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    http://www.news.com.au/business/stor...46-462,00.html

    Gold rush erupts over financial crisis By Nick Gardner

    The Daily Telegraph

    January 10, 2009 12:01am

    * Record rush on gold in Australia
    * Investors convinced gold's a safe haven
    * Only time will tell if it is

    THE global financial crisis has sparked a new gold rush.

    Worried investors seeking a safe home for their money are ploughing billions of dollars into the precious metal in a bid to preserve their wealth, The Daily Telegraph reports.

    Demand has now reached such unprecedented levels that the Perth Mint, Australia's biggest wholesaler of gold coins and bars, has been forced to ration its sales.

    Perth Mint's bullion sales rose 194 per cent in the December quarter compared with the corresponding period in 2007, while silver bullion sales were up 140 per cent.

    The mint has suspended sales of all gold bars and all bullion coins - except its 1oz "Kangaroo" gold bullion coin.

    On Monday, after a three-month suspension, it will expand its range of bullion coins for sale but the restrictions remain in place for minted gold bullion bars so the mint can sell some gold to as many customers as possible.

    "We are working three shifts a day, six days a week, and still can't keep up with demand," Perth Mint CEO Ed Harbuz said. "I've never known anything like this in the precious metals market.

    "We would be working Sundays too but we are having difficulty getting enough staff."

    Non-minted gold in the form of cast bars produced by Perth Mint's local refinery can still be bought, although customers who want the bigger bars often have to wait several weeks.

    One customer recently bought $500,000 worth of bullion and wanted it delivered so he could hold it personally.

    "For very big orders we normally keep the gold in our depository for security reasons," Mr Harbuz said.


    "Orders of $10 million or more are not unusual. Often the orders are much larger if we are dealing with pension funds or institutional investors."
    Yeah, sure it is your Gold, but you can't have it, we will keep it safe for you! ha ha ha

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    Re: Gold rush erupts over financial crisis

    National Geographic has a nice article on Gold this month. The price rise is causing desperate people around the world to do desperate things to scratch out a living. Indentured servitude, mercury poisoning, and local environmental devastation are all part of getting that gold eagle. According to the U.N. the 10-15 million artisanal minors that work this way produce 25% of the worlds gold.

    It takes a life boat mentality to survive in today's world, what will it take tomorrow?

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      Re: Gold rush erupts over financial crisis

      Originally posted by we_are_toast View Post
      National Geographic has a nice article on Gold this month. The price rise is causing desperate people around the world to do desperate things to scratch out a living. Indentured servitude, mercury poisoning, and local environmental devastation are all part of getting that gold eagle. According to the U.N. the 10-15 million artisanal minors that work this way produce 25% of the worlds gold.

      It takes a life boat mentality to survive in today's world, what will it take tomorrow?
      The price rise might be amplifying the amount of artisanal mining [or maybe it's just bringing it to the attention of the National Geographics of this world?], but this is an activity that was going on in numerous gold provinces long before gold prices went up. After the collapse of the Soviet Union artisanal mining skyrocketed in the Central Asia republics as the "newly uneconomic" state mines closed down.

      You are absolutely right about the "life boat mentality"... a new discovery for most of us in the developed economies, but a long standing and depressingly familiar way of life for many elsewhere in the world.

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      • #4
        Re: Gold rush erupts over financial crisis

        So what happened to the "Big Event" on the COMEX in Dec. 2008 ? The boards were filled with predictions that gold would fly through the roof as a "huge" number would take physical delivery.

        Then ...... then nothing much.:p

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          Re: Gold rush erupts over financial crisis

          Thanks for bringing that up Shakespear... oddly enough the Internets haven't been filled with soul-searching articles about where their predictions went all pear shaped.

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          • #6
            Re: Gold rush erupts over financial crisis

            I can only guess/senses but I it seems to me that "some" are trying to drive the market in some direction ( a losing one ).

            In Dec. 2007 I think, Goldman-Sachs in their letter to their investors I think (check the Internet) that they saw gold price dropping to I think around $600 at the end of 2008. Everyone else was tooting their horns in the opposite direction. Well they were right.

            This time around I believe I saw something where GS are saying the price will go nowhere in 2009. Well majority before the end of 2008 kept seeing the price going higher.

            This last prediction by the tooters regarding Dec. again seems to have turn out wrong and what GS is saying may yet turn out to be right. Will see.

            What is my point? Well the loudest people on this subject of late have been wrong and the big money appears to be right. Does the big money know something the rest don't? :-)
            Last edited by Shakespear; January 10, 2009, 02:31 PM.

