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  • Is this an argument for $USD strength ??

    I am allowed to post a 10% portion of there current newsletter, thats ok under copyright, they say !!

    Strength - Euro issues, China has to buy US TBonds
    Weakness - Bond market supply and risk


    Source: www.prudentsquirrel.com

    US T bond situation


    As we noted, a critical thing to watch is the health of the US Treasury bond market. Following that will give clues before any serious USD devaluation is imminent.

    This year yields have risen a fair amount from their ridiculous lows in Dec 08 amidst the financial panic. The 3 month is about .29%, or practically zero, and the 10 year is 2.89%, which the Fed is trying to lower since that is a mortgage bell weather. However, since December, 10 YTreasury rates have risen considerably.

    The US Treasury is issuing so many bonds now with all these bailouts, with another $1 to 2 trillion more to come this year beyond the usual issuance, so that US Treasury bond rates will have to rise. So far, the US has been able to sell pretty much all it wants, but that could be about to change.

    China stated last week that they might ask the US to ‘guarantee’ the $680 billion of US treasuries they own. But, the next day, appeared to retract that statement. Nevertheless, that is a serious development in the US treasury market.

    “Feb. 11 (Bloomberg) -- China should seek guarantees that its $682 billion holdings of U.S. government debt won’t be eroded by “reckless policies,” said Yu Yongding, a former adviser to the central bank.

    The U.S. “should make the Chinese feel confident that the value of the assets at least will not be eroded in a significant way,” Yu, who now heads the World Economics and Politics Institute at the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences, said in response to e-mailed questions yesterday from Beijing. He declined to elaborate on the assurances needed by China, the biggest foreign holder of U.S. government debt. ...”
    Bloomberg.com

    China and others are continuing to buy US Treasuries, however, with China implementing a roughly $500 billion economic stimulus of their own to combat the world recession, it is not likely they can continue buying as many US Treasuries as before. And, this comes at the same time the US is dramatically increasing new debt. Other usual Treasury bond customers, such as the Mid East or other major trade partners, are also having to spend stimulus too and do bailouts, which again makes the overall market for US Treasuries smaller. And this situation is not going to improve soon.

    The point being that the buyer of last resort is the US Fed, which stated this January that they will consider buying longer term US Treasuries to pull down the interest rates and effectively lower US mortgage rates. But, in fact, the real reason may also be that the Fed has to step in now and actually start buying US Treasuries directly to support the auctions.

    The last thing the US needs at this point is to start having failed Treasury auctions where the interest rates start spiking up.

    But if the Fed actually buys US Treasuries, this is perceived to be literal printing of money to finance the US Government, and that is a big no no in the bond market. In fact, even though the US Fed stated they will consider buying US Treasuries directly to suppress yields, they have yet to publicly do it (although there are stories of anonymous big buyers stepping in at the last moment in some actions recently).

    And Pimco’s Bill Gross stated that if the Fed starts buying US Treasuries, then he won’t buy them. Which makes sense. Of course, he is also stating that he likes the yields on corporate bonds and other areas now. But, as a bond manager, he must buy bonds of some type or else he is out of business. I personally would stay away from the bond markets right now.

    In fact, I am beginning to get the feeling that the US Treasury market has already peaked, and may be in for a decline, and depending on how this works out, it could hurt the USD quite a bit. It kind of depends on how much appetite there remains for the next $1 or 2 trillion of US Treasuries coming out this year. But this bears close watching.

    And, this sovereign bond market is not only a problem for the US. All across the EU there are rumblings of trouble in various bond actions, and the bond markets appear to be getting fatigued with all the gigantic bailouts over the last year and a half.

    Also, not good for the Euro, is the critical state of the Eastern European bank crisis spilling over to the EU banks. They have to roll over about $400 billion of debt to the big EU banks who are heavily exposed there, and the markets are not functioning, and there will be defaults that spill to the EU banks.

