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  • Re: Bullish Information Re. Mark Hulbert in Barron's online 8/7/07

    A Contrarian Should Be Bullish on Stocks http://online.barrons.com/article/SB...ne_mutual_fund [subscription required]


    Originally posted by Hulbert published on 8/7/07
    THE STOCK-MARKET DECLINE OVER the last couple of weeks, painful as it undeniably has been, is not likely to be the beginning of a major bear market.
    That's not just wishful thinking based on Monday's [8/6/07] impressive rally, in which the Dow Jones Industrial Average soared some 286 points. It is also the conclusion of a contrarian analysis of sentiment among investment newsletter editors.
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    As such, contrarian analysis is especially helpful at times like now, when the question everyone is asking themselves is whether a bear market began on July 19, when the Dow Jones Industrial Average closed above 14,000 (for the first, and so far the only, time).
    Had the average adviser remained stubbornly bullish in the face of the decline since then, for example, contrarians would have had to conclude that July 19 was in fact the top of the bull market.
    But that is not how the typical adviser reacted. Far from sticking to his bullish guns, he almost ran to the exits. That's a bullish sign.
    Consider the latest readings of the Hulbert Stock Newsletter Sentiment Index (HSNSI), which reflects the average recommended stock-market exposure among a subset of short-term market-timing newsletters tracked by the Hulbert Financial Digest. As of Monday night, the HSNSI stood at just 5.4%, which means that, on average, the short-term market-timing newsletters are recommending that their clients risk very little in the stock market, instead allocating some 95% of their equity portfolios to cash.
    Not only is this 5.4% recommended equity exposure level quite low in absolute terms, it also has fallen markedly over the last couple of weeks. On the day the DJIA closed above 14,000, for example, the HSNSI stood at 50.9%. So in a little more than two weeks' time, the editor of the average short-term market-timing newsletter has reduced his recommended equity exposure by more than 45 percentage points.

    On both counts, a contrarian would conclude that the current sentiment picture does not conform to the typical psychological profile of a major market top.
    Contrast how newsletter editors have behaved recently with how they reacted in the few weeks following the March 2000 market top. At the time, of course, no one new that it was the top of the market. But as we now know, the Nasdaq Composite's all-time high occurred on March 10 of that year, while the broad market hit its high two weeks later, on March 24.
    Believe it or not, the average HSNSI level for the month of April 2000 was higher than in March. And, even more incredibly, the average HSNSI level in May was even higher still.
    Now that's stubborn bullishness: The average adviser became even more bullish in the face of the first two months of the worst bear market in decades. That is classic market-top behavior, which is why contrarians were not surprised by what ensued.

    Today, in contrast, we're not seeing anything like the stubborn bullishness that was prevalent then. This does not mean that no individual advisers have remained bullish in the face of the market's pullback; some have. But for every stubbornly bullish adviser there have been more who have built up cash; some, by going short, have aggressively bet their portfolios on a continuation of the market decline.
    Does all of this guarantee that a bear market won't begin? Of course not. Sentiment is not the only thing that makes the market tick. And, in any case, there are no guarantees in this business.
    But sentiment is a powerful determinant of the market's short- and intermediate-term direction. And in this game of probabilities we call investing, it can make a big difference whether the sentiment winds are blowing in or against our sails.
    Think of it this way: The editor of the average market-timing newsletter is more often wrong than right at market turning points. To be bearish right now requires you to bet that this time he will uncharacteristically get it right.
    Hulbert's arguments strike me as rather powerful, especially when contrasting his noted drop in bullishness now, to the persistence of it in 2000.
    Jim 69 y/o

    "...Texans...the lowest form of white man there is." Robert Duvall, as Al Sieber, in "Geronimo." (see "Location" for examples.)

    Dedicated to the idea that all people deserve a chance for a healthy productive life. B&M Gates Fdn.

