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  • WSJ rips Schiff a new one!

    headline in classic mega style.

    Right Forecast by Schiff, Wrong Plan?

    Peter Schiff predicted a collapse of the U.S. financial system. The bust-up he didn't foresee was the one that made mincemeat of investors who took his advice in 2008.

    Mr. Schiff's Darien, Conn., broker-dealer firm, Euro Pacific Capital Inc., advised its clients to bet that the dollar would weaken significantly and that foreign stocks would outpace their U.S. peers. Instead, the dollar advanced against most currencies, magnifying the losses from foreign stocks Mr. Schiff steered his investors into.

    Investors open accounts at Euro Pacific to take advantage of Mr. Schiff's investment advice, which generally involves shunning investments in dollars. Individual returns can vary. Some investors may like gold-mining stocks, while others prefer energy-focused stocks.

    Most had one thing in common last year: heavy losses. A number of investors said their Euro Pacific portfolios lost 50% or more in 2008, worse than the 38% drop in the Standard & Poor's 500-stock index last year. People familiar with the firm say that hardly any securities recommended by Euro Pacific brokers gained ground in 2008.
    Last edited by metalman; January 30, 2009, 03:40 PM.

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    Re: WSJ rips Schiff a new one!

    Originally posted by metalman View Post
    subscription required and i don't have one...
    Don't be silly.

    first 'trick' worked for this one. i just opened up the full article through google news.

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    • #3
      Re: WSJ rips Schiff a new one!

      What was the Wall Street Urinal predicting ?

      Were Schiff'S clients not in gold ? What was his advise regarding gold?

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        Re: WSJ rips Schiff a new one!

        Difficult to say. Schiff definitely talked up gold for years, and his firm had some nifty ways to access gold (Perth Mint, etc.), but unless you specifically asked for that exposure clients may have been directed entirely to stocks. His field offices, at least in my experience, were not functioning as full service money managers. If you walked in half asleep you walked out with 100% stocks.

        I summed up my EuroPac experience on the other Schiff thread that is currently on the site:
        http://www.itulip.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7696

        I posted my exact EuroPac portfolio on this thread:
        http://www.itulip.com/forums/showthr...2795#post72795
        Last edited by bradzepfan; January 30, 2009, 04:33 PM.

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        • #5
          Re: WSJ rips Schiff a new one!

          Nice to see someone callin Schiff out for a change...

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            Re: WSJ rips Schiff a new one!

            Originally posted by doom&gloom View Post
            Nice to see someone callin Schiff out for a change...
            I have one friend who met Schiff and I asked him what he was like. "Too much Red Bull" was his comment. One thing Schiff was advising when I decided not to go with him in Spring 08 was platinum, and we all know what happened to platinum in the second half of last year. This market demands flexibility and Schiff does not have it, not at all.
            Cowards die many times before their deaths; the valiant never taste of death but once.

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            • #7
              Re: WSJ rips Schiff a new one!

              Where's MEGA?

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              • #8
                Re: WSJ rips Schiff a new one!

                Originally posted by Basil View Post
                This market demands flexibility and Schiff does not have it, not at all.
                Pithy summation.

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