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  • mybudget360: 40% of the United States GDP comes from 5 States; CA, TX, NY, FL, IL.

    http://www.mybudget360.com/gross-dom...-and-illinois/

    Our gross domestic product contracted in the third quarter of 2008 and is contracting in the forth quarter. There is very little doubt surrounding that. The National Bureau of Economic Research put the start date of our current recession at December of 2007. Simply looking at the employment patterns and trends it appears that this recession will be the worst on record since World War II. Another reason why this recession will be so painful is that 40 percent of our national GDP comes from 5 states, many that are in painful contractions.

    The United States received 40 percent of its GDP from California, Texas, New York, Florida, and Illinois. California accounts for over 12 percent of national GDP and currently has a state unemployment rate of 8.2%, the third highest in the nation. If we dig deep and look at the California housing market, it is abysmal and shows no signs of bouncing back. This weekend 60 Minutes talked about the Alt-A and option ARM crisis that will hit us in the upcoming years. The 2 states with the largest concentration of these loans are California and Florida.
    First, let us take a look at each individual state GDP on a map:

    GDP states


    Looking at the map this way, it is easy to see why a few states can cause such widespread pain. Even states that avoided the housing bubble to a large extent are feeling the repercussions of what is going on. If we are to include the top 10 states in terms of GDP, we will then account for 55% of total U.S. GDP. That is why arguments that look at states as silos only hold true if the recession is minor or isolated. This is no isolated recession. The tentacles of the problems run deep and are very widespread. Let us now shift and look at unemployment on this map:

    unemployment rate

    3 out of the top 5 GDP states have unemployment rates above the 6.7% national rate. California, the biggest GDP contributor has an unemployment rate of 8.2%. The only state of the five that seems stable is Texas. New York is quickly jumping higher because of the job losses now hitting New York City this year. The number should change rapidly. Ironically, the only stable state Texas is the single state of the five that had very little influence this decade with the housing bubble. States like California and Florida which depended more on the housing market are feeling even deeper pain.

    The next map should give you an idea why many of these states are on the verge of bankruptcy:

    tax revenues states

    This above graph tells the story. A state like California is so enormously dependent on taxes. All you need to do is take a look at California and you’ll understand the magnitude of the problem:

    California revenues

    Expenditures

    A state like California with over $100 billion in expenses does not have the flexibility to adjust a budget on the fly. In fact, these budgets are planned nearly a year in advance. This budget was planned before the California housing market fell over 40% statewide. That is another reason why severe market volatility is not good for the health of the economy because it throws a wrench into future planning. But the more troubling sign is look at the 2 largest revenue sources for California. The personal income tax makes up 44.7% of revenue and sales tax makes up 27%. Together, these 2 volatile areas make up 71.7% of revenue to the state. Well, if you refer to the above employment chart you can begin to see how this all starts to tie in. With less employment, the personal income tax revenues will fall. With that, you will also see the sales tax decrease because in recessionary times, people spend less and certainly those with no employment will not be buying.

    In conclusion, the fact that many of these states still have profound problems in their housing markets almost assures us that this will be no minor recession. 5 states account for 40 percent of the U.S. GDP and some of the states have the worst housing bubbles which are still deflating signals to us that U.S. GDP is set to decline for the near future.
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    Re: mybudget360: 40% of the United States GDP comes from 5 States; CA, TX, NY, FL, IL.

    These are the top five states by population as well, totalling 36.24% of U.S. population. This is unsurprising and, I would argue, uninformative.

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      Re: mybudget360: 40% of the United States GDP comes from 5 States; CA, TX, NY, FL, IL.

      I think they're trying to get people who think they're in a safe state to think again. Could be informative.

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        Re: mybudget360: 40% of the United States GDP comes from 5 States; CA, TX, NY, FL, IL.

        Originally posted by marvenger View Post
        I think they're trying to get people who think they're in a safe state to think again. Could be informative.
        Could be, but it seems to me a bit of a beggar-thy-neighbor state vs. state argument.

        There's going to be a lot of fear-mongering and finger-pointing going on in the coming months, and TPTB are very good at getting poor people to turn against each other (the problem is California and Florida, why should we bail them out... I can hear it now).

        Maybe I'm just paranoid.

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          Re: mybudget360: 40% of the United States GDP comes from 5 States; CA, TX, NY, FL, IL.

          Originally posted by bpr View Post
          Could be, but it seems to me a bit of a beggar-thy-neighbor state vs. state argument.

          There's going to be a lot of fear-mongering and finger-pointing going on in the coming months, and TPTB are very good at getting poor people to turn against each other (the problem is California and Florida, why should we bail them out... I can hear it now).

          Maybe I'm just paranoid.
          I've already heard it and I live in California! Started with the Housing bubble mantra: "Did you know only a handful of states have most of the housing problems?" :eek:...

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            Re: mybudget360: 40% of the United States GDP comes from 5 States; CA, TX, NY, FL, IL.

            From New York State Comptroller Dinapoli's recent report:

            Tax collections (personal income and business taxes) from Wall Street-related activities could drop by $4.5 billion for New York State and $2 billion for New York City by 2010. Wall Street activity generates a disproportionate share of State and City tax revenue because of high levels of compensation, profitability and capital gains.

            Wall Street-related activities account for 12 percent of New York City tax revenues and up to 20 percent of New York State revenues. Prior to the current crisis, the securities industry accounted for five percent of the City’s employment but nearly 25 percent of the wages.

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            • #7
              Re: mybudget360: 40% of the United States GDP comes from 5 States; CA, TX, NY, FL, IL.

              Texas should soon join its brothers in the big 5. Like New Mexico and Oklahoma, high oil and gas prices have kept these states above the fray. That's currently changing fast now that oil is under $50 and natural gas under $6. The shortfalls are baked in for all three. Locally we're now dealing with state based income shortfalls due to energy and local tourism taxes that are down over 30%. Next will come the layoffs. It looks like a long year.

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