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    From Seeking Alpha.

    Late 2008’s stock panic has certainly had a complex and multifaceted impact on popular psychology. Mindsets and outlooks that were scoffed at as recently as 6 months ago have suddenly become fashionable. One of the more intriguing is the meteoric rise to prominence of the deflation thesis.

    The growing legions of deflationists see an unstoppable depression-like deflationary spiral approaching like a freight train. They cite some convincing data. The stock markets have been cut in half in just a year. In the past 6 months, some key commodities prices fell farther and faster than they did in the entire Great Depression. House prices are down by double digits across the nation, with no bottom in sight. And credit is a lot harder to come by today than in any other time in modern memory.

    In light of these universal falling prices, how could we not be entering a sustained deflationary period? The case may seem airtight, but I’d like to offer a contrarian view in this essay. Believe it or not, despite 2008’s price collapse there is plenty of overlooked evidence suggesting big inflation is coming. You won’t hear much about this on CNBC, but it could have a big impact on your investments in the years ahead.

    Inflation and deflation are purely monetary phenomena. Inflation is not just a rise in prices, lots of things can drive prices higher. Inflation is the very specific case of a rise in general price levels driven by an increasing money supply. If the money in an economy grows at a faster rate than the pool of goods and services on which to spend it, general prices are bid higher as a result. Only money creates inflation.

    Consider this example. You live in a small town in rural Texas with 10k people and 3k houses. A small local explorer discovers a gigantic new oilfield, an elephant. Within months your town’s population swells to 20k as a major oil company partners with the explorer to start developing the find. House prices skyrocket as 20k people compete for only 3k houses. Is this inflation? No, it is pure supply and demand. Its driver was not monetary in nature.
    Similarly deflation is not just falling prices, but falling prices driven by a contraction in the money supply. It is true that most modern economists would add contracting credit to this definition as well, but money is very different from credit. Would you rather receive a gift of $100k cash or a new $100k credit line? While you can spend both, money is very different from credit, which is short-term debt.

    Carrying the Texas town illustration farther, imagine oil prices fall by 90% in the years after the big discovery. The oilfield work dries up and there is a mass exodus of people. House prices collapse. Is this deflation? Of course not, it is pure supply and demand as well. Lower local demand for houses drove down prices, not a contraction in the greater money supply. This distinction is very important to keep in mind.

    We witnessed a stock panic in late 2008, an exceedingly rare event. The dictionary definition of this is “a sudden widespread fear concerning financial affairs leading to credit contraction and widespread sale of securities at depressed prices in an effort to acquire cash.” Panics are bubbles in fear which drive investors to liquidate everything they can at any price. They get so scared they only want to hold cash.

    When all investment assets are sold heavily in a short period of time, prices naturally collapse. But this is not deflation if it is not driven by a contraction in the money supply. For stocks, commodities, and houses, prices fell sharply in the second half of 2008 because there was a sudden huge oversupply relative to demand. Many more investors wanted out than wanted in, so prices plunged. They had to fall until a new equilibrium was reached, low enough to retard supply (investors too disgusted to sell anymore) and raise demand (from other bargain-hunting investors).

    Now the deflation argument is strongest for houses because most buyers borrow to buy houses. So the stock panic’s impact on credit availability definitely hurt the housing market. But the degree of impact is debatable. Sure, borrowers needed to be more creditworthy and put more cash down in late 2008 than in 2006. But the stock panic scared people so much that they may have slowed house purchases anyway even if banks were begging to give them easy loans like in 2006. Panics breed extreme economic fear, and extreme economic fear greatly slows big purchases no matter how easily they could be made.

    Acknowledging that debt-financed house prices are a special case that may indeed be deflationary (contraction of credit), I am focusing on stocks and commodities in this essay. From October 2007 to November 2008, the flagship S&P 500 stock index plunged 51.9%. About 4/7ths of these losses snowballed in just 9 weeks during the stock panic. From July 2008 to December 2008, the flagship Continuous Commodity Index plummeted 46.7%. Almost half of this mushroomed during the stock panic.

    Deflationists argue these price drops are proof of deflation, and most people today believe this. But they are only deflationary if they were driven by a contraction in the money supply. Stocks and commodities are generally cash markets. Credit such as stock margin can be used, but it is trivial relative to the market sizes. And real commodities purchased for industrial uses are paid for in cash or near-cash (short-term trade loans), not multi-decade loans like houses. So the money supply during 2008’s slides is the key.

    If available money to spend indeed contracted, then the deflationists are right about seeing deflation in 2008. But if the money supply fell by less than stocks and commodities plunged, was flat, or even grew, then deflationists are wrong. When prices fall simply because demand declines (too much fear to buy anything immediately), this is merely supply and demand. If money didn’t drive it, then it isn’t deflation.