    Next big financial shoe to drop


    Which brings up the next question: When will the US Treasury market start to falter, the USD to falter, and then by correlation the rest of the worlds bond markets falter, and then of course their currencies start to really falter??? This is the next big shoe to drop and we are definitely seeing indications (albeit somewhat anecdotal, but some very not anecdotal such as the trouble with the Russian Ruble and a possible default by them, and big trouble with the Korean Won too).

    And some major trouble with other currencies, particularly the Eastern European and Baltic countries with unsustainable fiscal deficits – and their currencies getting killed as we speak. There is definitely some big trouble brewing out there in the EU, Russia, Eastern Europe, and the US. Asia is also exposed.

    Does China have a choice?


    China is in a dilemma with their trade surpluses. They get something like $40 billion US a month they have to put somewhere. They stated this week that they really have no where to put that much money except by buying US Treasuries, and they complained that the US is getting to the point of devaluing the USD with all these $trillions this year of bailouts. For example, ‘where can you put $40 billion, as they say, into gold?’ They would quickly crash the USD if they did, and the value of their $680 billion of US Treasuries would collapse.

    So, effectively the Chinese have to play along, but they clearly stated they don’t like it. However, this does give them a lot of leverage to resist any US Trade protectionism – by threatening to sell US Treasuries or just not buying.

    However, if the USD already had its days numbered, the new 2 or 3 $trillion of new bonds to finance all the bailouts have certainly shortened them. But, as with China for example, the world does not have any real alternative to the USD at this point, and the Euro, for example, is in its own considerable difficulties…

    At any rate, the future of gold and gold stocks (Silver too) is bright. Of course the stock volatility is vexing, but that’s the way things are.

    The Euro


    As we have discussed before, the Euro and the EU are in a great deal of trouble. In fact, because the ECB cannot do emergency infusions on the scale of the US Fed, they have few alternatives to a pan EU bank crisis. Eventually this is going to occur. In the US and the EU, we have passed stage I of the credit crisis, and with massive government interventions, stemmed a world ‘bank holiday’. However, the EU bank situation is actually worse than the US, if that can be imagined. And, they have less flexibility to intervene because Germany won’t sign on to more massive bailouts of their poorer neighbors.

    The Eastern EU economies have borrowed heavily from EU banks and are way overextended. They have to roll over $400 billion worth of credit this year, and that is not going to be successful. We are right on the verge of insolvency across the East EU, and that is already causing riots and demonstrations. Once the actual defaults start to happen, the fiscal emergency will then spread back to the EU banks, already limping. And, maybe we get an EU bank holiday.

    In case anyone thinks the EU will get around this with an economic recovery, or ‘be saved by the bell’, consider that Germany’s economy contracted at an amazing 8% rate (annualized) in the end of 2008. And Germany is the economic powerhouse of the EU.

    So, since an economic recovery is highly unlikely in 2009, and we already have imminent insolvencies in the Eastern EU, well, you get the idea…They will go insolvent, and a new and deeper bank crisis will engulf the entire EU region by contagion. Needless to say, this is not going to be good for the Euro or EU stability.

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    Re: Is this an argument for $USD strength ??

    So China said "Except for US Treasuries, what can you hold? Gold?"

    http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.js...81474977593507

    I wonder if the move in gold is China dropping a very big hint?

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      Re: Is this an argument for $USD strength ??

      Originally posted by xtronics View Post
      So China said "Except for US Treasuries, what can you hold? Gold?"

      http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.js...81474977593507

      I wonder if the move in gold is China dropping a very big hint?

      Logic is simple, China's is supporting the dollar because it has not finished buying the commodities it wants to buy. China needs to exchange as much of the dollars it has for commodities and hard asset before it loses its value.

      This is like dumping good money to prop up a phony money.

      The other consideration is the exchange rate. China needs to buy time to engineer a soft landing for itself - sending the laid off factory workers to the fields, etc.

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        Re: Is this an argument for $USD strength ??

        Originally posted by touchring View Post
        Logic is simple, China's is supporting the dollar because it has not finished buying the commodities it wants to buy. China needs to exchange as much of the dollars it has for commodities and hard asset before it loses its value.

        This is like dumping good money to prop up a phony money.

