Putting 2 and 2 together - What Next ?

[sishya]

I am starting to get this weird restless feeling again about the economy(actually social issues in USA). The last time I had such a feeling was last year during March 2008, but once clearer picture emerged and stock market fell and unemployment grew, I finally got the picture and it was OK.

NOTE : I am socially conservative but fiscally populist.

Recent news
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- A large spending stimulus bill which is intended to cushion the blow of unemployment.
- Some rich people are moving their capital to outside the country.
- New Hampshire Bill to protect state rights.
- Obama and Rahm Immanuel mentioning about youth squads with mandatory service for young adults.
- slow creeping up of crimes in various cities.
- Increase in volume of people buying Guns.

These events paint a picture of coming breakdown of social order in future. The spending bill may actually be to prevent riots and hopelessness among the masses. If there is going to be riots, it will be something new to this country which can lead to tribal tendencies. After the economic despair, is it going to to be social despair and disorder ?

I may be paranoid and conjuring things that may not come to pass, but it
is better to be safe than sorry.

Friends, what is the likely prognosis for the immediate future of USA.

[goadam1]

Re: Putting 2 and 2 together - What Next ?

Where do you live?

[sishya]

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Where do you live?

Central Valley California near stockton.

[goadam1]

Re: Putting 2 and 2 together - What Next ?

That place is a little depressing. The housing crash probably sucks the life out of the central valley. I don't even know what the business is there besides farming and services. I live in NY and it will get suckola here. But do you sound a little doomerish. Google up itulip "are you a doomer."

[goadam1]

Re: Putting 2 and 2 together - What Next ?

I think "youth squads" is what strikes me as over the top.

[Sidewinder]

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I think "youth squads" is what strikes me as over the top.

Are you suggesting Sturmabteilung?:eek:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brown_shirts

SW

[Master Shake]

Re: Putting 2 and 2 together - What Next ?

I am starting to get this weird restless feeling again about the economy(actually social issues in USA). The last time I had such a feeling was last year during March 2008, but once clearer picture emerged and stock market fell and unemployment grew, I finally got the picture and it was OK.

NOTE : I am socially conservative but fiscally populist.

Recent news
=========
- A large spending stimulus bill which is intended to cushion the blow of unemployment.
- Some rich people are moving their capital to outside the country.
- New Hampshire Bill to protect state rights.
- Obama and Rahm Immanuel mentioning about youth squads with mandatory service for young adults.
- slow creeping up of crimes in various cities.
- Increase in volume of people buying Guns.

These events paint a picture of coming breakdown of social order in future. The spending bill may actually be to prevent riots and hopelessness among the masses. If there is going to be riots, it will be something new to this country which can lead to tribal tendencies. After the economic despair, is it going to to be social despair and disorder ?

I may be paranoid and conjuring things that may not come to pass, but it
is better to be safe than sorry.

Friends, what is the likely prognosis for the immediate future of USA.

During the Great Depression, we were a much more homogeneous society than we are today. Despite the multi-culti dogma that diversity is a strength, it is the exact opposite. Underlying ethnic/cultural tensions can be papered over in boom times, but when times turn bad, and they are going to be very bad, the cracks in the social fabric become much more evident and pronounced.

We are all tribal. In the past, immigrants, legal or not, were expected to assimilate and acculturate themselves to the dominant culture. In the process, they also enriched and augmented the dominant culture. This was the "melting pot" or what I like to call the "stew pot" ideal.

The New Left of the 60's and their antecedents, declared war on the very concept of assimilation. They emphasized a "salad bowl" metaphor and promoted diversity and multi-culturalism, which was sold as a celebration of differences, but was, at heart, an attack on the glue, the mortar, that bound a country together.

Maybe enough of the mortar remains to hold the country together during this Great Depression. We'll see soon enough.

[flintlock]

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Should I be forming a local Freikorps?

[we_are_toast]

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During the Great Depression, we were a much more homogeneous society than we are today.

Got something that shows this is true? Want to explain what it even means?

[goadam1]

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I'm suggesting that we aren't up to brown shirts in this country. What we have here is Wal-mart shoppers who will vote against there interest because of God, racism, stupidity and homophobia. But we won't have Obama brown shirts.

[goadam1]

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I am the lettuce and you are a cucumber and we can get along just fine.

[flintlock]

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I am the lettuce and you are a cucumber and we can get along just fine.

And the Federal government is the fat guy at the deli counter who just ordered you for lunch.

[metalman]

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[Guest]

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This place really benefits from the Metalmans among us, those enthusiastically self-appointed proctors who make sure threads are "relevance-compliant". Don't you feel more secure folks, to know that the quality of your posts is being observed at all times by a wise but informally appointed editorial eye? I'm so thankful that I have parental guidance here, to pick me up if I should stumble and wind up posting something specious. We could multiply this governance by a factor of ten, and then one in every five of us could be watching out for the content of the other four's posts. That would really tighten up the content.