    Rest Here.

    http://seekingalpha.com/article/1162...pular_articles
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    Re: Evidence That Big inflation is Coming

    Isn't this the itulip thesis in so many words?

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    • #3
      Re: Evidence That Big inflation is Coming

      Originally posted by due_indigence View Post
      Isn't this the itulip thesis in so many words?
      sign, yes... as usual... without attribution... Fed cuts dollar, Fire sales vs FIRE sales, Duh-flation, and Bezzle shrinks again

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      • #4
        Re: Evidence That Big inflation is Coming

        Okay ... I'll be the dumb contrarian here ... I think the itulip analysis is better than anything else I read BUT ...
        DEFLATION ... you can call it BOB or BLUE or ANTI POOM or whatever but my observations are these ..

        THE CENTRAL BANKS LEAD THE PANIC not the investor and not even the subprime "trigger"...they, in concert with governments around the world have stepped in to prevent SOMETHING not only by TRYING to create more money but with arbitrary (with respect to the market) shifts in rules to prevent this SOMETHING.
        That SOMETHING is money destructrion. Whether the destruction is because it is frozen in dead branches of the tree such as LEHMAN or in the irrational infinite regression of credit default swaps it is being destroyed.

        Gold may be the only game in town soon but it may not because of an inflation surge. It may be that there is no other game in "town" or the "globe" in this case. It may becase nothing else will hold any validity. Calling that inflation is also a misnomer.

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        • #5
          Re: Evidence That Big inflation is Coming

          Originally posted by sunskyfan View Post
          Okay ... I'll be the dumb contrarian here ... I think the itulip analysis is better than anything else I read BUT ...
          DEFLATION ... you can call it BOB or BLUE or ANTI POOM or whatever but my observations are these ..

          THE CENTRAL BANKS LEAD THE PANIC not the investor and not even the subprime "trigger"...they, in concert with governments around the world have stepped in to prevent SOMETHING not only by TRYING to create more money but with arbitrary (with respect to the market) shifts in rules to prevent this SOMETHING.
          That SOMETHING is money destructrion. Whether the destruction is because it is frozen in dead branches of the tree such as LEHMAN or in the irrational infinite regression of credit default swaps it is being destroyed.

          Gold may be the only game in town soon but it may not because of an inflation surge. It may be that there is no other game in "town" or the "globe" in this case. It may becase nothing else will hold any validity. Calling that inflation is also a misnomer.
          the itulip idea is that all currencies depreciate against debt and commodities... monetize debt, weaken the currency, then inflation... gold indicates FUTURE inflation. once inflation is here and running long enough to deflate the debt, gov't will raise rates and kill inflation, and gold will lead again.

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          • #6
            Re: Evidence That Big inflation is Coming

            Adam Hamilton has been making these arguments for a long time:

            http://www.gold-eagle.com/research/h...dx.html?page=1

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            • #7
              Re: Evidence That Big inflation is Coming

              Understood .. I think maybe that there is a "moneterization of the debt" may be the incorrect description of what is going on. There is too much "debt/credit" to moneterize and they now realize this. Is it time to consider that there is something else going on?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by due_indigence View Post
                Isn't this the itulip thesis in so many words?
                I was reminded by that

                Even though it is perpetually understated, the CPI still makes a mockery of the deflationists’ arguments on the recent sharp stocks and commodities declines. Since October 2007, the CPI has averaged 3.9% annual growth. It peaked at a very inflationary 5.6% year-over-year in July 2008 as commodities prices topped. While it did plunge in the panic, it was still positive throughout the whole thing. 4.9% YoY in September, 3.7% in October, 1.1% in November, and 0.1% in December.

                Per the CPI, the rate of headline inflation is slowing. This is not deflation. Deflation is shrinkage. Slowing yet still growing inflation is disinflation. They are very different beasts. The deflationists not only want to redefine deflation as falling prices independent of money, which is silly based on many centuries of history that defined it as purely monetary, but they have confused disinflation with deflation. They ought to buy some dictionaries to see what words really mean before they embarrass themselves further.

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                • #9
                  Re: Evidence That Big inflation is Coming

                  Well, I do still have one reservation here:

                  using the article's example of the $10,000 trade, which the new holder watches devalue to $5000.... at some point this new holder has to transfer the asset, or 'monetize' again. If that point comes while the asset is still worth less than $10,000, is not the 'money' supply now shrunk.... that is true money available to transfer hands? And if so, is not the reduction of credit/debt/asset value a deflationary force?

                  Put another way, the lost 'value' of housing, equities, and commodities is in fact 'gone', correct?: it is no longer available for 'monetization' by its (former) holders, either to buy goods, pay off debt, or switch assets. (If so, who is holding all those trillions of dollars of 'lost' value and in what form?)