        The other consideration is the exchange rate. China needs to buy time to engineer a soft landing for itself - sending the laid off factory workers to the fields, etc.
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        With Prices Down, China’s Stocking Up

        Prices for commodities like aluminum, copper, iron ore and oil are all down substantially from last year as the global financial crisis has torpedoed demand. And now that prices have gone down, China’s commodities stockpiles are going up.


        Imports of copper, iron ore, and oil all rose in December, as China took advantage of low commodities prices:
        • Iron ore imports were up 6.2% in December, on a year-over-year basis.
        • Copper imports were up 19.3%.
        • And imports of crude oil climbed 11.6%.
        "The authorities are thinking about the issue from a strategic point of view," a senior researcher at China’s State Reserve Bureau (SRB) told Reuters. "As almost all raw material prices went sky-high in the last few years, China has not built up some of the key state reserves. Now is a much better time to stock up."


        The government announced last month that it would purchase of 290,000 metric tons of aluminum from eight of the nation’s largest smelters at about $1,806 a ton. And on Jan. 13, representatives from the SRB again met with domestic smelters, this time to discuss plans to build a stockpile of up to 300,000 tons of zinc - a metal used in galvanized steel.

        A 300,000-ton zinc reserve could cost about $494 million (3.36 billion yuan), based on recent spot prices of $1,630-$1,640 a metric ton, as quoted on the Shanghai Nonferrous Metals Market.

        Market participants speculate that the government is also mulling a 200,000-ton copper reserve, now that prices for that metal have tumbled more than 50% from a record $8,940 a metric ton last year.

        "China will buy copper for its reserves," SRB Executive Director and Vice President Wang Chiwei said at a conference in Shanghai. "Prices right now are attractive," Wang added, noting that purchases would "suit national interests."

        Chinese copper demand is expected to grow moderately in 2009, despite the global downturn. Officials expect growth of just over 2% next year, but Barclays Capital (ADR:

        BCS) analyst Yingxi Yu told Forbes that demand growth could be closer to 3.5%.

        The SRB may increase stockpiles of copper by as much as 74% in the next two years, Scotia Capital Inc. predicted in October.

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          Re: Is this an argument for $USD strength ??

          Thanks for posting the news. This might explain why the dry bulk index started climbing all of a sudden. Stocking up on commodities is a shrewd move, aluminium and copper are non-perishable.

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            Re: Is this an argument for $USD strength ??

            We are discussing on another thread here adjacent, the value (or even just the permissibility!) of government making strategic investments in a few select areas to genuinely further the interests of it's nation. This seems a perfect example of where such Government intervention could not be replicated as coherently by private industry, to carry out a national strategic goal. Here's China, acting strategically by stockpiling critical resources - actually given their ponzi USD hostage predicament, for them this is a combination of a strategically wise move and a wily one also, to figure out ways to outsmart or get out from under Uncle Sam's currency deadbeat mafia-grip.

            The idea of pouring ever larger amounts into securing strategic commodity alliances worldwide (buying up commodity producers, farmland etc, may begin to look wiser to them with each passing day.

            Nothing will more closely approximate real money or wealth, than large stockpiles of commodities in 15-20 years time as the world rapidly overpopulates and resources begin to dwindle putting a ferocious squeeze upon global GDP growth. It's a perfect idea for the Chinese. Heavily overpopulated, rapidly industrialising, resource poor nation, heading into the "decades of commodities ascendance" for the entire world. I would not be surprised to see this gambit turn into a torrent of alternative parked investments, for the trapped USD and treasuries they hold.

            Commodities right now on screaming sale, and the Chinese reputedly love a bargain.

            All of that spells a rising tide for commodities, an (eventually) strongly ebbing tide for the USD relative to commodities. EJ's rising commodities theme as a direct corrolary of the nuclear blast currently being waged against the USD only adds one more component to the combustible mix underpinning commodities. I'd conclude this is a wonderful time to start nibbling at Jim Rogers RICI index for the long haul, if you are within any USD denominated zone. Heck, make that within any currency zone. China has overwhelming reasons to underpin Jim Rogers own thesis re: commodities. Toxic pile of dollars to escape. Resource poor. Heading into the "century of commodities".