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    • Re: Bullish Information Re. Mark Hulbert in Barron's online 8/7/07

      Originally posted by Jim Nickerson View Post
      A Contrarian Should Be Bullish on Stocks http://online.barrons.com/article/SB...ne_mutual_fund [subscription required]




      Hulbert's arguments strike me as rather powerful, especially when contrasting his noted drop in bullishness now, to the persistence of it in 2000.
      Hulbert's not one you can easily fade, thanks for posting.



      Still more bull than bear in this chart and it is saying buy not sell.
      "Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one."
      - Charles Mackay

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      • Re: Bullish Information Re. Tom McClellan from Barron's

        http://online.barrons.com/article/market_watch.html

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        Get Ready for Bounces
        McClellan Market Report by McClellan Financial Publications
        P.O. Box 39779, Lakewood, Wash. 98496
        Aug. 7: The 20-week cycle bottom which was supposed to arrive in early August has done so right on schedule....Back at the March '07 bottom, we recall everyone was worried about a liquidity crisis. The world survived that one, and will survive this one, too. The cycle promises us a robust bounce up out of this low over the next few weeks, with minor bottoms due Aug. 20 to 21 and Aug. 30 serving as [speed] bumps.
        -- Tom McClellan
        Above is all that was in the Barron's blurb. McClellan is the son of the Tom McClellan responsible for the McClelllan Oscillator and Summation Index.

        I put in this and the post above regarding Mark Hulbert's assessment, to at least broach the issue of bullishness now in the face of what I perceive as major bearishness on iTulip for the past 7-10 days--more bearish than usual on a usually bearish site.

        Looking at a lot of technical indicators, they are at levels seen at past bottoms in the last 4 years, though as I read them Investors Intelligence, AAII sentiment indicators have not become all that bearish, but in saying that, II is more bearish now, slightly, than it was at the last bottom in March 2007, but not nearly as bearish as it became last summer.
        Last edited by Jim Nickerson; August 11, 2007, 01:11 PM.
        Jim 69 y/o

        "...Texans...the lowest form of white man there is." Robert Duvall, as Al Sieber, in "Geronimo." (see "Location" for examples.)

        Dedicated to the idea that all people deserve a chance for a healthy productive life. B&M Gates Fdn.

        Good judgement comes from experience; experience comes from bad judgement. Unknown.

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        • Re: Bullish Information Re. Short Term Bullish

          http://www.safehaven.com/article-8159.htm

          Mike Burk Technical Market Report 8/11/07

          This guy has more data and looks at it in more ways over longer periods than anyone else I have run across on the web.

          This week's note has a lot of charts, and the chart that makes the most sense to me is the last one which measures OTC 10 day average of the absolute value of the percentage change. What I get from the chart is that spikes in the just mentioned variable fit nicely with lows in the Nasdaq Index.

          My inclination (bet) is that we are going to see some rallying over the next few weeks.
          Last edited by Jim Nickerson; August 13, 2007, 05:16 PM.
          Jim 69 y/o

          "...Texans...the lowest form of white man there is." Robert Duvall, as Al Sieber, in "Geronimo." (see "Location" for examples.)

          Dedicated to the idea that all people deserve a chance for a healthy productive life. B&M Gates Fdn.

          Good judgement comes from experience; experience comes from bad judgement. Unknown.

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          • Re: Bullish Information Re. The Chartist

            http://www.thechartist.com/ Subscript required.
            Originally posted by The Chartist
            Thursday, August 16, 2007Stocks staged a dramatic comeback from what appeared to be another session of heavy losses. At its worst levels, the Dow was down more than 340 points, but by the close had cut its losses to only 15.69 points. On an intra-day basis, it was down 10.7% from its all-time high of 14,021.95 reached in July. One of the more noteworthy aspects of today's trading was the outperformance of the Russell 2000. The small-cap gauge finished up 2.3%. At its intra-day lows it was down 14% from its July high and unlike the Dow or S&P 500 it had already undercut its March low. It closed at 768 which is only 8 points above that key support level. One reason for the sharp reversal was the hope of a .50 point rate cut by the Fed in September. Countrywide Financial, the largest U.S. mortgage lender, was down 27% at one point today on bankruptcy rumors. It rallied to only down 4.74% on the rate cut news. We remain in the bullish camp...
            So not everybody is bearish.
            Jim 69 y/o

            "...Texans...the lowest form of white man there is." Robert Duvall, as Al Sieber, in "Geronimo." (see "Location" for examples.)