                  Is this not a truly deflationary force or is this the 'line' between asset price deflation that has been discussed. Either way, does it matter? The net effect is that prices decline I presume.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Evidence That Big inflation is Coming

                    Originally posted by metalman View Post
                    Like most more-or-less correct ideas, the idea is not unique to one source.
                    It's Economics vs Thermodynamics. Thermodynamics wins.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Evidence That Big inflation is Coming

                      Originally posted by due_indigence View Post
                      Isn't this the itulip thesis in so many words?
                      Sure sounds like it.
                      Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. -Groucho

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                      • #12
                        Re: Evidence That Big inflation is Coming

                        Originally posted by cbr View Post
                        using the article's example of the $10,000 trade, which the new holder watches devalue to $5000.... at some point this new holder has to transfer the asset, or 'monetize' again. If that point comes while the asset is still worth less than $10,000, is not the 'money' supply now shrunk....
                        in iTulip parlance, this is "Fictitious value". It's clearly marked in the earliest charts I've seen from iTulip.

                        In your example, reduced FV may or may not reduce money supply.

                        iTulip has never quantified the relationship between fictitious value and money supply. There is some relationship, but it would be quite hard to quantify any specific stock or bond's reduced FV to reduced money supply.

                        Any such relationship probably depends on how much debt was written on top of the fictitious value, and that would depend on asset class, timeframe during which the debt was generated (low leverage times in the 80s, high leverage in 2005), etc ...

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                        • #13
                          Re: Evidence That Big inflation is Coming

                          >>>>this is "Fictitious value". It's clearly marked in the earliest charts I've seen from iTulip.

                          In your example, reduced FV may or may not reduce money supply.

                          iTulip has never quantified the relationship between fictitious value and money supply. There is some relationship, but it would be quite hard to quantify any specific stock or bond's reduced FV to reduced money supply.

                          Any such relationship probably depends on how much debt was written on top of the fictitious value, and that would depend on asset class, timeframe during which the debt was generated (low leverage times in the 80s, high leverage in 2005), etc ... >>>>


                          thanks, I do recall some description of that and will search back as well;

                          however, this looks like a big analysis gap on predicting a 'poom' occurrence (or a deflationary trend).

                          Any one stock, no way to determine impact and diminishing returns on doing so; however, if you have SOME idea of an aggregate Equity markets FV loss, macro real estate FV loss, etc., those really will, in my layman's mind, drive effective money supply by some multiple (maybe less than 1 but there must be an effect - my layman's guess is that it is quite significant).

                          It is not purely fictional: to the extent that in any one time period a subset of holders of FV 'perceives' his wealth is one thing; but that perception drives occasional liquidation events, the results of some of which DO (rather DID -- now much less) flow into the real economy. This average should be calculated in any effort to peg money supply for an inflation/deflation prediction.

                          I am not sure what to think now as I think this missing FV effect may be the prime determiner of the inflation/deflation debate.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Evidence That Big inflation is Coming

                            Originally posted by cbr View Post
                            I am not sure what to think now as I think this missing FV effect may be the prime determiner of the inflation/deflation debate.
                            Putting a number value on it is not needed, IMHO - coming within a country mile will be fine.

                            Knowing whether the number will be large enough to trigger Bernanke's reflexes is the important thing.

                            Besides, you're talking end-user assets. The fictitious values of these is NOTHING compared to the derivatives written on top of them. The face value of swaps on GM bonds were easily worth 100 TIMES the face value of the bonds themselves.


                            In my engineering classes the value of the actual GM bonds would have been crossed out as "insignificant" in a first-pass analysis.

                            You see the identical thing in subprime. the value (do a summation, Σ(across the whole industry) ) of the actual defaults themselves have been miniscule. It's the derivatives that have caused the major problems to date.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Evidence That Big inflation is Coming

                              I'm not sure I follow. Let me make this concrete and someone can point out my misunderstanding. I'm sure it is basic.

                              Participants:
                              A - Has stock
                              B - Has $10,000
                              C - Has $5,000

                              1) The buyer B pays A $10,000 for stock
                              2) Stock drops in value to $5,000
                              3) B sells the stock to C for $5,000

                              A - Has $10,000
                              B - Has $5,000
                              C - Has stock

                              The total amount of money in the system didn't change, so no deflation even though the price of the stock dropped by 50% and B lost a bunch of money.

                              Now, through any type of 'insurance' into the system and you can blow up nicely as the amount the insurance may pay out (on paper) could dwarf the money supply. Allow people to start trading the insurance itself like a currency and you have something even more deceptive as people start trading 'real' money/value for something that can't exist; it can only pay out to the extent the seller actually has money/value.

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