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  • #16
    Re: Car bombing comes to America

    Originally posted by FRED View Post
    Warning: this will look very much like doomer porn today but, at the rate things are going, we don't think it will by 2010. It is a pre-release version and an experiment, not available on youtube.

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    Reminds me of Putin in Germany 2007

    In Russia’s opinion, the militarisation of outer space could have unpredictable consequences for the international community, and provoke nothing less than the beginning of a nuclear era. And we have come forward more than once with initiatives designed to prevent the use of weapons in outer space.

    Today I would like to tell you that we have prepared a project for an agreement on the prevention of deploying weapons in outer space. And in the near future it will be sent to our partners as an official proposal. Let’s work on this together.

    Plans to expand certain elements of the anti-missile defence system to Europe cannot help but disturb us. Who needs the next step of what would be, in this case, an inevitable arms race? I deeply doubt that Europeans themselves do.

    Missile weapons with a range of about five to eight thousand kilometres that really pose a threat to Europe do not exist in any of the so-called problem countries. And in the near future and prospects, this will not happen and is not even foreseeable. And any hypothetical launch of, for example, a North Korean rocket to American territory through western Europe obviously contradicts the laws of ballistics. As we say in Russia, it would be like using the right hand to reach the left ear.

    http://www.securityconference.de/kon...ache=en&id=179

    And all the other behind the scenes stuff since 911

    Not Just A Last Resort?
    A Global Strike Plan, With a Nuclear Option

    By William Arkin

    Sunday, May 15, 2005; Page B01


    Early last summer, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld approved a top secret "Interim Global Strike Alert Order" directing the military to assume and maintain readiness to attack hostile countries that are developing weapons of mass destruction, specifically Iran and North Korea.

    Two months later, Lt. Gen. Bruce Carlson, commander of the 8th Air Force, told a reporter that his fleet of B-2 and B-52 bombers had changed its way of operating so that it could be ready to carry out such missions. "We're now at the point where we are essentially on alert," Carlson said in an interview with the Shreveport (La.) Times. "We have the capacity to plan and execute global strikes." Carlson said his forces were the U.S. Strategic Command's "focal point for global strike" and could execute an attack "in half a day or less."


    In the secret world of military planning, global strike has become the term of art to describe a specific preemptive attack. When military officials refer to global strike, they stress its conventional elements. Surprisingly, however, global strike also includes a nuclear option, which runs counter to traditional U.S. notions about the defensive role of nuclear weapons.

    ...
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...051400071.html

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    • #17
      Re: Car bombing comes to America

      Originally posted by FRED View Post
      You may recall this video on August of 2007 in the early days of the crisis that ended with the ominous warning, "Let's pray it works?"






      Well, it didn't work.






      We're already hard at work on a series of videos to be published around the time of the 2010 elections, designed to inform the viewer that, since everything else has played out as if a re-run of the 1920s and 1930s with nauseating predictability, there is a lot at stake because unlike the 1930s, the idiots have nukes, and by idiots I mean, of course, our governments. The series will be our contribution to the pro-peace side of an argument that we expect will be raging within the US polity by that time on the issue of how to deal with growing external threats as the international bickering that started at Davos last week likely escalates into more serious confrontations.

      Warning: this will look very much like doomer porn today but, at the rate things are going, we don't think it will by 2010. It is a pre-release version and an experiment, not available on youtube.


      Yes Fred. War has me a little worried as it was a get out of jail free card after the last depression. Would they do it again? They do say everything comes in threes.

      The government marketing departments and agencies will need time to set up an asset in another country to be the evil bogie man. Maybe they already have an asset or two ready just in case? I know things are happening quickly this time round, but what you do reckon on the timeline, 2, 4 or 9 years if they decide to do it. Is 2009 1930?

      I don't think nukes will be used, but other hi-tech and even scarier weapons will be deployed. The ones which are secret, that I am sure the US government (if not others) have developed privately, could come out of the woodwork.

      I reckon the nukes card is just to scare us into submission. I'm sure the cold war was exceedingly profitable for some. The real trump cards, I'm positive, they keep to themselves.

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      • #18
        Re: Car bombing comes to America

        Might be a good idea for everyone to keep ears to the ground to see if any country or countries start spending more money on the military, or any other clues.

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        • #19
          Re: Car bombing comes to America

          Originally posted by labasta View Post
          Might be a good idea for everyone to keep ears to the ground to see if any country or countries start spending more money on the military, or any other clues.
          You mean like this?

          Looks like they are bringing the band back together.

          http://www.russiatoday.com/news/news/36833

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          • #20
            Re: Car bombing comes to America

            Originally posted by seanm123 View Post
            You mean like this?

            Looks like they are bringing the band back together.

            http://www.russiatoday.com/news/news/36833

            Good find.

            Oh dear.

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            • #21
              Re: Car bombing comes to America

              FIRE's inevitable endgame. Now...or later.

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              • #22
                Re: Car bombing comes to America

                Originally posted by labasta View Post
                Might be a good idea for everyone to keep ears to the ground to see if any country or countries start spending more money on the military, or any other clues.
                Yeah, it may be really scary if they think about catching up with us!

                Oh the horror!!!

                http://www.globalissues.org/article/...itary-spending

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                • #23
                  Re: Car bombing comes to America

                  Originally posted by labasta View Post
                  Might be a good idea for everyone to keep ears to the ground to see if any country or countries start spending more money on the military, or any other clues.
                  there are other far more effective intelligence indicators for conflict risk than military spending

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                  • #24
                    Re: Car bombing comes to America

                    Originally posted by lakedaemonian View Post
                    there are other far more effective intelligence indicators for conflict risk than military spending
                    Let's hear them. It could help us determine the likelihood a lot better.


                    It only took one or two countries to militarize in the run up to the last world war. Will Russia and China be the new Germany/Japan?

                    Or maybe the first world war is the one to look at.
                    Last edited by labasta; February 05, 2009, 10:45 AM.

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                    • #25
                      Re: Car bombing comes to America

                      Three world wars reminds of something tinfoil hatish. (i.e. no proof whatsoever)

                      Found it. Good ol' Albert Pike.

                      http://www.threeworldwars.com/albert-pike2.htm
                      Last edited by labasta; February 05, 2009, 10:06 AM.

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                      • #26
                        Re: Car bombing comes to America

                        Originally posted by labasta View Post
                        Three world wars reminds of something tinfoil hatish. (i.e. no proof whatsoever)

                        Found it. Good ol' Albert Pike.

                        http://www.threeworldwars.com/albert-pike2.htm
                        interesting site. hard to argue with this comment left by a reader there... 'Maybe, people would take a look at what you say without laughing if you did not use so much bigoted rhetoric. - WH'

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