cumulative $65.5 trillion shortfall which won't be covered by projected tax revenue -- and that is a huge problem -- but it won't all come due in a single year.

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      Re: US Federal obligations exceed world GDP

      Originally posted by ASH View Post
      The $65.5 trillion number is the projected shortfall over decades, whereas the GDP figures cited are for a single year. I agree with the message of the article, but presenting the numbers in this form is misleading. If the total projected deficit over three decades (or whatever) is $65.5 trillion, then one should compare that to the GDP summed over the same time span -- not the GDP for a single year. There is a cumulative $65.5 trillion shortfall which won't be covered by projected tax revenue -- and that is a huge problem -- but it won't all come due in a single year.
      I agree, and made a similar point in another thread that referred to this article. I would also point out that mixing social security with medicare is also misleading, as social security is projected to be solvent until 2042, whereas medicare until 2012.

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        Re: US Federal obligations exceed world GDP

        Originally posted by CharlesTMungerFan View Post
        I agree, and made a similar point in another thread that referred to this article. I would also point out that mixing social security with medicare is also misleading, as social security is projected to be solvent until 2042, whereas medicare until 2012.
        Well... the definition of "solvent" isn't the same as "funded". The 2042 date for Social Security assumes that withdrawals from and interest income "earned" by the Trust Funds can actually be paid out of general tax revenue. Social Security starts sucking money out of the general fund in 2018. This creates a budgetary problem for the government, even if it isn't a statutory problem for Social Security. (However, despite that fact that I myself am an anti-Social Security crank, I have to admit that you are absolutely correct, quantitatively, that Medicare is the main budgetary problem -- Social Security is a sideshow.)

        This is from A Summary of the 2008 Annual Reports of the Trustees of the Social Security and Medicare Trust Funds:
        For OASDI, interest income will first be needed to pay a portion of benefits in 2017, although the trust funds will continue to accumulate assets. In 2027, trust fund assets will begin to be depleted and are projected to be exhausted in 2041, after which continuing tax income would be sufficient to cover 78 percent of scheduled benefits.

        ...

        Concern about the long-range financial outlook for Medicare and Social Security often focuses on the exhaustion dates for the HI and OASDI Trust Funds—the time when projected finances under current law would be insufficient to pay the full amount of scheduled benefits. A more immediate issue is the growing burden that the programs will place on the Federal budget well before the trust funds are exhausted.

        ...

        The initial negative amounts shown for OASDI indicate that tax income exceeds cost (which occurs during 2008-16) and represent net cash flow to the Treasury that results in the issuance of special Treasury bonds to the trust funds. Those OASDI net revenues are more than offset by the Medicare general revenue requirements under current law. For instance, in 2008 the Social Security tax income surplus ($79 billion) is estimated to be significantly smaller than the statutory Medicare Part B and Part D general revenue transfers, resulting in an overall cash requirement of $117 billion (0.8 percent of GDP) from the general fund of the Treasury.

        The combined difference grows each year, so that by 2017, net revenue flows from the general fund will total $449 billion (2.0 percent of GDP). The positive amounts that begin in 2017 for OASDI, and in 2008 for HI, initially represent payments the Treasury must make to the trust funds when assets are redeemed to help pay benefits in years prior to exhaustion of the funds. Note that neither the redemption of trust fund bonds, nor interest paid on those bonds, provides any new net income to the Treasury, which must finance redemptions and interest payments through some combination of increased taxation, reductions in other government spending, or additional borrowing from the public.

        Note that the paragraph that begins "the combined difference" does lump Social Security and Medicare obligations together. You can point a browser here to see a bar chart from the report that breaks down the components. Social Security starts to suck money out of the general fund in 2018 (the bar chart is broken down by decade, but you can find the exact date in a table further up the page, above the chart). So, the $449 billion draw on the general fund projected for 2017 is all due to Medicare. Afterwards, however, the demands from Social Security rise to be significant -- although always much smaller than Medicare.

        The important point here is that although Social Security is solvent on paper out to 2042, it contributes to the fiscal problem much sooner, because "solvency" requires tapping general tax revenue. So, in fact, from a budget standpoint, the entitlements crisis is right around the corner (mostly driven by Medicare), even though from a statutory standpoint the problems with Social Security are some decades away.
        Last edited by ASH; February 17, 2009, 09:30 PM.

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        • #5
          Re: US Federal obligations exceed world GDP

          Originally posted by ASH View Post
          The $65.5 trillion number is the projected shortfall over decades, whereas the GDP figures cited are for a single year. I agree with the message of the article, but presenting the numbers in this form is misleading.
          I guess the goal of this is to try to wake-up the otherwise moribound populace before high and sustained inflation hits?

          I forgot that joe6pack does not know what a Trillion is. So that is a problem #1.

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          • #6
            Re: US Federal obligations exceed world GDP

            Originally posted by LargoWinch View Post
            I forgot that joe6pack does not know what a Trillion is. So that is a problem #1.
            Joe6pack doesn't know what GAAP, unfunded liabilities, or cash basis accounting is either....

            Tell him what he wants to hear and he will keep on drinking his PBR and turn on NASCAR on the tee-veee.

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            • #7
              Re: US Federal obligations exceed world GDP

              Originally posted by LargoWinch View Post
              I forgot that joe6pack does not know what a Trillion is. So that is a problem #1.
              I guess J6P is about to find out. Sometimes, it's easier to show someone than tell them. ;)

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