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  • #16
    Re: Madoff scheme hits (his) home-Marketwatch columnist

    Originally posted by metalman View Post
    all these wiped out rich people. in away, i'm sad. in a way, i laugh.
    metal, I didn't know you were into haiku?

    I, too, think this is tip of the iceberg. Reports say that various hedge funds have frozen $250B in client's assets. The hedge funds say it is because there is no market to sell into. There are always buyers, so what the hedgies are really saying is they don't want to sell at a significant loss, hoping against hope, the markets will bounce back That, or like Madoff, the money was never really there.

    Either way, the money is gone and there will be some significantly wealthy people finding themselves in a very different situation.

    In South Florida, we have a lot of trophy properties. They have been appearing on the market in increasing numbers lately but the owners have not been discounting them in the assumption they don't need the money and are unwilling to sell at what they view as discounted prices. I expect to see those trophies begin discounting now. (Probably the same in Boca Raton, Palm Beach, Greenwich, the Vineyard and the Hamptons)

    I expect to see an increasing backlash against the wealthy here in the US. Up and down the entire social hierarchy. Against the well off unions (IAM), against the billionaires, really against anyone who was formerly better off than oneself.

    No guillotines in the street of course, but a very healthy dose of schadenfreude.
    Last edited by BiscayneSunrise; December 16, 2008, 06:25 AM.
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    • #17
      Re: Madoff scheme hits (his) home-Marketwatch columnist

      Originally posted by Shakespear View Post
      Some excellent comments found here

      http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2008/12...-smells-funny/

      and then this little gem from Harvard

      http://www.cid.harvard.edu/cidpublic...ter_051130.pdf

      :mad:
      That harvard piece is so perfect for the times. What a joke. I guess these writers can now revisit this dark matter and see just how stable the underlying assets are! hahaha

      Anything invented in the Ivy league should be inspected by the Big10 before considered safe for trial use.;)

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      • #18
        Re: Madoff scheme hits (his) home-Marketwatch columnist

        Originally posted by kingcopper View Post

        Anything invented in the Ivy league should be inspected by the Big10 before considered safe for trial use.;)
        Reminds me of the old saying "Yale men watch over the country, Fordham men watch over the Yale men"
        Greg

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        • #19
          Re: Madoff scheme hits (his) home-Marketwatch columnist

          Originally posted by BiscayneSunrise View Post
          Reminds me of the old saying "Yale men watch over the country, Fordham men watch over the Yale men"
          You ever watch Santelli and Liesman argue on CNBC in the morning? Santelli reminds me of the hard ass Chicago guy and Liesman reminds me of the well educated but brainwashed Yale yesman.

          Santelli wins the argument every time and its quite comical.

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          • #20
            Re: Madoff scheme hits (his) home-Marketwatch columnist

            Here you can hear Mr. Madoff spin his yarn,

            http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Gclja-C2sOU


            He explains that it is impossible to break SEC rules and talks about why his office is so small.

            He even says that he would not hire MIT grads as "They think too much" while his man next to him (Josh) squirms in his seat. Josh built the Madoff software system !!!
            Last edited by Shakespear; December 16, 2008, 08:47 AM.

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            • #21
              Re: Madoff scheme hits (his) home-Marketwatch columnist

              I guess the Harvard "Dark Matter" was the leveraged money -- that which is now being sucked into the "Black Hole"

              I suppose the researchers were not aware of the vast increases in leveraging made possible with the repeal of the Glass-Stegal act, They identified the visible conundrum, but went way off base in identifying the cause!

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              • #22
                Re: Madoff scheme hits (his) home-Marketwatch columnist

                Originally posted by kingcopper View Post
                You ever watch Santelli and Liesman argue on CNBC in the morning? Santelli reminds me of the hard ass Chicago guy and Liesman reminds me of the well educated but brainwashed Yale yesman.

                Santelli wins the argument every time and its quite comical.
                Dr. John and Fat Tony, in the flesh.
                Greg

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