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    Thins one is special for metalman who is probably still "watching keenly" all those T-auctions....

    http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/mone...treet-kee.html
    Wall Street keeps wondering how low interest rates can go on Treasury securities. Now we find out that even zero may not be low enough.
    The annualized yield on three-month T-bills dipped slightly below zero at one point today, to negative 0.01%, according to Bloomberg News data. In effect, a negative yield means some investors are so hungry for Treasuries that they’re willing to pay more for a security than they’ll get back when it matures, and earn no interest while they hold it.
    The last time short-term Treasury yields were negative was during the late 1930s and early 1940s, according to the authoritative book "A History of Interest Rates," by Sidney Homer and Richard Sylla.
    The negative rates today were in the so-called secondary market, where investors trade with each other. The Treasury hasn’t yet auctioned T-bills at a negative rate, but it got close this morning: The government sold $30 billion in new four-week T-bills at exactly zero -- 0.000%, according to the Treasury’s report on the sale.
    "We were all watching it agog today," said Steve Meyerhardt, a Treasury spokesman in Washington




    And a few more details:

    http://www.rttnews.com/ArticleView.aspx?Id=797720

    The U.S. Treasury Department revealed that it sold $30 billion of the 4-week bills, with the auction receiving a yield of zero percent. The bid-to-cover ratio, a measure of demand for the securities, came in at 4.20.
    [...]
    On Monday, the U.S. Treasury Department announced Monday that it auctioned $27 billion of 26-week bills, which drew a stop-out rate of 0.300 percent and a bid-to-cover ratio of 2.63. An auction of $27 billion of 13-week bills drew a stop-out rate of 0.005 percent and a bid-to-cover ratio of 3.33.

    Last week, the government sold $36 billion worth of 4-week bills. That auction received a stop-out rate of 0.040 percent and a bid-to-cover ratio of 3.16.
    Keep on watching keenly metalman ......

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    Re: Treasuries - zero yields

    "Mr. Blutarsky... zero point zero!"

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    • #3
      Re: Treasuries - zero yields

      Originally posted by $#* View Post
      Thins one is special for metalman who is probably still "watching keenly" all those T-auctions....

      http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/mone...treet-kee.html






      And a few more details:

      http://www.rttnews.com/ArticleView.aspx?Id=797720



      Keep on watching keenly metalman ......
      Who said the era of "free money" was over...:rolleyes:

      Somebody should tell Hank and Ben to use this opportunity to make the US T-bill market Sharia compliant. The US government will never have to pay interest ever again.

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      • #4
        Re: Treasuries - zero yields

        So, I could give the Treasury my money to hold for a month and get nothing in return, or keep it in my closet for a month and get nothing in return?
        Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. -Groucho

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        • #5
          Re: Treasuries - zero yields

          If you have a whole lot of money (ie more than is fdic insured), a zero percent beats your bank failing and potentially losing money.

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          • #6
            Re: Treasuries - zero yields

            Originally posted by BrianL View Post
            If you have a whole lot of money (ie more than is fdic insured), a zero percent beats your bank failing and potentially losing money.
            if you keep your money in a non-interest bearing account you get unlimited protection from the FDIC (provided the bank is joined the program described below). so if the bank does fail you'll only have to deal with the hassle of getting your back, not the risk that you won't get your money back...

            This is valid through December 2009 under the FDIC's Temporary Liquidity Guarantee Program (TLGP)

            http://www.fdic.gov/news/news/financ...fil08102a.html

            if you have a lot of money you have a lot of options for 0% guaranteed yields!

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            • #7
              Re: Treasuries - zero yields

              It was BEELOW ZERO:
              http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/c0c68a98-c...077b07658.html

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              • #8
                Re: Treasuries - zero yields

                Originally posted by Master Shake View Post
                So, I could give the Treasury my money to hold for a month and get nothing in return, or keep it in my closet for a month and get nothing in return?
                Actually it's gonna cost you $25 per $1 million for that honor of lending them your money. Do the patriotic thing and give them your money. ;)

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                • #9
                  Re: Treasuries - zero yields

                  That money is going to leave eventually and is a big indication for a coming equity and commodity rally of unprecedented proportions IMHO.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Treasuries - zero yields

                    Originally posted by Tulpen View Post
                    That money is going to leave eventually and is a big indication for a coming equity and commodity rally of unprecedented proportions IMHO.
                    Spot on Tulpen.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Treasuries - zero yields

                      Originally posted by jayers4647 View Post
                      "Mr. Blutarsky... zero point zero!"
                      haha, they use that on the howard stern show its great...

                      how fast will the fall of treasuries be???

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                      • #12
                        Re: Treasuries - zero yields

                        Originally posted by tsetsefly View Post
                        haha, they use that on the howard stern show its great...

                        how fast will the fall of treasuries be???
                        I'd let you pull the block out if I get to scream "JENGA";)

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                        • #13
                          Re: Treasuries - zero yields

                          Originally posted by $#* View Post
                          The Treasury hasn’t yet auctioned T-bills at a negative rate
                          According to NPR today, the Treasury will not (or cannot?) auction T-bills at negative rates; rates can only go negative on the secondary market.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Treasuries - zero yields

                            Timing this one is Russian roulette. The Fed can just keep on buying, pushing yields down as low as they want.

                            Remember, those with their eyes open expected the housing bubble to pop in '06, but we had a solid year before the Bear Stearns CDOs collapsed and an additional two years of zero-down ARMs to go.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Treasuries - zero yields

                              The Treasury bond bubble can go on so long as their is more of the ladder to climb.

                              30 year rates still have plenty of space in them.

                              But I think I see a light at the end of this tunnel, and it is a train.

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