            Originally posted by touchring View Post
            Thanks for posting the news. This might explain why the dry bulk index started climbing all of a sudden. Stocking up on commodities is a shrewd move, aluminium and copper are non-perishable.

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              Re: Is this an argument for $USD strength ??

              China is spending USD on RIO and here

              http://business.smh.com.au/business/...0216-898n.html

              They are picking uip Australian mines at fire sale prices. Further if they basically regard their USDE Reserves as valueless then they don't have to worry about how much they might pay. Australia has to see to finance our CAD and Foreign debt. Some estimates of ownership of Australia's mining resources by foreign interests already stand at 80%. By the time this is over we will be serfs in our own land.

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              • #8
                Re: Is this an argument for $USD strength ??

                Outback -

                If Australia really does effectively sell off practically all it's natural resources, look to the many countries in the world who are nationalizing their resource base and / or repudiating prior deals, contracts etc (the Venezuela's and Bolivia's of the world today). It is not a question of "if", but rather only a question of "when" - resources are going to become so strained in supply relative to a population of the world cruising up to 8 billion by 2030 that all the "rules" regarding their ownership will change.

                Just because you think Australia is a paragon of free market dealings (which it currently is) does not mean it will remain so tomorrow. :cool:

                They could learn how to scam on their contractual obligations every bit as well as the US. This could happen within as little as 15 years. The availability of strategic commodities will become a red hot issue in a very short time. I give it ten years. This is where I part company with some of the iTulip orthodoxy on commodities as being primarily an expression of monetary events. That's been the truism until now, but it's about to change drastically, really soon. Watch Australia change right along with that changing global trend.

                Originally posted by The Outback Oracle View Post
                China is spending USD on RIO and here

                http://business.smh.com.au/business/...0216-898n.html

                They are picking uip Australian mines at fire sale prices. Further if they basically regard their USDE Reserves as valueless then they don't have to worry about how much they might pay. Australia has to see to finance our CAD and Foreign debt. Some estimates of ownership of Australia's mining resources by foreign interests already stand at 80%. By the time this is over we will be serfs in our own land.

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                  Re: Is this an argument for $USD strength ??

                  Originally posted by Lukester View Post
                  Outback -

                  If Australia really does effectively sell off practically all it's natural resources, look to the many countries in the world who are nationalizing their resource base and / or repudiating prior deals, contracts etc (the Venezuela's and Bolivia's of the world today). It is not a question of "if", but rather only a question of "when" - resources are going to become so strained in supply relative to a population of the world cruising up to 8 billion by 2030 that all the "rules" regarding their ownership will change.

                  Just because you think Australia is a paragon of free market dealings (which it currently is) does not mean it will remain so tomorrow. :cool:

                  They could learn how to scam on their contractual obligations every bit as well as the US. This could happen within as little as 15 years. The availability of strategic commodities will become a red hot issue in a very short time. I give it ten years. This is where I part company with some of the iTulip orthodoxy on commodities as being primarily an expression of monetary events. That's been the truism until now, but it's about to change drastically, really soon. Watch Australia change right along with that changing global trend.
                  OZ Minerals Shares Trade Below Bid Price on Approval Concern

                  Feb. 17 (Bloomberg) -- OZ Minerals Ltd., the world’s second-largest zinc mining company, traded 16 percent below the bid price of China Minmetals Corp.’s A$2.6 billion ($1.7 billion) takeover on concern Australia may block the deal...

                  ...The bid needs approval from Australia’s foreign investment regulator and Treasurer Wayne Swan, who last week tightened takeover laws when Aluminum Corp. of China agreed to invest $19.5 billion in Rio Tinto Group. The rout in commodity prices is prompting China to lock in global resources by targeting debt-laden mining companies in need of funds...

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                    Re: Is this an argument for $USD strength ??

