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  • Ben Stein is still buying!

    Silly Ben.

    http://finance.yahoo.com/expert/article/yourlife/115733


    So, I assumed, and wrote, things would be fine.

    Where I missed the boat was not realizing how large were the CDS based on the junk mortgage bonds. They were not only large, but absolutely staggeringly large. Where the junk mortgage bonds were in the hundreds of billions, the CDS were in the tens of TRILLIONS. If the sellers of the CDS had to pay off in large part, the liability greatly exceeded the total bank capital in the United States and maybe in the world. That is, the derivatives based upon the junk mortgage bonds could be - and were - not in any way limited to the size of the mortgage bonds themselves, and this I did not know until a few months ago.


    It is this liability that swamped the banks, investment banks, and insurers. It is the CDS liability that broke AIG and Lehman.

    When I realized the extent of this problem, I wrongly thought the federal government would step in and in some way rescue everyone who had sold CDS. They did, except they ‘forgot' to rescue Lehman. Lehman was so large that when it failed, it was like a torpedo striking an ocean liner below the water line. A gaping hole was left in the whole world finance system.
    Bankers panicked. If Lehman could fail, then anyone could fail. In that case, the banks that were still solvent figured they had better hoard their assets and stop making loans. This led to the ongoing credit freeze. This led to a rapidly gathering economic downturn and a drastic fall in prices of all kinds of securities, real estate and commodities. It also led to a severe credit squeeze on hedge funds, which saw credit dry up and their asset prices fall suddenly, and were forced to sell stocks and other assets on a dramatic scale, leading to still greater falls in securities prices, and the worldwide panic that it still unfolding.


    In turn, this led to huge infusions of liquidity into the banks of the world, the semi-nationalization of the banks of the United States and of many other nations to shore them up, thaw credit, and bolster world markets and economies. These were drastic steps for drastic times, all generated by derivatives. Warren Buffett had warned us against them, and he was dead right, as always.


    Now, these acts should help. But it might not do the job all by itself. Major lender solvency issues remain. If housing prices keep falling, more mortgage bonds will default and the liability attached to the credit default swaps based upon them will still be in the trillions or even tens of trillions.
    I might well be too alarmist here, but I think the only rational possibility is for the federal government or the New York State government (because most of the CDS were entered into in New York) to simply annul the credit default swaps as void as being against public policy. After all, there was no insurable interest in most cases, which tends to void insurance contracts, which is what a CDS is.


    Once that happens, the banks can breathe freely again, take risks, and the economy can revive. Or, perhaps the housing market will stabilize, mortgage based bonds will rally, and the CDS will be out of the money and will not be a threat to the lenders. But something has got to happen to defuse these deadly derivatives.

    It's those naughty CDS's, is all. The gubmint should stamp them out and that will take care of things.

  • #2
    Re: Ben Stein is still buying!

    I didn't hear a single mention of greed...

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    • #3
      Re: Ben Stein is still buying!

      I like this part:

      When I realized the extent of this problem, I wrongly thought the federal government would step in and in some way rescue everyone who had sold CDS. They did, except they ‘forgot' to rescue Lehman.

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      • #4
        Re: Ben Stein is still buying!

        Anything Ben Stein says or writes, he's probably doing and/or thinking the opposite.

        He's just that kind of guy.

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        • #5
          Re: Ben Stein is still buying!

          You give too much credit to a t--d with an eyepiece on it. You need to say smart things to be a contraindicator...

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          • #6
            Re: Ben Stein is still buying!

            Now Ben Stein is desparately pleading for massive reflation:

            http://finance.yahoo.com/expert/article/yourlife/122582

            "That means there is virtually — for all practical purposes -no limit to how stimulative fiscal and monetary policy can and should be. The dangers of inflation at this point are extremely modest. There is a worldwide commodities debacle. There is almost no new corporate financing. Even mighty China is slowing hour by hour. Inflation is not a present danger.
            In this situation, the governments that care about their citizens should and must have extremely expansive policies. That would include running very large deficits — which we are doing, not even mentioning tax hikes until the situation is stabilized, and possibly cutting taxes as a temporary measure. Public works projects, tax rebates, even to people who paid no taxes, extensions of unemployment insurance payments — all of these are necessary. Bailing out the big auto companies, offering loan guarantees to encourage banks to lend, making sure lending facilities are in place for credit card issuers - all of these should be done and immediately."

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            • #7
              Re: Ben Stein is still buying!

              F..k me!

              OK the itulip auto says i need to say more to post....but I can't think of anything more!

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              • #8
                Re: Ben Stein is still buying!

                Ben Stein august 2007: "credit crisis is way overblown... its a buying time if Ive ever seen one"

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                • #9
                  Re: Ben Stein is still buying!

                  Great post tsetse
                  My question is ...how the f... do any of these morons (Schiff excepted and at least he is worth the argument) keep their jobs...they are still trotted out as the experts on everybloodything!!!

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                  • #10
                    Re: Ben Stein is still buying!

                    Originally posted by The Outback Oracle View Post
                    Great post tsetse
                    My question is ...how the f... do any of these morons (Schiff excepted and at least he is worth the argument) keep their jobs...they are still trotted out as the experts on everybloodything!!!
                    agreed, even worse, they are never taken up on what they said.

                    In this video Art Laffer says Peter Schiff is completely wrong about a real estate collapse coming in 2007 and 2008 and that the fundamentals have never been better. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfascZSTU4o

                    Here Bill Maher challenges on the "bet" he made with peter schiff on the economy collapses, and this was his response:




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                    • #11
                      Re: Ben Stein is still buying!

                      Cheesh...what a hypocrite!!! Now he is trying to make money out of it pretending he knows what he is talking about.
                      Hell, boom times might be ahead!

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