            Dedicated to the idea that all people deserve a chance for a healthy productive life. B&M Gates Fdn.

            Good judgement comes from experience; experience comes from bad judgement. Unknown.

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            • Re: Bullish Information Re. Bullish hammers and doji?

              Whatever a doji is. http://www.investopedia.com/terms/d/doji.asp

              Martin Weinberg http://www.financialsense.com/Market/wrapup.htm

              Looks at long term interest rates having bottomed and suggests they will go up--this would be consistent with future increased inflation.

              Originally posted by WEINBERG
              What is a hammer? It is when a market or stock opens and closes in a narrow range, after a downtrend. There is a “tail” representing trading much throughout a lower range during the day. The longer the “tail,” the wider (and lower) the range of trading throughout the day. Higher volume (as shown in the Dow Jones Industrials), tends to confirm the bullish nature of a hammer. The bullish nature of the hammer such as the ones in the Dow and emerging market ETF would need to be confirmed. In the case of the Dow, confirmation would be a couple of ticks above the 200-day moving average.

              Charts shown today with bullish hammers and increased volume in SML, $TRAN, EEM, DJI.

              Also comments on HUI, $GOLD, BRK/A.
              Jim 69 y/o

              "...Texans...the lowest form of white man there is." Robert Duvall, as Al Sieber, in "Geronimo." (see "Location" for examples.)

              Dedicated to the idea that all people deserve a chance for a healthy productive life. B&M Gates Fdn.

              Good judgement comes from experience; experience comes from bad judgement. Unknown.

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              • Re: Bullish Information Re. Barton Biggs

                Barton is getting to be an old fart, and on Bloomberg TV 9 min video, he thinks there will be a 3-5% SPX and 10% emerging market rally and then maybe a retest of these lows. He seems pissed off throughout the interview to have to be talking back to the talking heads.

                Not worth a lot of time to watch in my opinion, but this link hopefully will take you there is you wish.

                http://www.bloomberg.com/avp/avp.htm...vWxyFI6deM.asf
                Jim 69 y/o

                "...Texans...the lowest form of white man there is." Robert Duvall, as Al Sieber, in "Geronimo." (see "Location" for examples.)

                Dedicated to the idea that all people deserve a chance for a healthy productive life. B&M Gates Fdn.

                Good judgement comes from experience; experience comes from bad judgement. Unknown.

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                • Re: Bullish Information Re. Nickerson on the Market.

                  This is definitely a for-what-it's-worth contribution. I have not yet checked the sites I usually read for anything seemingly interesting that might represent bullishness.

                  Based on my own data collection, today 8/17/07 the NYSE had a 90% up day in both volume and points. Last summer during the decline there were three similar 90% up days following the low of the NYSE on 6/13/06. I was so convinced there would be a decline into the fall because of it being the 2nd year of the presidential cycle, that I totally rejected the +90% buy signal, and there were three of them from the low mentioned above until 7/19/07--just 19 market days. These +90% up days following on 90% down days constitute a buy signal if one wishes to acknowledge Paul Desmond's research on this indicator. If I recall, Desmond in Barron's rejected the validity of these buy signals because they followed so closely on several 90% down days. I believe he had some guideline that generally the 90% up days are good when about 30 days elapse from the previous 90% down day. Well, it turned out Desmond was very wrong, and I certainly was because of a preconceived notion of what I thought the markets should do.

                  I've noted somewhere here in the last couple of days, that the equity pull/call ratio had risen above 1.0 on 8/14,15,16. This is uncommon to rise that high, much less 3 days in a row. I personally interpret this datum to be a bullish sign on a contrary basis. I take it to denote significantly more fear than is normal for those trading equity options. Almost always this indicator shows a preponderance of bullishness, i.e. more calls than puts, thus a number below 1.0.