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              Re: Gold rush erupts over financial crisis

              Originally posted by WDCRob View Post
              Thanks for bringing that up Shakespear... oddly enough the Internets haven't been filled with soul-searching articles about where their predictions went all pear shaped.
              Don't be too smug, this ship doesn't turn on a dime.

              I hope you have taken adequate precautions to my detriment, since I would really enjoy fueling my aircraft with your corn. :cool:

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                Re: Gold rush erupts over financial crisis

                Originally posted by Shakespear View Post
                In Dec. 2007 I think, Goldman-Sachs in their letter to their investors I think (check the Internet) that they saw gold price dropping to I think around $600 at the end of 2008. Everyone else was tooting their horns in the opposite direction. Well they were right.
                Who was right, in your opinion, GS or everyone else?



                $865 is a little more than $600.

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                • #9
                  Re: Gold rush erupts over financial crisis

                  Show the whole graph for 2008.

                  If you were watching the game as it edged toward $650 there was no assurance that it would not go lower.

                  It is no where close to $1000 and beyond. I agree, wait and see. But when you are waiting and seeing a straight line down like with oil prices there is no conviction that it will revers anytime soon or where it will level off.

                  With oil people got caught with their pants down as it went Down, down from $120.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Gold rush erupts over financial crisis

                    Originally posted by Sapiens View Post
                    Don't be too smug, this ship doesn't turn on a dime.

                    I hope you have taken adequate precautions to my detriment, since I would really enjoy fueling my aircraft with your corn. :cool:
                    I was speaking specifically of the prediction that on December xx, 2008 COMEX would be busted.

                    A specific, detailed prediction that didn't happen and then was ignored like it had never been made.

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                      Re: Gold rush erupts over financial crisis

                      Originally posted by we_are_toast View Post
                      National Geographic has a nice article on Gold this month. The price rise is causing desperate people around the world to do desperate things to scratch out a living. Indentured servitude, mercury poisoning, and local environmental devastation are all part of getting that gold eagle. According to the U.N. the 10-15 million artisanal minors that work this way produce 25% of the worlds gold.

                      It takes a life boat mentality to survive in today's world, what will it take tomorrow?
                      It happens everywhere if you want to believe her


                      Woman Sues Prison System

                      A former corrections officer sues the prison system, saying the employees and inmates are being poisoned to death.

                      Freda Cobb, 48, says she was one of hundreds exposed to toxic chemicals at the Federal Corrections Institute in Marianna. “My female organs had enlarged three times the size they were,” Cobb says. “Five weeks after my first surgery, my gallbladder was practically to burst.”

                      Fourteen years ago, the Federal Corrections Institute in Marianna began recycling obsolete computer parts from various government facilities.

                      “They (inmates) would bust the monitors from hammers to retrieve the gold out of it to send back to the Dell or Hewlett Packard companies because they have contracts with them to refurbish and reuse them in the new computers,” she says.

                      ...

                      http://www.panhandleparade.com/index...em/mbb7712472/

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                      • #12
                        Re: Gold rush erupts over financial crisis

                        Originally posted by WDCRob View Post
                        I was speaking specifically of the prediction that on December xx, 2008 COMEX would be busted.

                        A specific, detailed prediction that didn't happen and then was ignored like it had never been made.
                        There were enough people who debunked this thesis before December. Those with many years in the gold arena appeared to know that this was mostly talk, but that the probability is increasing.
                        Cowards die many times before their deaths; the valiant never taste of death but once.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Gold rush erupts over financial crisis

                          Originally posted by WDCRob View Post

                          A specific, detailed prediction that didn't happen and then was ignored like it had never been made.
                          A situation that is all too common in our financial markets. The talk on CNBC, Bloomberg etc., is almost to the point of comical. They continue to interview "strategists", "economists", "advisors" etc for their opinion on the direction of various markets and they are all happy to give it with. - But no one asks any of these "experts" about their predictions from last year and how the vast majority got it all wrong. There is no accountability ... only talk talk talk to fill the airwaves 24/7.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Gold rush erupts over financial crisis

                            Originally posted by vinoveri View Post
                            A situation that is all too common in our financial markets. The talk on CNBC, Bloomberg etc., is almost to the point of comical. They continue to interview "strategists", "economists", "advisors" etc for their opinion on the direction of various markets and they are all happy to give it with. - But no one asks any of these "experts" about their predictions from last year and how the vast majority got it all wrong. There is no accountability ... only talk talk talk to fill the airwaves 24/7.
                            I heard Max Keiser talk about it before Dec. and I saw a post on itulp recently

                            Comex fractional reserve delivery of gold ?
                            http://itulip.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7258

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