                    Originally posted by The Outback Oracle View Post
                    China is spending USD on RIO and here

                    http://business.smh.com.au/business/...0216-898n.html

                    They are picking uip Australian mines at fire sale prices. Further if they basically regard their USDE Reserves as valueless then they don't have to worry about how much they might pay. Australia has to see to finance our CAD and Foreign debt. Some estimates of ownership of Australia's mining resources by foreign interests already stand at 80%. By the time this is over we will be serfs in our own land.
                    BG Lifts Bid for Pure to A$995 Million, Topping Arrow

                    Feb. 17 (Bloomberg) -- BG Group Plc raised its hostile offer for Pure Energy Resources Ltd. to A$995 million ($646 million), topping a bid by Arrow Energy Ltd., as it seeks to add coal-seam gas reserves for an Australian export venture...

                    ...Pure is exploring for coal-seam gas, which mostly comprises methane on the surface of coal. BG, Arrow’s coal-seam gas partner Royal Dutch Shell Plc, Petronas and ConocoPhillips are among the companies in five rival ventures planning to convert coal-seam gas into LNG for export to Asia, the biggest market for the fuel...

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                    • #11
                      Re: Is this an argument for $USD strength ??

                      Resources and resource companies are great diversification opportunities for the Chinese reserves. As for gold, I believe the IMF is talking of providing them a good opportunity to buy a nice amount (400 tonnes) for a single price!

                      http://www.commodityonline.com/news/...15118-3-1.html

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                      • #12
                        Re: Is this an argument for $USD strength ??

                        So long as the US dollar buys more with each passing day, this is a deflation, and the case for gold is still suspect. First and foremost, gold is an inflation hedge, not a deflation hedge.

                        One more thing that keeps bothering me: Bernanke keeps tipping his hand that a de-valuation lies ahead. Why would he tip his hand if a de-valuation and a print-a-thon lies ahead? In other words, the case for gold is too obvious, just like the case for oil was too obvious at $147 per barrel..... Something smells.

                        Here is the case against gold: Trillions of dollars in wealth has been wiped-out in the commodities markets, the stock markets, the real estate markets, and everyone is getting poorer. Even the Saudis are getting poorer.

                        Who is buying? Just the gamblers in the commodities markets, not the jewelers; there is not much action in the soukes to buy gold, and the soukes tell all.

                        Maybe China will buy, and maybe it won't. My guess is that China will buy gold quietly and slowly, but that won't help the gold price much. That move by China is probably largely in the gold price already.

                        The last thing China wants to do is de-stabilize the world markets because it depends upon healthy world markets to sell its products. China needs a strong US dollar probably more than any nation in the world. A gold rush and a run on the US dollar is the last thing China wants.
                        Last edited by Starving Steve; February 16, 2009, 11:49 PM.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Is this an argument for $USD strength ??

                          Steve - It's more complicated than that. The rising USD with rising gold is saying something also about what's happening to the currencies everywhere else in the world - every other currency is weakening sharply against gold as well as against the USD. Can't be drawing your conclusions about "inflation / deflation" exclusively from the USD.

                          You can see massive deflation of asset values worldwide, massive collapse of trade, even collapse of equities and commodities. But if you see ALL of those currencies collapsing against gold, that cannot be describing quite the same straightforward "deflation" you infer based on your local observations of USD purchasing power at your supermarket and for services.

                          The US is not experiencing something in isolation. The event is global, and whatever is happening in terms of currency strengthening or weakening worldwide should have a place in your evaluation of what's occurring at the largest set of parentheses.





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                          • #14
                            Re: Is this an argument for $USD strength ??

                            I have three Xs on your post that didn't come thru onto my computer. But reading what you did post, I accept that your counter-argument is valid: Gold is rising against every world currency, not just the US dollar.
                            That is a very important point and a warning to the world.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Is this an argument for $USD strength ??

                              If you are LONG GOLD, take profits NOW, But back under $700...

                              There may be a $25 to $50 momentum still to the upside, but thats it.

                              Scary 2009 will bring down gold as funds need monies from somewhere as more deleveraging goes on.

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