                  Based solely on these two indicators, I think the equity markets are in for a bullish run.

                  I welcome any dissents.
                  Last edited by Jim Nickerson; August 17, 2007, 08:45 PM.
                  Jim 69 y/o

                  "...Texans...the lowest form of white man there is." Robert Duvall, as Al Sieber, in "Geronimo." (see "Location" for examples.)

                  Dedicated to the idea that all people deserve a chance for a healthy productive life. B&M Gates Fdn.

                  Good judgement comes from experience; experience comes from bad judgement. Unknown.

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                  • Re: Bullish Information Re. Another Nickerson observation.

                    I probably have read iTulip everyday for the last 16 months, and based on "feel" and perhaps poor recollection, I would say in the past week to 10 days there has never been as much bearishness on the site as in this time.

                    With regard to MM funds there might have been some panic even when there has been no serious evidence of money market funds being in trouble so far.

                    Some, seemingly young, guys have been worrying they have missed the Ka, and what to do about the Poom? I have "felt" a certain amount of serious worry.

                    I think there has been a peak--so far--here in bearishness.
                    Jim 69 y/o

                    "...Texans...the lowest form of white man there is." Robert Duvall, as Al Sieber, in "Geronimo." (see "Location" for examples.)

                    Dedicated to the idea that all people deserve a chance for a healthy productive life. B&M Gates Fdn.

                    Good judgement comes from experience; experience comes from bad judgement. Unknown.

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                    • Re: Bullish Information Re. Another Nickerson observation.

                      Originally posted by Jim Nickerson View Post
                      I probably have read iTulip everyday for the last 16 months, and based on "feel" and perhaps poor recollection, I would say in the past week to 10 days there has never been as much bearishness on the site as in this time.

                      With regard to MM funds there might have been some panic even when there has been no serious evidence of money market funds being in trouble so far.

                      Some, seemingly young, guys have been worrying they have missed the Ka, and what to do about the Poom? I have "felt" a certain amount of serious worry.

                      I think there has been a peak--so far--here in bearishness.
                      I've been on vacation this week (what a week to miss), and after frantically skimming through all the unread threads to try to catch up, I'd say you're right. Particularly bemusing to me was all the concern about the safety of money market accounts? I thought we weren't doomers? :confused: Of course, it's difficult to be bullish when my taxable investment account is negative 20%... :eek:

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                      • Re: Bullish Information Re. Another Nickerson observation.

                        Originally posted by zoog View Post
                        I've been on vacation this week (what a week to miss), and after frantically skimming through all the unread threads to try to catch up, I'd say you're right. Particularly bemusing to me was all the concern about the safety of money market accounts? I thought we weren't doomers? :confused: Of course, it's difficult to be bullish when my taxable investment account is negative 20%... :eek:

                        That's what I take to be bullish--such a story of woe, and you have my sympathy for how I imagine you feel.

                        "If you can keep you head when all about you are losing theirs."
                        Jim 69 y/o

                        "...Texans...the lowest form of white man there is." Robert Duvall, as Al Sieber, in "Geronimo." (see "Location" for examples.)

                        Dedicated to the idea that all people deserve a chance for a healthy productive life. B&M Gates Fdn.

                        Good judgement comes from experience; experience comes from bad judgement. Unknown.

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                        • Re: Bullish Information Re. Another Nickerson observation.

                          Eh, -20% I can handle. I started my 401k not long before the tech bubble peak and then watched it flounder for the next two or three years before recovering even above zero. I learned that dollar-cost-averaging can take a long time to bear fruit.

                          It's looking ahead and imagining a steady general downward grind followed by, apparently, an 1987-style plunge that makes me wince. So I'm certainly bearish like most others here seem to be currently.

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                          • Re: Bullish Information Re. Another Nickerson observation.

                            Originally posted by Jim Nickerson View Post
                            I probably have read iTulip everyday for the last 16 months, and based on "feel" and perhaps poor recollection, I would say in the past week to 10 days there has never been as much bearishness on the site as in this time.

