Commies: Who caused the great crash of 2008?

[due_indigence]

Re: Commies: Who caused the great crash of 2008?

Absolutely. Ezra Pound was a prophet. That's why they put him in a cage and then later an asylum. Usury --later 'refined' by Gordon Gecko into the 'greed is good ethos'. Such chutzpah. Two thousand years of Judeo-Christian ethics washed away in a blur of debt and fractional alchemy.

The 'prosperity' was a Faustian bargain stacked on a Ponzi scheme: we will become masters of the universe and you tenants can become king of your own castle.

So you have an obscenely wealthy banking class...hey they raised all boats for awhile didn't they? When your great great great grandfather was a serf, Rothschild owned kings like chess pieces. The bankers invented affluence and Everyman's leisure time.

[c1ue]

Re: Commies: Who caused the great crash of 2008?

Translation: It's all our fault. Hitler, Tojo, Lenin/Stalin, etc, would never have existed if we didn't create them, WWII was a big set-up (Illuminati? The Joos?), and "true" communism has never really been practiced. Yada, yada, yada.

Again you resort to denigration rather than thought.

The US froze all Japanese assets in the United States BEFORE Pearl Harbor, and conducted an oil embargo also BEFORE Pearl Harbor.

Sure, there was a good reason - the US didn't want Japan absorbing China despite massive military aid to Chiang Kai Shek.

But again it is stupid to somehow say that similarly the US was the innocent in the whole affair.

As for Communism - the US didn't have anything to do with that. The revolution happened because of WW I, but the prosecution of WW I was a European deal. Merely one which the US took advantage of to supply massive amounts of arms and money to the Allied side.

But certainly Stalin's grip on power wasn't weakened by all those free US motors for Russian tanks, as well as various other arms.

Historians are, however, in complete agreement that the crushing burden of the Versailles treaty concluding WW I led directly to the conditions which gave rise to Hitler.

And why was the Versailles treaty so punitive? Because both Britain and France were too empoverished to easily repay the US war debt - something which in the past would have been forgiven by members of the same side - and thus added significant extra burden onto Germany.

The US also intervened more directly - the German 'economic miracle' was actually a first run of the same policies which ruined much of Latin America; led to a default in Russia, and is being played out in Eastern Europe as we speak.

So, please continue to munch your apple pie, be nice to Mom, and pledge blind allegiance to the flag.

[D-Mack]

Re: Commies: Who caused the great crash of 2008?

Translation: It's all our fault. Hitler, Tojo, Lenin/Stalin, etc, would never have existed if we didn't create them, WWII was a big set-up (Illuminati? The Joos?), and "true" communism has never really been practiced. Yada, yada, yada.

I think it's more like financing a revolution to create the outcome you prefer to the current status quo. But I haven't checked if the news quoted here are reproduced correctly



Is it unthinkable that things like the rose or orange revolution have been done before with NGO's?

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THOMPSON GIVES THE BOLSHEVIKS $1 MILLION

Of greater historical significance, however, was the assistance given to the Bolsheviks first by Thompson, then, after December 4, 1917, by Raymond Robins.

Thompson's contribution to the Bolshevik cause was recorded in the contemporary American press. The Washington Post of February 2, 1918, carried the following paragraphs:

GIVES BOLSHEVIKI A MILLION

W. B. Thompson, Red Cross Donor, Believes Party Misrepresented. New York, Feb. 2 (1918). William B. Thompson, who was in Petrograd from July until November last, has made a personal contribution of $1,000,000 to the Bolsheviki for the purpose of spreading their doctrine in Germany and Austria.

Mr. Thompson had an opportunity to study Russian conditions as head of the American Red Cross Mission, expenses of which also were largely defrayed by his personal contributions. He believes that the Bolsheviki constitute the greatest power against Pro-Germanism in Russia and that their propaganda has been undermining the militarist regimes of the General Empires.

Mr. Thompson deprecates American criticism of the Bolsheviki. He believes they have been misrepresented and has made the financial contribution to the cause in the belief that it will be money well spent for the future of Russia as well as for the Allied cause.

Hermann Hagedorn's biography The Magnate: William Boyce Thompson and His Time (1869-1930) reproduces a photograph of a cablegram from J.P. Morgan in New York to W. B. Thompson, "Care American Red Cross, Hotel Europe, Petrograd." The cable is date-stamped, showing it was received at Petrograd "8-Dek 1917" (8 December 1917), and reads:

New York Y757/5 24W5 Nil — Your cable second received. We have paid National City Bank one million dollars as instructed — Morgan.

The National City Bank branch in Petrograd had been exempted from the Bolshevik nationalization decree — the only foreign or domestic Russian bank to have been so exempted. Hagedorn says that this million dollars paid into Thompson's NCB account was used for "political purposes."
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