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    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...l-experts.html
    Mike

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    there is no way the government will allow Citi to fail and cause the problems that Bear did. I expect the FDIC to step in shortly.
    RanMan :cool:

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    • #3
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      Welcome to AmBank (Citi), AmInsure (AIG), AmMortgage (Fannie/Freddie), AmCar (GM, Ford and Chrysler) and people have the nerve to criticize the miniscule Amtrak?

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      • #4
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        Tell me if this disaster scenario sounds familiar....

        CEO says "rumormongoring" and short-selling responsible for sharp price decline.

        Mike Mayo issues support of stock at price double its current levels.

        Dick Bove sees no reason for company to go bankrupt.

        With that said, don't see Citi failing and if it does, gold will be worth so much, don't think most Itulipers will care.

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          Originally posted by GeraldRiggs View Post
          there is no way the government will allow Citi to fail and cause the problems that Bear did. I expect the FDIC to step in shortly.
          How's the FDIC going to save Citi? They can organize some sort of forced merger [do you thing Pandit will do anything like that voluntarily?], or they can organize an orderly liquidation of the assets while protecting depositors, but the FDIC would not appear to have any way to save Citi intact.

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            Originally posted by GRG55 View Post
            How's the FDIC going to save Citi? They can organize some sort of forced merger [do you thing Pandit will do anything like that voluntarily?], or they can organize an orderly liquidation of the assets while protecting depositors, but the FDIC would not appear to have any way to save Citi intact.
            JP Morgan and Citigroup to be nationalized by Q2 2009 (Rumor) Oct. 31, 2008
            Ed.

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            • #7
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              Before this is over the list of financial sector companies that have not been nationalized will be much easier to remember and recite.

              Nevertheless, even the inevitable nationalization of Citi is unlikely to keep it intact, and, further, I doubt very much the FDIC will be the primary regulator that oversees the newly nationalized banks. Any nationalization will be the perfect opportunity for the new Administration to be seen to be "doing something", and the opportunity to set up some sort of new "Super regulator" for the financial sector would seem too good to pass up.

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              • #8
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                Originally posted by GRG55 View Post
                Before this is over the list of financial sector companies that have not been nationalized will be much easier to remember and recite...
                Community Bank of Loganville, Georgia, Shut by State Regulator

                By Ari Levy
                Nov. 22 (Bloomberg) -- Community Bank of Loganville, Georgia, was closed by a state regulator, the 20th U.S. bank seized this year as foreclosures rise and home prices extend declines in the worst housing slump since the Great Depression.

                Bank of Essex in Tappahannock, Virginia, will take over all of the $611.4 million of deposits from Community Bank, the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. said yesterday in an e-mailed statement...




                U.S. Bancorp Acquires Downey Savings and PFF Bank

                By Finbarr Flynn
                Nov. 22 (Bloomberg) -- U.S. Bancorp has acquired the operations of Downey Savings & Loan Association, F.A. and PFF Bank & Trust from the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation.

                U.S. Bancorp’s main unit acquired assets and liabilities of the two California-based financial institutions, the Minneapolis- based lender said in a statement. The bank won’t buy assets or liabilities of their parent holding companies, it said in the statement.

                Downey and PFF, respectively the 23rd and 38th largest U.S. thrifts, were closed by regulators yesterday, the Office of Thrift Supervision said in a statement...

                ...The FDIC said in a statement that it estimated the cost to the Deposit Insurance Fund for may total as much as $1.4 billion for Downey and $700 million for PFF Bank.
                Downey appears to be the third largest thrift to fail this year after WaMu and IndyMac.

                So how much longer before the FDIC runs out of banks into which to put these failed institutions? And money to cover the depositor losses? Anything to avoid those lineups on the sidewalk, eh.

                Seems the strategy now is the create more "too big to fail" banks that then have to be formally nationalized by Treasury...

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                  They won't make 2ND Q Fred!
                  Mike

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                  • #10
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                    There is some anecdotal evidence that JP Morgan acts as an arm of FED policy. Rob Kirby has done some reporting on this as referenced below. In effect, JP Morgan is already "nationalized", we just haven't seen the paperwork.




                    http://www.financialsense.com/Market...2008/0728.html

                    http://www.financialsense.com/Market...2007/0813.html

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                    • #11
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                      Originally posted by GRG55 View Post
                      So how much longer before the FDIC runs out of banks into which to put these failed institutions? And money to cover the depositor losses?


                      Good question,
                      Produce new banks.http://www.itulip.com/forums/showthr...62227#poststop
                      Nov. 21 (Bloomberg) -- A U.S. bank regulator is prepared to offer private-equity firms and other investors a national bank charter
                      My question, where is capital source coming from if not TARP?
                      What PE firms and other investors?
                      PE capital source?

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                      • #12
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                        CNBC in Europe is talking about a nationalization in the coming days!

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                        • #13
                          Citi to make a "Bad Bank"

                          I thought they already were a bad bank:-
                          http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122747680752551447.html
                          Mike

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                            Oh, I see getting my posts moved.....the High Hand power lurks here...............!

                            Citi are TOAST!
                            http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7744814.stm
                            Mike

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                              Originally posted by Mega View Post
                              Oh, I see getting my posts moved.....the High Hand power lurks here...............!

                              Citi are TOAST!
                              http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7744814.stm
                              Mike
                              Merged the Citi threads. We don't need one a day!
                              Ed.

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