                            With regard to MM funds there might have been some panic even when there has been no serious evidence of money market funds being in trouble so far.

                            Some, seemingly young, guys have been worrying they have missed the Ka, and what to do about the Poom? I have "felt" a certain amount of serious worry.

                            I think there has been a peak--so far--here in bearishness.
                            I think you hit the nail here. I have been studying market/investors emotions very closely for several months now, and the amount of bearishness is quite severe. One of the best tools is http://www.market-harmonics.com/free...nt/putcall.htm

                            Especially if you look up Rydex Nova/Ursa ratio, you will see that the sentiment is now as negative as on 9/11 or in 2000! There is a lot of money that can be made on short term recovery. For example I purchased FXI yesterday in early PM and made 10% on that bet. If you purchased GDX you would be up 6% today. However, after saying this, I have to admit that I am bearish longer term. We will likely enter a trading range and possible more selling.

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                            • Re: Bullish Information Re. Another Nickerson observation.

                              Originally posted by zoog View Post
                              Eh, -20% I can handle. I started my 401k not long before the tech bubble peak and then watched it flounder for the next two or three years before recovering even above zero. I learned that dollar-cost-averaging can take a long time to bear fruit.

                              It's looking ahead and imagining a steady general downward grind followed by, apparently, an 1987-style plunge that makes me wince. So I'm certainly bearish like most others here seem to be currently.
                              So that there is no obfuscation in how I am seeing the short term which I think is a month to several months, I am very bullish that the equity markets are setup to move higher. Such a move does not negate anything EJ has put forward recently about a lot of shit yet to be hitting the fan. I in no way personally discount anything he says--at least that I can think of. Perhaps being bullish right now is "playing in front of the steam-roller," he would have to address that.

                              To me the signals I pointed out have been good bullish signals heretofore, but that does not dictate that they will work this time.

                              I got a bit "whacked" over the last 2-3 weeks, i.e. I lost some money, but I think now I likely will get it back in the next few weeks. That's my bet.

                              People who are frightened about the future based on EJ's comments or any other commentary and are down for these past several weeks hopefully will have an opportunity to sell into strength over the near weeks to several months possibly if they wish to lighten up and prepare for something worse.
                              Jim 69 y/o

                              "...Texans...the lowest form of white man there is." Robert Duvall, as Al Sieber, in "Geronimo." (see "Location" for examples.)

                              Dedicated to the idea that all people deserve a chance for a healthy productive life. B&M Gates Fdn.

                              Good judgement comes from experience; experience comes from bad judgement. Unknown.

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                              • Re: Bullish Information Re. Another Nickerson observation.

                                Originally posted by friendly_jacek View Post
                                I think you hit the nail here. I have been studying market/investors emotions very closely for several months now, and the amount of bearishness is quite severe. One of the best tools is http://www.market-harmonics.com/free...nt/putcall.htm

                                Especially if you look up Rydex Nova/Ursa ratio, you will see that the sentiment is now as negative as on 9/11 or in 2000! There is a lot of money that can be made on short term recovery. For example I purchased FXI yesterday in early PM and made 10% on that bet. If you purchased GDX you would be up 6% today. However, after saying this, I have to admit that I am bearish longer term. We will likely enter a trading range and possible more selling.
                                It will remain to be seen if any nails have been hit on the head.

                                Your link is a decent link that I'll add to my bookmarks. If one looks at the Put/Call Volume Ratio -Equities chart, which I take to be at least saying it is looking at the same put/call data that I might be looking at, the numbers are significantly different from what I wrote. It does not show puts being greater than calls, though it does show a rise in the number of puts. I will stand by my statements based on my data that are acquired from http://www.cboe.com/data/mktstat.aspx.
                                Jim 69 y/o

                                "...Texans...the lowest form of white man there is." Robert Duvall, as Al Sieber, in "Geronimo." (see "Location" for examples.)

                                Dedicated to the idea that all people deserve a chance for a healthy productive life. B&M Gates Fdn.

                                Good judgement comes from experience; experience comes from bad judgement. Unknown.

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